Hetalia Discussion Thread

[Prince Raivis]

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And to all of the canon talk, despite how biased and homophobic it sounds, I think it would be best if the only pairings in the show that were canon would be straight. Like Austria and Hungary...

Any particular reason for that? Because I fail to see how the genders of said pairings matter.

[Y0UR a DlKE]

Prince Raivis

Probably the largest contributor to Hetalia's horrid reputation is all of the younger yaoi fangirls that take all of the little hints in the series a little too seriously.

Shows that feature a lot more straight pairings tend to get a lot of praise. But that's just my own biased opinion. I think the yaoi/BL works should be up to the fanbase. Not to the original producers.

Plus, even if somebody does avoid the fanbase and watches the anime, those hints are still in there.

But either way, those annoying fans are still going to be there.

[Misuki Marishima]

Prince Raivis

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And to all of the canon talk, despite how biased and homophobic it sounds, I think it would be best if the only pairings in the show that were canon would be straight. Like Austria and Hungary...

Any particular reason for that? Because I fail to see how the genders of said pairings matter.

I entirely disagree with the gender bit. I think if there are any pairings at all, it would have to be due to merged territories like Austria-Hungary...

That doesn't mean I consider Germany and Austria's merger a "marriage" or GDR!Gilbert and Ludwig a marriage either...

I don't know, for me this whole "pairing" business is complicated whether you go by historical relations or otherwise.

[Jirachisu]

I really love chibitalia redface But The episodes are short.And also the rest cat_redface

[Y0UR a DlKE]

Jirachisu

I loved seeing the nations as children. Especially Romano and England.

Anybody else remember the episode where left little America alone in his house and when he came back America was a young man.

All I gotta say is that the testosterone's strong in this one. -shot-

[Prince Raivis]

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Prince Raivis

Probably the largest contributor to Hetalia's horrid reputation is all of the younger yaoi fangirls that take all of the little hints in the series a little too seriously.

Shows that feature a lot more straight pairings tend to get a lot of praise. But that's just my own biased opinion. I think the yaoi/BL works should be up to the fanbase. Not to the original producers.

Plus, even if somebody does avoid the fanbase and watches the anime, those hints are still in there.

But either way, those annoying fans are still going to be there.

The thing is... gay pairings should be treated no differently that straight ones. Equality and all that. What you are saying is in fact homophobic.
Homosexuals deserve as much canon representation as anyone.
"I think the yaoi/BL works should be up to the fanbase." Say it with me: homosexual. Yaoi is porn. What we're talking about here is not. And you know, in most series it is left to the fans. And that is completely unfair. It's not fair for anyone who isn't straight to have to make up their own pairings, or cling to little hints of possible feelings, to be able to feel like there are characters like them. To feel like there's not something wrong with them because almost everyone they see in the media is straight. It is getting better but it has a long way to go, and saying things like that only pushes it backwards.
Homosexuality is NO DIFFERENT than heterosexuality. It is not sinful, it is not dirty, it is not R-rated. Having two men or two women in love does not make a show any less "family friendly". And if "those fans" are going to be there anyway, what difference does it make? If it won't change it, then why bother cutting out valid pairings because some shitheads find it "offensive"? I am against any canon pairings in Hetalia, but if there are going to be, there should be at least three. A man and a woman, two men, and two women.

In short: What you said was in fact homophobic and I will not tolerate it in my thread. Understood?

[Prince Raivis]

ALSO: That discussion is to be dropped right now, I will not hear anything else about it in this thread, from anyone.

[Doopydoops]

Prince Raivis

ALSO: That discussion is to be dropped right now, I will not hear anything else about it in this thread, from anyone.

Thank you, my head hurts. Honestly, I've never liked pairings.

[Y0UR a DlKE]

Prince Raivis

I'm not saying I'm homophobic.

I support equal rights fully. But I don't shove it down people's throats. That's how a lot of these fangirls treat people outside of the fandom, making people get into it, forcing their guy friends to dress up as the male characters. It makes a lot of people feel uncomfortable. And even for me it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable with all of these pairings becoming 'canon' because a lot of fangirls take those hints and take them too seriously.

Even as a fan of many pairings in the series, I wouldn't want them to be canon like a lot of the other active posters in this thread. Not only is it fuel for these ADHD fans but it makes Hetalia look bad. It's supposed to be a historic comedy. Not a BL romance series. I have nothing against yaoi/BL fanwork made by any fans of the series. But it makes me feel that the producers are only motivating them to do that.

But back to the straight pairing deal, I've never, never seen anybody force any straight pairings into anybody's throat from Hetalia. It just seems like something only the 'hipster' part of the fanbase does.

In a nutshell, I was just stating my opinion. I'm not homophobic but I know people who are that watch Hetalia. And I give them props for having to deal with that fanbase. It just breaks my heart to see that Hetalia appears that it's starting to move to a more dramatic series. (Not that it wasn't already. But you all catch my drift.)

Not to be a rebel, but you can't expect every Hetalia fan being all for homosexuality. Even anybody who posts on this thread. As much as I love Hetalia in all of its glory, I have my reasons that it could be better canon-wise.

[Y0UR a DlKE]

Otombliss

At least I'm not the only one who thinks that. emotion_awesome

I will never understand the logic of those fans. I was thinking "How do you consider somebody choking another person with a scarf as love? That sounds like a cruel and painful death to me."

[Prince Raivis]

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Prince Raivis

I'm not saying I'm homophobic.

I support equal rights fully. But I don't shove it down people's throats. That's how a lot of these fangirls treat people outside of the fandom, making people get into it, forcing their guy friends to dress up as the male characters. It makes a lot of people feel uncomfortable. And even for me it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable with all of these pairings becoming 'canon' because a lot of fangirls take those hints and take them too seriously.

Even as a fan of many pairings in the series, I wouldn't want them to be canon like a lot of the other active posters in this thread. Not only is it fuel for these ADHD fans but it makes Hetalia look bad. It's supposed to be a historic comedy. Not a BL romance series. I have nothing against yaoi/BL fanwork made by any fans of the series. But it makes me feel that the producers are only motivating them to do that.

But back to the straight pairing deal, I've never, never seen anybody force any straight pairings into anybody's throat from Hetalia. It just seems like something only the 'hipster' part of the fanbase does.

In a nutshell, I was just stating my opinion. I'm not homophobic but I know people who are that watch Hetalia. And I give them props for having to deal with that fanbase. It just breaks my heart to see that Hetalia appears that it's starting to move to a more dramatic series. (Not that it wasn't already. But you all catch my drift.)

Not to be a rebel, but you can't expect every Hetalia fan being all for homosexuality. Even anybody who posts on this thread. As much as I love Hetalia in all of its glory, I have my reasons that it could be better canon-wise.

So, you're saying there should only be straight pairings as, what, a way to punish the fandom? If it's really because it's a historical comedy and not a romance then, as I've been saying, there shouldn't be canon pairings at all. But to say there should only be straight pairings is, in fact, homophobic, whether you think it is or not. You don't have to hold a picket sign and throw around slurs to be homophobic.
I don't expect everyone to be "all for" it because I know better, but I also don't support avoiding it to make those people comfortable. If insisting upon equal representation is shoving it down people's throats, fine, I'll do just that, and consider it a good thing. I will not defend oppressors.
I do agree that the amount it has turned into a "boy love" thing is bad, but that can really be linked to the uneven distribution of sexes among the characters. There should be more female characters, with more screen time. Simply saying "No gay pairings" accomplishes nothing but dealing a blow to equal representation in the media.
Maybe if there were more canon gay pairings in general, not Hetalia, people would stop frantically grabbing at and obsessing over any hint of gayness in everything. Have you seen fandoms like Sherlock, Teen Wolf, Merlin? Do you know why people grasp desperately at any hint of gayness? Count the canon gay pairings. You can do it on one hand. You might not even have to lift any fingers. The reason for this is because there are hardly ANY gay characters in the media, and most of the ones who exist are stereotypes, and their entire character revolves around them being gay. MAYBE people would stop obsessing over it if it was more commonplace.

So much for dropping the topic.

[Knight of Britannia]

....SO episode three coming out this week! Who's excited? biggrin

... sweatdrop

[Prince Raivis]

Knight of Britannia

....SO episode three coming out this week! Who's excited? biggrin

... sweatdrop

Sorry for the mess -.-
And I AM! I'm loving this, really. Germany's a studmuffin, we're getting some new characters to the anime (Romania), I am excited to see what all we get in this season in general.

[Misuki Marishima]

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Jirachisu

I loved seeing the nations as children. Especially Romano and England.

Anybody else remember the episode where left little America alone in his house and when he came back America was a young man.

All I gotta say is that the testosterone's strong in this one. -shot-

I like to see the chibi nations too. Chibi France was so cute! *squee* And the comics about little Austria and Switzerland were just precious. I think the only ones I like more than those are the present day comics about Switzerland and Liechtenstein. Theirs was the first series of anime episodes I fell in love with, as far as an ongoing continuation.

Then of course, I read Lithuania's Outsourcing and we all know what happened there.

(It became my favorite "story" comic of all time, and made me hope they animate it someday.)

[PassMeTheJizzTissues]

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America x Belarus.

Let's be friends, even though my secret otp is America x Fem! Rus

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Am I the only one who is desperate for a Nyotalia episode?

UM NO I AM DESPERATE FOR ONE TOO HOLY ********
I MEAN IF NEKOTALIA WAS IN HETALIA THEN WHY CANT NYOTALIA BE
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