Masrur Fanalis
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- Posted: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:27:58 +0000
We Are Organisms
Ate Your Fries
We Are Organisms
Ate Your Fries
We Are Organisms
Ate Your Fries
Yet again, you block out what I tell you. You asked me why I believe in God, I answer your question, and so you throw a fit and swear for no reason at all. I'm sorry you cant comprehend the existence of God. A boy at my christian school is uncircumcised. Yes, there's christians who are uncircumcised. Never met one guy who hates being circumcised. There's atheist parents who circumcise their children, you know that right? What are you trying to prove here?
Your trying to complain that you were forced to take part in a covenant with a "god" you don't believe in? Let me ask you this, do you celebrate christmas even though its a christian holiday?
So you do confirm you hate christians, huh? Reminds me of a verse.
Mark 13:13
King James Bible
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
I do my own thinking.
The christians were being addressed to. Christians can't hate other christians because of jesus's name sake, except if they weren't truly christian.
You constantly ask where in the Bible it says it. Whatever happened to "who cares what the Bible says?" Which part are you talking about, the part that christians shouldn't hate or the part that he's adressing the people who accept him, christians?
'ye shall be hated of all men' is what I was addressing.
I forget much of what we argued over yesterday because its been a long sort of arduous, and sorry for swearing so much. But I still think christianity is bad because I feel christianity holds back some things. Just like how the vatican tries to withhold people sending condoms to africa to reduce the spread of aids and to reduce having babies who are going to just starve. Its not directly related to christianity however, so I should think of more examples. How people don't advocate the use of stem cells for example, because they say its like killing a baby. Them thinking science is faith based, its not really science was made to try and find facts, religion was made for or is used as explanations that facts provide, comparatively. Another thing is forms of christianity promote alot of conflict, such as thinking I could go to hell for masturbation, which is traumatizing. The puritans would whip themselves to remove 'sinful thoughts', I know you are not a puritan, but thats what our ancestors were like. Now if people did that they would be locked away in a mental hospital. And what happens when our feelings promote sinful thoughts? We would punish ourselves, which creates a great internal struggle. I dont think thats righteous.
Our internal struggles can cause us to snap, can cause us to forget those around us. Can cause break-downs. I think its not productive for society, and each generation has to deal with this. I guess I could blame social culture more than religion, because peopel who leave the religion are still passing on some of those corrupt ideals to their children. The bible also says its okay to beat your wife with a stick if she doesnt obey you, doesnt mean its correct. Yet people still try and justify their actions refering to the bible. Its detrimental to society. Bullies tend to be people who were bullied as well, and they do it as a form of coping, they need therapy not jail time, but for some its too late. And god, the one fromt he bible, seems like a bully to me. DO this or you will burn in hell, you must follow me, Im loving but die if you disobey me. Its an authoritative father-like figure, thats why males are so messed up these days, they have ridiculous expectations to be manly, and ignore their feelings. Ignoring feelings causes people to do things they regret, causes them to dislike themselves, even hate themselves. Psychologically, your quote promotes hate, because it is the topic of the quote. It forms our associations of hate. 'ye shall be hated of all men', is also a divide and conquer strategy. It promotes conflict, seperation from other groups. A minor disagreement cna be misconstrued as a judgemental thought and you get defensive trying to defend your belief because of the misunderstanding. Then they think, this guy hates me, I wont have anything to do with this heathen! They seperate. Divide and conquer is used, historically, as a means for war or political gain, by promoting conflict to make groups that normally could rebel against them, smaller and less competent at it, with politics it causes an us vs them mentality.
Also about the quote, christianity is widespread as well, so itd be hard to say that they will be hated by many, christianity was a minority back when the bible was made probably. Now its not the case.
Ah okay.
Vatican is catholicism.
What denomination says you go to hell for masturbation? As christians we believe that we can't go to hell for our sins because Jesus paid the price for us on the cross. To tell the truth, I have a hard time with masturbation xP
Maybe the puritans did that because they didn't want to do something they'd considered bad?
How is God a bully? He tells you not to do things that are sinful, which will benefit you. The "do this and that" is someway of describing religion. We christian do not see our "religion" like that. We see it as a relationship with Him.
We all die. What are you saying?
No. It doesn't promote hatred. It just clearly says that christians will be hated because of jesus' name sake. you for instance hate christians. You declared so yourself.although it is widespread, it is a minority compared to the rest of the world. When I look throughout Gaiaonline, I can see that people don't enjoy christians very much. :l
Btw where in the bible did it say that?