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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:52 pm




Or downloading in general.
I saw this on the Hetalia Wiki and I was reading through the comments. I admit, I've done my share of downloading. Buut, I wanted to know....

What do you guys feel about it? [You don't actually have to admit whether or not you download XD]

More info:
http://www.riaa.com/faq.php

http://www.ehow.com/about_4810871_laws-against-downloading-music.html

http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/31/stealing-music-is-it-wrong-or-isnt-it/


PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:27 am


I believe in respecting intellectual property. Theft is not acceptable under any circumstance.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:49 am


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:38 am




Honestly~ the only reason I've got the CDs that I have is because I downloaded it first. I'm kinda fickle so I don't wanna buy a CD and not wanna listen to it anymore after a couple of months. :/

I duly intend to buy ALL of the Hetalia merchandise that comes out though. I could NEVER get bored of Hetalia. XD



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:13 am


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Ah yes, this certainly is an issue that many ponder but few address openly. I believe both sides should be given justice.

Personally, I'm a poor individual who doesn't have the $45.49 + S&H to buy a Hetalia DVD+CD from Play-Asia; I don't even have $29.95+$3.00SH to buy a CD from ebay (I blame the tuition increase). Truth be told, I believe that the price is too much, especially when a single CD contains five songs (then again, perhaps I am being stingy). And, as much as I love Hetalia, I wouldn't mind a slight decrease in price.

Another idea to keep in mind is that there is no guarantee that the companies will bring the music CDs over to America. Unless they believe that profit will win over cost, the companies aren't going to sell products in a different country (which is why I will never see some video games in NA). I'm not so certain about the present number of Hetalia fans, but unless it increases to the number of Naruto fans, I doubt that we'll ever see the CDs (did they even bring Naruto CDs to the states?)

Now, for legality issues:

(This is a direct quote from an email the university sent out) "it is illegal under U.S. copyright law to download or share copyrighted materials - including music, movies, games and software - from the Internet without consent from the copyright holder." So yes, you are correct when you say that downloads are illegal. Under this definition, though, even putting the music files up in YouTube or any other video site is technically illegal because it is being "shared without permission" (hence the massive deletion of videos on YT)

And of course, RIAA is out there somewhere, waiting to catch you. It's interesting, because they actually sent out a music file that contained tracking codes; using this file, they were able to find the IP address of people who downloaded the song and filed lawsuits against them.

Also, the owner of the copyright loses money every time their product is required without payment. This means that Himaruya is working hard, but not getting the maximum profit. As fans, we should be aware of this issue.

Now, this is just food for thought: RIAA is only concerned about the music companies under their label; from what I have seen, any other company is ignored (though I'm uncertain about the extent). Presently, neither Frontier Works nor Media Factory is on the list, but who knows in the future?

This isn't to say that I fully support illegal downloading. I too believe that as fans, we should be buying the products to show our support. Luckily though, the DVDs and manga are coming out next month (I will somehow find the money to purchase both).

(I had to laugh because I found this blog right after I got an email from the university warning students about illegal downloading. Life's funny that way *shrugs*)




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:11 pm


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:35 pm


I still think that people should bite the bullet and work hard to get and use things legally.
You have to live with what is available or find some way to get past these hurdles.
Take action to contact these businesses / property owners.
Organize with others to get something done.

As for creative use of materials, you can if you have permission. Some things are available freely for public use, legally.
Though I can see how it stifles creativity and the expansion of interest in the internet community.
It'd be nice if a compromise could be made, though this is hardcore property issues.

I also see how this sort of thing is so easily forgotten, and to use what is available on the internet.
Life is sweeter without such hindrances. Ignorance can be bliss.
Though from the standpoint of an owner or creator of (~intellectual property) it can be really sucky and annoying; (as well as where's my money b***h!)
PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:45 pm


I feel guilty because as i saw this i was about to go download the soundtrack to Inception =___=

I will admit to downloading music but the music i download isn't accessible in america. But i normally buy the actual cds and such because i like having an item that i can see with my eyes. and if my computer crashed i'd lose everything :/

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:42 pm


But for some of us, who live in america, and cant get hetalia dvd's and who's parents don't want to have something shipped to their house cant get it. So they get it like this! Anyway, forget prussia's page's! There's a huge list of songs with downloads of EVERY hetalia music. But you have to be a member of live journal to access the pages.

EDIT: Ok. Screw that link. I misread EVERYTHING on this page D: *bows* So sorry aru.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:49 pm


I'll just live by my own opinion/beliefs along with my own situation. ^^;
People are naturally free to decide what they want to do after all.
Grey areas and all.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:12 pm


Hmm.. I have downloaded two Hetalia songs and some Vocaloid.
Buut, I made sure the sites were legal first!
I get a lot of music from my friend, who puts it on my memory stick.
I'm not sure whether she gets it legally or not but it's not my problem. I haven't done anything. *innocent face*
But as far as major bands go, I buy they're music.
But lot's of things aren't available in certain places or they're too obscure...that's what downlaods are for.
But always buy what you can, for example, my desk is piled with Nightwish and Metallica albums WHICH I BOUGHT AT WALMART AND FYE. ^.^
So yeah, my opinion, buy if you can. :]
PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:29 pm




Well, I totally understand from an artist's stand point. I wouldn't want anyone stealing my art or characters [which why I don't post them anymore XD].

LOL Gilby. You make me wanna go delete all my songs now. +guilty+ ><

@China: I think it's actually against TOS to post download links.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:29 pm


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Well, I totally understand from an artist's stand point. I wouldn't want anyone stealing my art or characters [which why I don't post them anymore XD].

LOL Gilby. You make me wanna go delete all my songs now. +guilty+ ><

@China: I think it's actually against TOS to post download links.





PFT What download link? *slowly goes to edit mai post and delete all history of posting that* :3
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:41 pm


I just take it straight off YouTube...

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