Ability Rater and Strategies- Anticipation and Forewarn

Anticipation and Forewarn are...

Amazing	10.0%	[ 1 ]
Good	10.0%	[ 1 ]
OK	30.0%	[ 3 ]
Bad	30.0%	[ 3 ]
Awful	20.0%	[ 2 ]
Total Votes:			[ 10 ]

This poll closed on June 12, 2012.
No longer accepting new votes.

[Blind Red Dragon]

Hey howdy hey its me once again,

I was just PMing about about abilities and would like to get some more opinions from more people and was hoping I could set up a discussion thread on abilities

What I am hoping for is the ability for the group to rate abilities, suggest strategies, who could use it, and even just say what makes the ability work or fail

If you would like to suggest an ability to rate post it and lets see if we can figure out what to talk about next time, I really wanna make it about a week for each ability so we can keep moving on and really concentrate on one ability at a time

and feel free to mention and explain why a pokemons other abilities are better or more useful on the individual pokemon and just to post about why you like this ability or what pokemon you use it on, if I get enough I will happily add which pokemon gets the most use outta the ability


I would like it if everyone when posting about an ability rate it using a number
(1-10)
so that way at the end of the week I can get the average and post it and keep the list of abilities so people can come by and get a quick summary of the ability and the players' rating

[Blind Red Dragon]

Ability of the Week

Anticipation- warns the pokemon when the opponent has a super-effective move or a one hit KO move

Pokemon with this Ability

Regular

Whiscash
Wormadam
Toxicroak

Dream World

Eevee


Forewarn- Informs the pokemon of the strongest move the opponent has
-if in doubles informs of strongest move between both opponents, at random if both have a similar high base attack


Regular

Hypno
Jynx
Musharna


Dream World
None

[Blind Red Dragon]

Past Abilities Ratings

Moxie- Raises attack whenever you KO a pokemon, you're own or opponents
Pages 1-7

Moxie is according to the people...
Amazing [ 17 ]
Good [ 11 ]
OK [ 10 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 2 ]

Sheer Force- Raises the base damage of a move with a secondary effect, by removing the secondary effect, it increases the power by a third
Pages 7-9

Sheer Force is according to the people...
Amazing [ 10 ]
Good [ 6 ]
OK [ 7 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Trace- Copies the opponents ability
Pages 9-10

Amazing [ 7 ]
Good [ 4 ]
OK [ 5 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Flash Fire- when the pokemon is struck by a fire move, it boost the power of its own fire attacks
Pages 10-13

Amazing [ 1 ]
Good [ 11]
OK [ 15]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 0 ]


Arena Trap-The opponent cannot run nor switch. Flying-type Pokémon and Pokémon with the Levitate special ability are unaffected. If this Pokémon switches, the opponent is still trapped for that turn. The opponent may still switch by using Baton Pass.

Shadow Tag-The opponent cannot run nor switch. If this Pokémon switches, the opponent will remain trapped. The opponent may still switch by using Baton Pass.
Pages 13-15

Amazing [ 4 ]
Good [ 4 ]
OK [ 4 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 1 ]


Effect Spore- may inflict the foe with a status problem if they make contact. It has a 30% chance of inducing either Paralysis, Sleep or Poison on the opponent when hit with a move that makes contact.
Pages 15-16

Amazing [ 5 ]
Good [ 6 ]
OK [ 10 ]
Bad [ 2 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Pickpocket- when the opponent touches the opponent, this pokemon will steal the opponent's item
Pages 17-19

Amazing [ 2 ]
Good [ 5 ]
OK [ 7 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Hustle - Increases the pokemons attack by fifty percent, however it lowers teh accuracy by twenty percent
Pages 19-20

Amazing [ 3 ]
Good [ 5 ]
OK [ 9 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 1 ]

Plus - boost the pokemons special attack by fifty percent when paired with a pokemon with the ability plus or minus

Minus- boost the pokemons special attack by fifty percent when paired with a pokemon with the ability plus or minus
Pages 20-23

Amazing [ 6 ]
Good [ 2 ]
OK [ 8 ]
Bad [ 5 ]
Awful [ 4 ]


Weak Armor - whenever a pokemon with this ability is hit with a physical attack, its defense is lowered, but its speed will increase
Pages 23-25

Amazing [ 1 ]
Good [ 1 ]
OK [ 5 ]
Bad [ 4 ]
Awful [ 4 ]

Contrary - Reverses changes in stats, attempting to lower will increase, and vice versa
Pages 25-27

Amazing [ 4 ]
Good [ 3 ]
OK [ 7 ]
Bad [ 2 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Dry Skin - Restores HP when hit by a water attack, the pokemon gains a weakness to fire
Pages 27-29

Amazing [ 2 ]
Good [ 8 ]
OK [ 4 ]
Bad [ 8 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Inner Focus - Prevents the pokemon from flinching
Pages 29-31

Amazing [ 4 ]
Good [ 8 ]
OK [ 6 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Guts - Boost attack by fifty percent when inflicted with a status aliment
Pages 31-33

Amazing [6]
Good [6]
OK [9]
Bad [1]
Awful [0]

Filter - Reduces super-effective damage by 25%

Solid Rock- Reduces super-effective damage by 25%
Pages 33-34

Amazing [ 3 ]
Good [ 1 ]
OK [ 5 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 1 ]

Reckless- Powers up moves with recoil or crash damage by twenty percent
Page 34

Amazing [ 1 ]
Good [ 0 ]
OK [ 1 ]
Bad [ 2 ]
Awful [ 2 ]

No Guard- All moves used by pokemon have a hundred percent accuracy
Pages 34-35

Amazing [ 2 ]
Good [ 1 ]
OK [ 4 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Regenerator- Heals the pokemon by one third of its maximum HP when switched out
Pages 35-38

Amazing [ 10 ]
Good [ 4 ]
OK [ 5 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Mold Breaker- Moves can used regardless of abilities
Pages 38-41

Amazing [ 7 ]
Good [ 6 ]
OK [ 7 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 1 ]


Unburden- Doubles the pokemon's speed when its item is consumed or removed
Pages 41-42

Amazing [ 2 ]
Good [ 3 ]
OK [ 1 ]
Bad [ 3 ]
Awful [ 1 ]

Analytic- boosts the pokemon's attacking power by thirty percent when attacks after the target
Pages 42-44

Amazing [ 1 ]
Good [ 4 ]
OK [ 7 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 1 ]

Pressure- Increases opponents PP usage
Pages 44-46

Amazing [ 2 ]
Good [ 2 ]
OK [ 4 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Magnet Pull- Prevents Steel Pokemon from being able to switch out
Page 46

Amazing [ 1 ]
Good [ 1 ]
OK [ 4 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 1 ]

Intimidate- Lowers the opponents Attack when entering the battle field
Pages 46-47

Amazing [ 5 ]
Good [ 3 ]
OK [ 2 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 1 ]

Justified - Raises attack when struck by a Dark Attack
Pages 47-49

Amazing [ 1 ]
Good [ 8 ]
OK [ 8 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 2 ]

Rivalry- Raises base power when facing something of the same gender
Pages 49-51

Amazing [ 1 ]
Good [ 3 ]
OK [ 5 ]
Bad [ 4 ]
Awful [ 2 ]

Solar Power- Boost Special Attack by 1.5 in the sunlight, but the pokemon loses 1/8 of HP each turn
Pages 51-54

Amazing [ 3 ]
Good [ 2 ]
OK [ 8 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 1 ]

Rough Skin- when the opponent uses a physical attack it takes 1/16 of its max HP

Iron Barb- when the opponent uses a physical attack it takes 1/8 of its max HP
Pages 54-56

Amazing [ 4 ]
Good [ 9 ]
OK [ 2 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 2 ]

Quick Feet- When inflicted with a status aliment the pokemon gets a fifty percent speed boost
Pages 56-58

Amazing [ 2 ]
Good [ 4 ]
OK [ 4 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 1 ]

Thick Fat- Lowers damage from Fire and Ice attacks by fifty percent
Pages 58-59

Amazing [ 3 ]
Good [ 5 ]
OK [ 2 ]
Bad [ 0 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Simple- Doubles the effects of stat lower/ raising moves
Pages 59-60

Amazing [ 1 ]
Good [ 2 ]
OK [ 3 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

Aftermath- Inflicts a quarter of the opponents max HP as damage when Knocked out by a physical attack
Pages 60-61

Amazing [ 3 ]
Good [ 1 ]
OK [ 5 ]
Bad [ 1 ]
Awful [ 0 ]

[Blind Red Dragon]

I am starting with moxie because I feel like its an ability that is overrated

I admit getting stronger as you knock out your opponents is great
but I feel like unless you got a bulky pokemon, or an amazing sweeper you will never get more than one boost in any real fight

I admit when it works its good but I wouldnt rely on it I give it a
5

just because I feel like in some fights youll never even know the pokemon has it cause it wont be able to use it

[Blind Red Dragon]

Did you guys know that moxie and outrage are illegal in some tournaments on a salamence
but personally I would stick to intimidate
the stat drop has randomly saved my salamence from ice shard pokemon on a daily basis

[TheBlackPriest]

Behold...

___________________________




You must not have gotten your a** handed to you by a MoxieDos before.




___________________________

The Power of Winter

[Blind Red Dragon]

TheBlackPriest

Behold...

___________________________




You must not have gotten your a** handed to you by a MoxieDos before.




___________________________

The Power of Winter

not yet I actually havent seen too many gyrados online now that I think about it
truth be told gyrados dont scare me on the whole

huh?
I actually do think that gyrados can benefit cause its biggest weakness is electric which is most often a special attack and losing intimidate wouldnt change that weakness or give it a chance other than the random thunder punch and wild charge which the drop in attack could be nice

I honestly think gyrados and salamence can exploit moxie the most
but the latter I would still rather have intimidate
never actually used a gyrados before

[TheBlackPriest]

Blind Red Dragon

I honestly think gyrados and salamence can exploit moxie the most
but the latter I would still rather have intimidate
never actually used a gyrados before

Scrafty can exploit it rather well, too. Either Bulk-Up or Dragon Dance sets both love all the attack they can get.

Moxie is one of the best abilities in the game for one reason: It gives you a bonus for doing what your Pokemon is supposed to do anyways - beat other Pokemon.
Normally, beating a Pokemon does nothing for your current Pokemon, but getting a free attack boost to make it even more capable of beating whatever gets thrown out against it next? Incredible.

It's all about maximizing your resources. Why waste a moveslot on a stat-boosting move when you have an ability that will do it for you, freeing up a moveslot for more type-coverage?

[TheBlackPriest]

On a side note, I really like the idea of a topic to discuss strategies based on abilities.
It let's us figure out the intricacies of competitive battling, such as resource management and game tempo.

___________________________

Walk this way.

[solomon514]

Um, here is a little something I found out about moxie, It DOES activate when you knock out your own pokemon in triples and doubles.

[Blind Red Dragon]

TheBlackPriest

Blind Red Dragon

I honestly think gyrados and salamence can exploit moxie the most
but the latter I would still rather have intimidate
never actually used a gyrados before

Scrafty can exploit it rather well, too. Either Bulk-Up or Dragon Dance sets both love all the attack they can get.

Moxie is one of the best abilities in the game for one reason: It gives you a bonus for doing what your Pokemon is supposed to do anyways - beat other Pokemon.
Normally, beating a Pokemon does nothing for your current Pokemon, but getting a free attack boost to make it even more capable of beating whatever gets thrown out against it next? Incredible.

It's all about maximizing your resources. Why waste a moveslot on a stat-boosting move when you have an ability that will do it for you, freeing up a moveslot for more type-coverage?

I really like this description and explaination

I admit its a great ability on paper and overall, and dont get the idea IM someone who usually gives stat boosting abilities I'd rather go guns ablazing and just power my way through everything

I was actually thinking how overall I think scrafty is the best pokemon for moxie cause it has the best defenses, and on top of that its unique typing makes it so it only has two weaknesses, so it will be able to take a punch and at least strike back, but it may need a boost to its attack just to start using its ability

however Salamence will more likely get to use this ability and not fear anything cause it is the fastest moxie pokemon

I mean it really is a kewl ability but you have to admit if the pokemon is too slow or has bad defenses it will have trouble getting more than one moxie boost
I know its good its arguable one of the greatest ideas for an ability but in a number of fights itll get used for some of its owners
ya know

I dont wanna argue good or bad, cause I admit its good I just think the pokemon that get it need improvement or a good stat boost to really exploit it

[TheBlackPriest]

Blind Red Dragon

I really like this description and explaination

I admit its a great ability on paper and overall, and dont get the idea IM someone who usually gives stat boosting abilities I'd rather go guns ablazing and just power my way through everything

I was actually thinking how overall I think scrafty is the best pokemon for moxie cause it has the best defenses, and on top of that its unique typing makes it so it only has two weaknesses, so it will be able to take a punch and at least strike back, but it may need a boost to its attack just to start using its ability

however Salamence will more likely get to use this ability and not fear anything cause it is the fastest moxie pokemon

I mean it really is a kewl ability but you have to admit if the pokemon is too slow or has bad defenses it will have trouble getting more than one moxie boost
I know its good its arguable one of the greatest ideas for an ability but in a number of fights itll get used for some of its owners
ya know

I dont wanna argue good or bad, cause I admit its good I just think the pokemon that get it need improvement or a good stat boost to really exploit it

Oh, I hope I'm not coming across as argumentative sad

I do see your point about speed and bulk, though.
The only way I could see to remedy that would be to build your team around that weakness.
An Agility-Passer would help the frail Moxie users to sweep. Pokemon like Venomoth with Sleep Powder, Gorebyss w/ Shell Smash and White Herb, and Jolteon are my favorites for passing speed boosts, but you could use Ninjask too if you like that strategy.

[x-Dancing_Water-x]

I like the idea of this thread and Moxie. I'm not a competitive battler, but I do like discussing strategies. I've never used Moxie before, truth be told. (My Krookodile has Intimidate instead) But it sounds pretty badass. I liked the possibility of Moxie + Outrage, but that got banned. It sounds broken. I'm kind of rambling, aren't I? XD;;

[Blind Red Dragon]

TheBlackPriest

On a side note, I really like the idea of a topic to discuss strategies based on abilities.
It let's us figure out the intricacies of competitive battling, such as resource management and game tempo.

___________________________

Walk this way.

thank you thats why I wanted to started this kinda thread I just wanna talk strategies and ideas for these abilities plus every so often someone comes out with a strategy nobody thought of

but sometimes ya just gotta talk about something and itll come out as things go along ya know

[Blind Red Dragon]

TheBlackPriest

Blind Red Dragon

I really like this description and explaination

I admit its a great ability on paper and overall, and dont get the idea IM someone who usually gives stat boosting abilities I'd rather go guns ablazing and just power my way through everything

I was actually thinking how overall I think scrafty is the best pokemon for moxie cause it has the best defenses, and on top of that its unique typing makes it so it only has two weaknesses, so it will be able to take a punch and at least strike back, but it may need a boost to its attack just to start using its ability

however Salamence will more likely get to use this ability and not fear anything cause it is the fastest moxie pokemon

I mean it really is a kewl ability but you have to admit if the pokemon is too slow or has bad defenses it will have trouble getting more than one moxie boost
I know its good its arguable one of the greatest ideas for an ability but in a number of fights itll get used for some of its owners
ya know

I dont wanna argue good or bad, cause I admit its good I just think the pokemon that get it need improvement or a good stat boost to really exploit it

Oh, I hope I'm not coming across as argumentative sad

I do see your point about speed and bulk, though.
The only way I could see to remedy that would be to build your team around that weakness.
An Agility-Passer would help the frail Moxie users to sweep. Pokemon like Venomoth with Sleep Powder, Gorebyss w/ Shell Smash and White Herb, and Jolteon are my favorites for passing speed boosts, but you could use Ninjask too if you like that strategy.

nnonononononononononono no
I was worried I come off as arguing I admit I dont care for the ability and do not know if I would use it but I am one of those both sides of the fence person
ex: tax hike
hate it cause it takes money from people, but understand if its going to fund more police officers ya know

but in topics like this Im willing to be the good guy and bad guy for everything like someone was badmouthing klutz, I dont like klutz but I know why its there and think its strategies are clever, so I was more then willing to stop up for poor defenseless klutz, so if someone comes in saying how good or bad something is I gotta at least present a counter arguement

because it gets people thinking like the second part of your response

smell smash/ white herb, that is a great idea no lost but all boosts
I think aside from dragon dance a speed passer would be the best thing a little speed would go a long way with a pokemon with literally the best sweeping ability
though I was just thinking how a sub punching scrafty has a unique niche cause of its slower speed

although I think a revenge kill would do the trick ya know weaken the opponent, or even activate the opponents focus sash or sturdy, and fake out it and get the boost on the switch out ya know