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Larkadroid

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May I ask if one of you would like to provide a screenie of yesterdays Fallen Quest sale?

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Zzyli
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Yum Moon sold Angelic Quest for 50 mil


Accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative...


Yum Moon

May I ask if you're willing to confirm the quote above? (Preferrably with a screenie if possible.)

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Yum Moon

May I ask if you're willing to confirm the quote above? (Preferrably with a screenie if possible.)

I think that Yum may be on indefinite hiatus. He could be back though. (I know him, but sort of only as a friend of some friends).

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Yum Moon

May I ask if you're willing to confirm the quote above? (Preferrably with a screenie if possible.)

I think that Yum may be on indefinite hiatus. He could be back though. (I know him, but sort of only as a friend of some friends).


Well, it's worth a try.

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Well, it's worth a try.

Absolutely 3nodding

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Well, it's worth a try.

Absolutely 3nodding


By the way, since you like numbers, would you mind checking the bottom of the first post (the Marketplace Data part) of this thread and tell me my calculations aren't way off.

If they're not, I suspect gaia has a serious issue regarding the ABP values of the marketplace.

Prismatic Unicorn

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By the way, since you like numbers, would you mind checking the bottom of the first post (the Marketplace Data part) of this thread and tell me my calculations aren't way off.

If they're not, I suspect gaia has a serious issue regarding the ABP values of the marketplace.







Zzyli - Zzy as in Xylophone, Li as in leaf



Your figures look fine to me. I've suspected for a long time that Gaia's method of calculating ABP takes some kind of 'recent purchases' into account, and doesn't look at long-term trends. Which is why when I price things to sell, unless I'm in a hurry & want them gone, I tend to look at the graphs, which are far more indicative of the average price than the ABP is (except for small-volume sales like the Quests).

I got a more reasonable value for the first Angelic Sale by using ABP (53,051,400)*2-90,000,000. This spat out a figure of ~16,000,000.

Not sure what to do with Risen, as we don't have a cost value on either MP sale, but I do think that the first Risen was the first quest to be found and got sold for a REALLY low price.

Either way, I have no idea what kind of algorithm Gaia is using to get these figures, but it's sure not the one that I'd be using.


Accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative...

Fluffy Bunny

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By the way, since you like numbers, would you mind checking the bottom of the first post (the Marketplace Data part) of this thread and tell me my calculations aren't way off.

If they're not, I suspect gaia has a serious issue regarding the ABP values of the marketplace.







Zzyli - Zzy as in Xylophone, Li as in leaf



Your figures look fine to me. I've suspected for a long time that Gaia's method of calculating ABP takes some kind of 'recent purchases' into account, and doesn't look at long-term trends. Which is why when I price things to sell, unless I'm in a hurry & want them gone, I tend to look at the graphs, which are far more indicative of the average price than the ABP is (except for small-volume sales like the Quests).

I got a more reasonable value for the first Angelic Sale by using ABP (53,051,400)*2-90,000,000. This spat out a figure of ~16,000,000.

Not sure what to do with Risen, as we don't have a cost value on either MP sale, but I do think that the first Risen was the first quest to be found and got sold for a REALLY low price.

Either way, I have no idea what kind of algorithm Gaia is using to get these figures, but it's sure not the one that I'd be using.


Accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative...


Well, I know for a fact that the previous ABP (and only other sale) for the Angelic Quest was 1.000.000, I saw it get sold when vending (missed it by a second or two), I just don't have any screenshots to prove it. In my book this should yield a new average of 45.500.000 (91.000.000/2). The number you got seems to be the error I encountered.

Also the latest MP sale on Risen was 35m, I'm fairly certain of this.

Anyway, whatever they do to mess up the numbers it's not something we can see I guess. Thanks for your input though.

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Zzyli
Sharacia


By the way, since you like numbers, would you mind checking the bottom of the first post (the Marketplace Data part) of this thread and tell me my calculations aren't way off.

If they're not, I suspect gaia has a serious issue regarding the ABP values of the marketplace.







Zzyli - Zzy as in Xylophone, Li as in leaf



Your figures look fine to me. I've suspected for a long time that Gaia's method of calculating ABP takes some kind of 'recent purchases' into account, and doesn't look at long-term trends. Which is why when I price things to sell, unless I'm in a hurry & want them gone, I tend to look at the graphs, which are far more indicative of the average price than the ABP is (except for small-volume sales like the Quests).

I got a more reasonable value for the first Angelic Sale by using ABP (53,051,400)*2-90,000,000. This spat out a figure of ~16,000,000.

Not sure what to do with Risen, as we don't have a cost value on either MP sale, but I do think that the first Risen was the first quest to be found and got sold for a REALLY low price.

Either way, I have no idea what kind of algorithm Gaia is using to get these figures, but it's sure not the one that I'd be using.


Accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative...
Gaia's ABP definitely doesn't take long-term trends into account. That's why you should always check the Graph.

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Well, I know for a fact that the previous ABP (and only other sale) for the Angelic Quest was 1.000.000, I saw it get sold when vending (missed it by a second or two), I just don't have any screenshots to prove it. In my book this should yield a new average of 45.500.000 (91.000.000/2). The number you got seems to be the error I encountered.

Also the latest MP sale on Risen was 35m, I'm fairly certain of this.

Anyway, whatever they do to mess up the numbers it's not something we can see I guess. Thanks for your input though.







Zzyli - Zzy as in Xylophone, Li as in leaf



Yeah... I'm not sure how we can work out what kind of algorithm is being used. Possibly if a couple more quests sold through the MP, we could have a better guess... but I'm really in the dark to be honest sweatdrop


Accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative...
Sharacia
Larkadroid

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May I ask if one of you would like to provide a screenie of yesterdays Fallen Quest sale?

Here you go. ^ - ^
http://i50.tinypic.com/2nvf9fq.png

Fluffy Bunny

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lost in the rhythm
Sharacia
Larkadroid

lost in the rhythm


May I ask if one of you would like to provide a screenie of yesterdays Fallen Quest sale?

Here you go. ^ - ^
http://i50.tinypic.com/2nvf9fq.png


Nice, ty.
And gratz on the sale.
Sharacia
lost in the rhythm
Sharacia
Larkadroid

lost in the rhythm


May I ask if one of you would like to provide a screenie of yesterdays Fallen Quest sale?

Here you go. ^ - ^
http://i50.tinypic.com/2nvf9fq.png


Nice, ty.
And gratz on the sale.
Thank you. c:

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well i guess I'm saving up at least 80M for fallen just in case

thanks for this thread, it's amazing, gotta catch em all!

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well i guess I'm saving up at least 80M for fallen just in case

thanks for this thread, it's amazing, gotta catch em all!


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