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 Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:41 pm
In modern Japanese society; what was once held sacred is now considered a mark of inexperience on the womens part, and makes it that much more difficult for the older women too get some. (they even have volunteers that are only there to help them lose it and make them feel like sex isn't the most vital part of their lives. Seriously) In American society, virginity among males is considered the mark of a shut in and socially weak person who can't get what they want out of life, and is well documented how far some of them will go to lose it before they graduate, and shift into the real world.
What I want to ask is that do the members of the IPG think of virginity in modern society?
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:57 pm
Vriginity? Heh.
I'm not a big fan of virginity, because a woman's first time is yet another obstacle that must be overcome for me to get her to strip for me. If she's had sex before, however, I'm that much more likely to win her over. That aside, I can't help but respect any woman who holds herself to such a moral ideal.
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:16 pm
I don't see what's so special about it myself. However, to each their own
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:42 pm
I figure, to each their own. Some people I know claim to have lost it (before Freshman year...gah, idiots) but I know they haven't (like my annoying jerk acquiantance Brett who grabbed my boob once and called my friend a ******** slutbag and didn't apologize when she got upset because he thought it was funny...he's short and fat and there's no way he lost it). Some refuse to lose it before they're married, some don't care. I figure, whatever. I'm just waiting until I'm out of high school because I'm a romantic type who doesn't want a purely physical relationship and that's what relationships are mostly in high school.
...I didn't just get what I just typed.
Long story short, I wouldn't judge anyone differently because hey, I am one too, but I have no qualms about losing it before marriage, just before I'm 18. I'll probably lose it to my best guy friend, because I don't want to lose it to my "boyfriend" who I'm so "in love" with and dump him in a month. Then it's like...damn, that was a waste.
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:54 pm
I'm a virgin, and frankly, I think that anyone who associates how much sex someone has or has not received with their personality is a retard. I know plenty of timid people who have lost their virginity (subs do tend to attract doms after all) and dominant types who haven't for one reason or another, so I do not perceive a factual link between virginity and personality. So it just... Sort of annoys me when people make that kind of stereotype for either gender.
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:43 pm
I personally don't hold my self in such high morals in a "i'm saving myself for marriage" sense. I'll probably wait until I'm 18, or maybe even longer, depenfing on who I meet in my life.
I find that a lot of young girls have sex because they want attention. They never believed they were loved or cared about by others, and think that once you have sex, you become soul mates. Sadly enough, though, it's almost never true. If anything, it can worsen a relationship (mostly in high school)
Yes, you can make your own decision on when to lose it, but I think that it would to be better to wait. Not only because you'll be more mature and responsible(usually) but the younger the girl, the more easily she can get hurt, or attain and STD. As for the guys, I think it admirable that you can keep it in your pants until you're truly ready. Those who are out there fulfilling their primal urge without thinking of the consequences aren't very attractive to me.
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:56 pm
I was one of those people who just couldn't wait to have sex. Then I did. Whoopdy-doo right? Then what I realized one day, I had already lost it to someone completely different than I had thought. You see, I was quite naive when I was 14 and firgured the only way I could lose my virginity was to be with a man, but in fact, I lost my innocence to a woman. Now, I take pride in that, I feel that it makes me a more sexually diverse person. However, at this point, it has been such a long time since I had _any_ sex, I think my heimen has sown itself back together. eek
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:00 am
I'm agreeing with the "to each their own" people, and with the fact that one's virginity or lack thereof says little about their character.
I am, personally, however, waiting to have sex until either (1) I've found someone I really love or, (2) am willing to have kids. Mainly because I want my first time to be completely free, even if not completely "safe". Nothing's worth doing if it doesn't have a risk, and I figure I should just wait until I'm willing to take that risk.
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:58 am
Right. As several of you may know, I'm the youngest person here (From my last check)
Anyway. I'm kind of in a little pickle about virginity. I have a lovely best friend who is a guy, but not my boyfriend. Recently, the boundaries have been getting a little mushy, and there have been times when it has gotten quite close. DAMN RAGING HORMONES!
I am still a virgin, but for only two reasons. He has a girlfriend in Australia, and my Dad would be disappointed.
I feel that you should do what you want when you feel ready. But it's illegal if you're under 16 in the UK....
Uh....and "virginity" is spelled wrong on the thread topic....(That's me being a spelling nerd)
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:52 am
"I'm saving it for marriage! It'll be more special then! Aren't I a good person?!?"
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"No, you're delusional, or religious. Actually, come to think of it, there isn't that big a diffrence."
I really can't stand the whole "saving it for marriage" mentality. It isn't a "gift for your lover", if you two are fumbling around on your honeymoon, wondering where to put it in. Sex isn't that big a deal. It's pleasure, gratification. It can be made into lovemaking, but, then again, spooning on the couch watching TV can be made into lovemaking.
Moralists frustrate me, can you tell?
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:55 pm
Aeinor Right. As several of you may know, I'm the youngest person here (From my last check)
Anyway. I'm kind of in a little pickle about virginity. I have a lovely best friend who is a guy, but not my boyfriend. Recently, the boundaries have been getting a little mushy, and there have been times when it has gotten quite close. DAMN RAGING HORMONES!
I am still a virgin, but for only two reasons. He has a girlfriend in Australia, and my Dad would be disappointed.
I feel that you should do what you want when you feel ready. But it's illegal if you're under 16 in the UK....Uh....and "virginity" is spelled wrong on the thread topic....(That's me being a spelling nerd) O_O! *feels ashamed*
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 3:24 am
Son of Axeman Sex isn't that big a deal. It's pleasure, gratification. That's where I take slight issue, see. I'm one of those "saving it for marriage" folks, not because i'm religious or that it'll make it seem special. I just don't want to take any risk in getting a girl pregnant simply for "pleasure and gratification". Yes, there's protection and the ilk, but none are exactly 100% effective. Condoms can split, or have holes poked in them, after all - they're what, 95% effective supposedly? I don't think I want that 5% chance, plus any other modifiers that might complicate things. If sex was solely pleasure and gratification, then there's no point going further than my own hand. After all, that does the exact same thing, no? And i'm not expected to wine and dine it. wink
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:57 pm
The percentage is 99.7%, if used properly. The modifiers would be not using it properly, having holes poked in them, et ceteral, et cetera.
Now, why don't we add in, say, multiple methods of birth control? Say, two condoms, or pills, along witha condom?
So, if the failure rate of a condom alone is 0.01%, then with the pill (having a sccess rate (if used properly) of 97%), would be 3% of 0.01%.
3% of 0.01$, Taily? I think you're pretty much covered, on the pregnancy issue, buddy.
EDITLOL: Well, I did the calculation, just for kicks, and found the figure to be 0.003%. That's 3 accidental pregnancies every 100 000 times you have sex.
I don't think even Ron Jeremy has had sex 100 000 times. You're safe.
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:22 pm
Son of Axeman I don't think even Ron Jeremy has had sex 100 000 times. You're safe. Remember. I'm Taily. Give me a girl (hypothetically) and two weeks, and we'll see. wink --- Failure Rate is only 0.3% in theory (Go check your post. It's 99.7, not 99.99% wink ), much agreed. However, if you go do a survey and look at how badly the modifiers come into play; yes, using birth control properly really does help and finding a girl who isn't likely to poke holes in your condom is pretty easy. So, why are there still accidental, unplanned pregnancies even after all these precautions are put into place? I'm not entirely covered, and i'd rather wait until i'm certain. smile
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:50 pm
Tailos If sex was solely pleasure and gratification, then there's no point going further than my own hand. After all, that does the exact same thing, no? And i'm not expected to wine and dine it. wink
To some people, losing their virginity is special. not as a gift to their partner, but asa mark to an event they are part of. It's their first time. Sure, there's inexperience and awkwardness, but damnit, everyone who's had sex has gone through it. It is our initiation to another point of our lives. We are not children anymore, or just adults. We're on our way to fulfill one of our "greatest biological necesities".
And it's not just that. It's a lot of new experiences. It's a lot of "where do you think you're sticking that?"s and "Oops, I meant to tell you to get it out of your mouth, but I didn't have the time"s. It's a lot of new s**t, and a new twist on old s**t.
I'm not glorifying sex at all, if that's what some of you are thinking. I'm just putting into words what many people take for granted after, what, the third, the tenth time? After the first time, things change. Well, not things, but maybe your perspective of them. Wether it be consensual, non-consensual or so-druink-you-don't-remember-sual, it changes your perspective, for better or worse. It's not something to take lightly. I mean, even, or maybe especially, your perspective of your partner changes.
Is it a glorious, marvelouos experience? To some, yes. Is it Earth-shattering? To some, for better or worse, yes. But was is definite is that it changes you, wether slightly or greatly. You even think differently about yourself. It's the reason some want to save if for marriage. It is the reason some want to do it ASAP. It's why some people never want to do it. It is the reason some revel in it, and others regret it. If it weren't fo this, sex wouldn't be any different from masturbation, now would it?
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