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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:13 pm


I am carrying this over from Kiri CB to say some things that I feel need to be said. Gideon Commando has told me that he would rather not have me post this in Kiri CB, thus I will post it here.

For context, Hademaru has proposed several changes for Kirigakure. Some of these were good recommendations, others were things that had already been done, but in his absence he had missed them. The last portion however, was a rant on the current state of the approvals forum, where Hademaru compared those of us doing approvals to parasites and viruses.

Hademaru
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At this point I can really care less if you view anything else I've ever made. I honestly don't think you should be grading anyone's stuff seeing as how none of your stuff has made it through approval and your the one approving it. That means you should know and follow all of the rules down to the "T". But you got mad when no one would approve your jutsu and through a fit. Now in all honesty NO ONE seems to think that you are helping. How about this DON'T COMMENT ON ANYTHING ELSE THAT I POST AND I WILL DO THE SAME FOR YOU. GOT IT!


Nothing I've submitted has been approved?

Like my updates to this villages jutsu?
Or changes to system rules?
Or item creation?
Or summons?
Or what about jutsu?
Or personal jutsu?
Or even Clans?

You need to stop this Hademaru. You posted a list of "recommendations" some of which were helpful, some of which are things that have already been done, and due to you only being on Gaia a few months out of the year, you have not noticed them, and the rest of it was just a rant. A rant with nothing constructive contained within it. If you are going to criticize something, offer a solution. I personally think that dealing with problems individually is more effective than posting everything at once, because people often overlook things when you post them en masse, but if you think otherwise, you are perfectly entitled to your opinion, and maybe, when you cool down a bit, if you want to go stop by and try to add input on peoples approvals, rather than just complaining about the way that other people do it, you may start something up and we will have a wave of improvement throughout the approvals forum. Or, people will keep doing it the way they are now.
And I am not attacking anyone. I state facts. Nobody can deny that. I harped on Qyps posting activity, thats a fact, Qyp rarely post in character. It was addressed and suddenly Qyp is posting more in character. I tried to get Amegakure started up, and Rin didn't want that happening, but did I ever state anything that wasn't true? She is keeping it as an NPC village and letting whoever wants to use it come into the village despite the fact other people want to join that village. Thus the jutsu of that village are going to waste. And yeah, I got ticked, but that is because I like Amegakure, and I had an idea for it, and idea that could still work, but I am trying to let the air cool a bit before presenting it. Even Kouri agreed that allowing Proto to circumnavigate the guilds rules was a mistake and reflects bad on the guild, and namely her because Proto slapped her name on it. The clan has 25 jutsu, of which almost none are cannon, and do things such as ignore enemy attacks, raise the dead, and heal about 3x more hp than minor chakra heal for about 1/10th of the cp cost. Facts.
I state facts because when I do, it draws attention to problems. Problems that I hope will be corrected, because I care about this guild and do not enjoy watching it fall apart.
I'm not a crew member and have basically been told that no matter what I do I won't be, yet still I help out around here whenever possible.
So I will fully utilize the best part of not being crew, I get to speak my mind. I don't have to censor myself or sugar coat things, because that is a necessary thing. Just like how I was told that Qyp is crew so that he can be "The Punching Bag" or whatever, I remain a member so that I can reveal all of the ugly truths that exist, but some people don't want to talk about.
That, and the fact that I know d20 better than most people in this guild.

You may get your wish though Hade. With all of the old folks coming back, this guild is losing the fun factor that it once had. Nothing makes it through approvals anymore, and people like you and Proto choose to ignore and argue rather than listen. All I wanted was to keep this guild running smoothly and keep it fun, but it is becoming harder and harder to have fun here. People arguing about rules written in stone, people arguing about rules that don't even exist. The crew doing things behind the scenes and us not seeing any results. Half hearted promises being made. People constantly trolling. Shutting down new members left and right, and outside of Oto and Konoha, It almost seems as if we are encouraging illiteracy in this guild.

I mean, I get that the crew has other things to do that are more important than posting, that has been said, but obviously that isn't the greatest excuse. Nura, Proto, and Ghost crank out literate post every time. Kouri is getting a lot better now that she is more active, and has posted at least 4x the lit requirement on a regular basis, and the few post that I have seen from Rin ( I don't stalk her as much) have been of a good length as well. Why can't the rest measure up? Maybe if we saw some evidence of these projects, we would all be more sympathetic to the matter.

I even talked to Proto a while back about a bunch of updates to the rules, is that what you guys are working on so hard? Why is it taking so long? Need help? Or is it something else?

School has started up and activity has become scarce, that really sucks, people are stressed. The approvals forum has been transformed into some kind of slaughterhouse now, I mean completely banning Intelligence bonuses and frowning on Wisdom and Charisma bonuses? Constantly challenging recommendations with the statement, "What if they want to be a rebel!?" Well if they want to be a rebel they can go shove it, why join the clan if you don't want the bonuses. Restricting things because you think that they areou your clan's specialty when your clan doesn't even have that ability? What are you? The thought Police? If people want to make an idea, they can make it make sense, and its not overpowered, let them have it.

I've gotten all of that off of my chest and I feel better. Thats all I really care about.

And because the internet doesn't convey emotions very well, let me assure you that I am not at all angry. I am perfectly calm, and typing this with passion, not anger.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:34 pm


As a first note, whether he ranted or not does not excuse you from harassing him. Just like your ranting in my chatterbox, the approval forum, etc. does not excuse me from harassing you.

You say "If you are going to critisize something, offer a solution." Using Mini's summons thread currently in the approval forum as an example, you didn't actually propose anything constructive or solution-like until your second to last post, on the second page of the thread... Everything else has been nothing but rude to not just Mini herself, but to Proto and Qyp as well.

You say "I am not attacking anyone, I state facts." From start to end, your "discussion" in my chatterbox was nothing but harassment. It has been proven through out the six or more years that I have been in this guild that when more than three villages are active, the people are spread too thin and whether there is a lot line or not if the newly opened village doesn't fall apart, then another village will because all of their members will move to another village. And to correct you, aside from you wanting to take over the village only a single person, recently, wanted to join Ame. A single person does not make a village.

You say, "I am trying to let the air cool before presenting [the idea]." You're doing one hell of a job letting the air cool, pissing off crew and non crew alike.

You say, "I don't have to censor myself or sugar coat things, because that is a necessary thing." You know why we censor and sugar coat? Because if we don't then people like you will constantly throw fits, because "Oh my goodness, the evil crew are being soooo mean to me!!" Not that you don't constantly complain anyway....

You say, "I know d20 better than most people in the guild." A straight d20 system cannot be plastered to different universes as it is and call it good. Like with d20 Starwars, it has to be altered to fit things like lightsaber function and the force. So, the system has to be altered to fit a Narutoverse. d20, being based on D&D/Pathfinder (which I also play frequently and know the rules of) cannot have the exact rules and mechanics. Due to the universe of Naruto itself, what can work in Naruto might not work in D&D, and what might work in D&D might not work in Naruto.

You say, "people like [Hade] and Proto choose to ignore and argue rather than listen." Hypocritical much?

You say, "All I wanted was to keep this guild running smoothly and keep it fun." Yes, because harassing people in the guild totally keeps things fun and smooth.

... in reference to your comments on stalking crew to see posting activity... I don't know whether to be creeped out or not.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:47 pm


-Please sit on any further comments on this issue for a day before replying further. And I do mean ANY. Thanks!-
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:27 am


Bloody hell K! How can you let a good bout like this start up and not let me in!? I haven't had a good go in ages.

Can't I pick on people just a little? Please?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:13 am


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Bloody hell K! How can you let a good bout like this start up and not let me in!? I haven't had a good go in ages.

Can't I pick on people just a little? Please?


No Harry you cannot pick on Draco. Lmao...xD
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:18 pm


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:40 pm


Well, can anyone give me any reason to stay in this guild? I have no village now, I don't feel like making a new character. I don't want to leave Oto and honestly I don't have any intention of staying without ghost. He is the best Kage I have ever seen. Please give me a reason and perhaps I'll stay.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:48 pm


hedpefan
Well, can anyone give me any reason to stay in this guild? I have no village now, I don't feel like making a new character. I don't want to leave Oto and honestly I don't have any intention of staying without ghost. He is the best Kage I have ever seen. Please give me a reason and perhaps I'll stay.


Well you don't have to start over you could go to one of the other villages and roleplay.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:51 pm


Hademaru
hedpefan
Well, can anyone give me any reason to stay in this guild? I have no village now, I don't feel like making a new character. I don't want to leave Oto and honestly I don't have any intention of staying without ghost. He is the best Kage I have ever seen. Please give me a reason and perhaps I'll stay.


Well you don't have to start over you could go to one of the other villages and roleplay.


With characters that are so immersed in an ongoing plot that it wouldn't make sense if they just left?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:52 pm


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Well, can anyone give me any reason to stay in this guild? I have no village now, I don't feel like making a new character. I don't want to leave Oto and honestly I don't have any intention of staying without ghost. He is the best Kage I have ever seen. Please give me a reason and perhaps I'll stay.


Well you don't have to start over you could go to one of the other villages and roleplay.


With characters that are so immersed in an ongoing plot that it wouldn't make sense if they just left?


I would simply either finish the plot with NPC or change the plot so that you meet up with other ninja or have to go to another village kind of like how Kiri almost went to Konoha. Something like that. If you want I could see if Gid wants to do something with that.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:56 pm


Hademaru
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Hademaru
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Well, can anyone give me any reason to stay in this guild? I have no village now, I don't feel like making a new character. I don't want to leave Oto and honestly I don't have any intention of staying without ghost. He is the best Kage I have ever seen. Please give me a reason and perhaps I'll stay.


Well you don't have to start over you could go to one of the other villages and roleplay.


With characters that are so immersed in an ongoing plot that it wouldn't make sense if they just left?


I would simply either finish the plot with NPC or change the plot so that you meet up with other ninja or have to go to another village kind of like how Kiri almost went to Konoha. Something like that. If you want I could see if Gid wants to do something with that.


We would need Ghost to play the Npc's. Anyway, who's going to grade out missions?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:31 pm


Guild members of The Way of the Ninja. We have just lost a very important crew member. Ghost, the Kage of Oto has to leave because of RL problems. This will mean that Oto will most likely be closed down and the members of Oto will have to scatter to Kono or Kiri. We need to step up as a guild on this one. We are slowly dieing out and I see it everyday. People getting mad, fighting, quitting, etc. If we don't step up as a clan then this guild has the potential of dieing. In order to keep this guild a live we have to make sure all crew are doing their jobs. We need to make sure all normal members are doing what they need to do. This guild is hitting hard times and this will be a challenge that will either benefit us or break us down. Now, let's make this guild the best it can be and keep it alive. For this is, THE WAY OF THE NINJA!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:39 pm


hedpefan
Guild members of The Way of the Ninja. We have just lost a very important crew member. Ghost, the Kage of Oto has to leave because of RL problems. This will mean that Oto will most likely be closed down and the members of Oto will have to scatter to Kono or Kiri. We need to step up as a guild on this one. We are slowly dieing out and I see it everyday. People getting mad, fighting, quitting, etc. If we don't step up as a clan then this guild has the potential of dieing. In order to keep this guild a live we have to make sure all crew are doing their jobs. We need to make sure all normal members are doing what they need to do. This guild is hitting hard times and this will be a challenge that will either benefit us or break us down. Now, let's make this guild the best it can be and keep it alive. For this is, THE WAY OF THE NINJA!!


I'm seconding that, I like this guild but I feel this guild needs more life... I'll back you up brother.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:02 pm


We're not dying out, it's fall activity always drops sue to school. I'd wager to say we're more active then we usually are this time of year.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:13 pm


hedpefan
Guild members of The Way of the Ninja. We have just lost a very important crew member. Ghost, the Kage of Oto has to leave because of RL problems. This will mean that Oto will most likely be closed down and the members of Oto will have to scatter to Kono or Kiri. We need to step up as a guild on this one. We are slowly dieing out and I see it everyday. People getting mad, fighting, quitting, etc. If we don't step up as a clan then this guild has the potential of dieing. In order to keep this guild a live we have to make sure all crew are doing their jobs. We need to make sure all normal members are doing what they need to do. This guild is hitting hard times and this will be a challenge that will either benefit us or break us down. Now, let's make this guild the best it can be and keep it alive. For this is, THE WAY OF THE NINJA!!

Don't freak out... if you need anything done in Oto that requires crew powers, just ask a crew member who is on.
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