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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 2:04 pm


My community college aka Jefferson College has a newspaper called the "The Harbringer" and this is from the month of April. As I read through it, I came to this like vs dislike Issue on Twilight and decided "What the heck, why not?" So I've decided that I'll share this with you all and will put the two columns in separate posts because they are kinda long, but definitely entertaining.

Hope you guys enjoy it. And here's the photo of the article.

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 2:51 pm


Girls Scream For Twilight

By Traci Anderson


"So the Lion fell in love with the Lamb."

If you know what movie this is from then you are definitely a Twilight fan.

When I first heard of Twilight, it was already popular with the teenage girls. I remember seeing girls reading the books everywhere: in the halls, in the classrooms, and on the bus. I couldn't understand what the big deal was with these Twilight books until I checked one out of the school library. I read the first few chapters then I was hooked. After that I couldn't put the book down until I read what was going to happen next.

I fell i love with Twilight simply because I loved the story line. A normal teenage girl moves to a new home and falls in love with the most mysterious person at her school, but the twist to this little romance is that her prince charming turns out to be a "vampire", but not the kind of vampire we know from Bram Stoker's Dracula or Buffy the Vampire Slayer, where your typical vampire will die from being exposed to sunlight or can't stand the smell of garlic.

"What if I'm not the hero? What if I'm the bad guy?"

Edward Cullen is the perfect image of the kind of boy that every girl dreams of having. A boy that will risk anything to be with the girl he loves even if it means going against his better judgment or his own selfish reasons' he can no longer ignore his feelings when she's around him. Everything about Edward draws Bella in; his face, his voice, even his smell.

Stephanie Meyer, the author of Twilight, had made the image of a vampire a little different than what we're used to hearing. In her exciting and overwhelming "Twilight Series," she wanted her vampires to stand out from all the other vampires.

Her image she had envisioned: vampires did not simply perish from being exposed to sunlight, but rather the sunlight made them trasnparent, looking like diamonds in the sun. They could eat human food, but could not taste it and no one said they liked it. Stephanie Meyer had made a new kind of vampire and no one thought this change would affect the audience so much, especially that of teenage girls.

Stephanie Meyer's "Twilight Series" is especially popular with teenage girls, but why are girls so passionate about this kind of vampire?

It's simple; Twilight is full of adventure, romance, and suspense. The moment you read the word "vampire" you're hooked and you won't be able to put the book down until the very end.

That's why Twilight has become a sensation throughout the nation. Girls ranging at the young age of ten to women at the age of fifty have read this phenomenal book and love it.

"About three things I was absolutely positive. First, Edward was a vampire. Second, there was a part of him, and I didn't know how dominant that part might be that thirsted for my blood. And third, I was unconditionally and irrevocably in love with him," Bella says. She clearly knows the risk she is taking to be with Edward, but if fate brought her Edward how can she ever deny the feelings she has for him?

Twilight is the story of two star crossed lovers who will blood fued with werewolves, or go up against their own governing sovereign to stay together. It's every girl's fantasy. A forbidden love, a chance to be together, a race that threatens to separate them, and love that goes beyond eternity.

Twilight will forever be a hit series among girls long after the books have been read and the movies hit the shelves. Future generations of girls will forever treasure the love between a vampire and a human.

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:42 pm


Anti-Twilight Critic Bites Back

By Patrick Boos


When you think of the vampire movie genre, you think of the best vampire movies that have come out. With movies such as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Underworld, From Dusk Till Dawn, Bram Stoker's Dracula, and Interview with a Vampire. There is one movie that shouldn't be named with the rest of those, though, and that movie is Twilight.

Twilight shouldn't have ever been in that genre. Twilight was one of the worst movies that has ever been created and honestly, the books are not any better. The books are nothing but Anne Rice copycats that are written on a fourth grade reading level. I can completely describe Twilight's full story line in one sentence: It's about a girl who can't decide what law she would like to break; necrophilia or bestiality.

The dialogue in the movie was horrible, and they tried to base the movie off the book itself isn't any better. How can you really start a movie off with "I always thought about how I would die,"? Are you serious? That isn't how you want to start a movie; it sounds more like how you would want to start a suicide note.

"So the lion fell in love with the lamb," said Edward. "What a stupid lamb," replied Bella. "What a sick masochistic lion," said Edward. Seriously, please, someone pass me a vomit bag before I throw up all over my keyboard.

The character portrayals are terrible. Bella is portrayed as 17-year-old brunette who keeps to herself at first even though the guys in Forks, WA, for some reason or another, are immediately smitten with her. To me though, that doesn't sound right. Bella is as dumb as a rock, and her actions toward her stalker Edward show that. She should be a blonde for the idiotic things that she does. She falls for a pale-skinned guy who never comes out during good weather, then stalks her and watches her sleep for a couple of months before they really begin their relationship.

This needs to be clarified before I go on, for all those out there that believe this is a rant by a closet Twilight fan then you are wrong. This is just something that has needed to be said. The whole Twilight phenomenon has been getting on my nerves ever since its creation. It got worse when all the girls went crazy for the books and movie.

When she realizes that Edward and all the Cullen's are vampires she continues to hang around them, she doesn't go to the cops or anything! Her own dad is a cop and she doesn't tell him. Because of many of the moves that she makes and when she just stares at the camera or when she stutters her lines, she seems empty headed. Then again, maybe it is just Kristen Stewart's bad acting.

Again, I will say it; Edward Cullen is nothing but a pale-skinned, soft spoken, sleep-watching stalker that should be arrested for his intense obsession with a minor. His grimy, never-wash-my-hair look makes him look like a Kurt Cobain rip off. Robert Pattinson's acting and portrayal of a vampire was about as believable as Eddie Murphy's in A Vampire in Brooklyn.

One of the worst parts of this franchise is of the vampire's weaknesses. They can't go out into the sunlight because their skins turns to diamonds and they become sparkly.

I'm going to let you think about that concept for a second; Edward can't go into the sunlight because he turns sparkly. I really wonder what Stephanie Meyer was thinking, or perhaps what she was on when she wrote that part into the story.

If Meyer was trying to make the story less intense for young viewers, then she failed. Put a rating label on the book if you don't want the little kids to be scared of the frightening images. If that is really the case then she should've changed the final fight scene between Edward, Bella, and James and made that less violent also.

Stephanie Meyer said she wants her vampires to be different than all of the rest. That's good and all, but to me, there is a fine line between different and completely stupid, especially if you don't explain why they are like that.

The traditional vampires can't go into the sunlight because it kills them, and they mostly turn into ashes like in Interview with a Vampire. So what is the purpose if him becoming sparkly? That sounds like a last second idea that doesn't eve make sense and seems to not even fit in with the whole story.

On to Jacob, and there are only a few things that you can really say about him; the werewolf side of him speaks for itself and he is there to protect Bella against the vampires. It's too bad that he isn't smart enough to teach her not to be stupid.

In my opinion he isn't a relevant subject. Even in the movie, he sounds like filler because he has a tan and a 6-pack; that right there should show he is only there for the naive teenage girls that love a guy that has no brain but is all brawn. In all honesty I think he would look better as a werewolf, stuffed and mounted on someone's mantel piece as a trophy kill.

For the teenage girls, guys that stalk you and looks like a bum and that hasn't showered in months, are not good for you. Nine times out of ten he's going to end up killing you on night you are sleeping. So all of you dreaming for a stalker like Edward to come and sweep yo off your feet, yeah that's not happening and will only end up leaving you in a case of unsolved murders. So my message to all the Twilight fans out there: Wake up and get real. Bring on the mob.
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 4:09 pm


*Applause*

Well presented.

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:32 pm


okay i will agree except about how bella should have been blonde, I'M BLONDE. i am so sick of blonde jokes and people thinking i'm an air head or a slut because i happen to be a natural blonde. i have am above average IQ and i have better things to do with my time then sleep with every guy around (in fact i've never even kissed anyone and i don't care what you think about that little fact) yes i'm a little touchy about this.
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:41 pm


kikki-the-witch
okay i will agree except about how bella should have been blonde, I'M BLONDE. i am so sick of blonde jokes and people thinking i'm an air head or a slut because i happen to be a natural blonde. i have am above average IQ and i have better things to do with my time then sleep with every guy around (in fact i've never even kissed anyone and i don't care what you think about that little fact) yes i'm a little touchy about this.

Yerr...

So does the paper always do a positive/negative two-way review of things?

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:21 pm


kikki-the-witch
okay i will agree except about how bella should have been blonde, I'M BLONDE. i am so sick of blonde jokes and people thinking i'm an air head or a slut because i happen to be a natural blonde. i have am above average IQ and i have better things to do with my time then sleep with every guy around (in fact i've never even kissed anyone and i don't care what you think about that little fact) yes i'm a little touchy about this.
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I'm a natural blond too, but I think Bella proves that not only blonds are stupid.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:00 pm


kikki-the-witch
okay i will agree except about how bella should have been blonde, I'M BLONDE. i am so sick of blonde jokes and people thinking i'm an air head or a slut because i happen to be a natural blonde. i have am above average IQ and i have better things to do with my time then sleep with every guy around (in fact i've never even kissed anyone and i don't care what you think about that little fact) yes i'm a little touchy about this.


I know Kikki, but I don't think he really meant that except exemplifying the blonde stereotype.

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:06 pm


KingJack!
kikki-the-witch
okay i will agree except about how bella should have been blonde, I'M BLONDE. i am so sick of blonde jokes and people thinking i'm an air head or a slut because i happen to be a natural blonde. i have am above average IQ and i have better things to do with my time then sleep with every guy around (in fact i've never even kissed anyone and i don't care what you think about that little fact) yes i'm a little touchy about this.

Yerr...

So does the paper always do a positive/negative two-way review of things?


No, I don't believe so. I think this was more like an opportunity-positive/negative article. It was pretty good though.
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:15 pm


The term "Star-crossed lovers" will forever and always make me think Romeo and Juliet. If anyone ever compares Shakespeare to that drivel the world can explode for all I care.

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:50 pm


Agreed!

except cobain never did wash his hair, pattinson just does it all up like he thinks it's hot.
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:06 pm


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The term "Star-crossed lovers" will forever and always make me think Romeo and Juliet. If anyone ever compares Shakespeare to that drivel the world can explode for all I care.
Shakespeare was a brillant artist and romeo and juliet actually make alot more sense then twilight s**t couple. romeo actually has a personality, juliet doesn't turn around and start flirting with some filler with no real purpose the second romeo seems to have gone. plus no one sparkles in romeo and juliet. there is no comparision.

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:11 am


kikki-the-witch
Lunakea
The term "Star-crossed lovers" will forever and always make me think Romeo and Juliet. If anyone ever compares Shakespeare to that drivel the world can explode for all I care.
Shakespeare was a brillant artist and romeo and juliet actually make alot more sense then twilight s**t couple. romeo actually has a personality, juliet doesn't turn around and start flirting with some filler with no real purpose the second romeo seems to have gone. plus no one sparkles in romeo and juliet. there is no comparision.


True, true.

Although I admit...the english in Romeo and Juliet will always make me feel I somewhat understand it and somewhat do not. Shakespeare was almost like he was before his time...but definitely not that much on my terms. lol
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:45 pm


I personally think the anti argument could have been presented better. It didn't flow very well and he focused more on the opinion rather than why the opinion is there other than sparkly vampires, for instance he could have talked more about the stalking and how this would affect the really young girls who now have this image in their head. He keeps calling Bella stupid but he doesn't draw much attention as to why she's so stupid and then some more comparing and contrasting between Meyer's vampires and real vampires. Focusing more on the books rather than the movie would have been a better move too seeing as most hardcore Twilight fans read the books and hold them to more value, criticizing the film hardly makes an impression to fans and makes it sound as if you didn't even take the time to learn about what you are arguing against.

The pro-Twilight article used actual quotes while the anti argument only used the very well known lamb quote and opening quote. But when he says "Stephanie Meyer said..." Well where is that quote? If someone was reading his article they might want to know where he heard her say that. Or when he talks about the plot or story events he provides no quotes/textual evidence for the opinions and statements he derived from them.

I'm also not so fond of the blonde statement as most of my friends are natural blondes and very intelligent people.

He got his point across though.

The pro-Twilight argument was definitely an opinion merely stated, almost a blatant advertisement, as it gave no attention to defending itself from counter arguments but I have to say it was presented better than the anti-Twilight argument and was easier to follow. It also focuses a lot on the books and that gives more of an appeal because it will sound like the person writing it is very knowledgeable on the subject which is appealing to a first time reader and someone who has never heard of it before.

I support the anti-argument all the way but if he really wanted to convince people, especially people already fans of Twilight, I think it could have used more improvement. And if I were someone who had never heard of Twilight and then I read these articles, in the end I'd probably pick up a Twilight book at the book store.

IB ENGLISH HAS DONE THIS TO ME. I have to analyze everything I see, read and hear. Sorry.

This is all my own opinion.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:55 am


I agree with you Planetary Seas. I too have to analyze everything I read or see. I disagree with both arguements.
I was disgusted with the blond comments by the anti twilight side. I wish he had more facts than opinion, though he did provide a few reasons why Bella is an idiot, though they were still mostly opinions.
I hated the Twilight fan's statement that once you pick it up, you can't put it down. It took me forever to read it because it was so painful! There is barely any adventure. It's mostly a girl constantly swooning over a "vampire" (but really he's an elf) and occasionally swooning over some other guy when she's bored.
I hate how she says it's every girl's fantasy. It is most certainly not my fantasy! She takes her own opinion and feelings about the book and assumes that everyone else feels the same way.
I also disagree with her prediction at the end. I hope that will not be the case! I think people will be getting smarter and hopefully some day generations will wisen up. There are too many oppressers for it too survive. Hopefully these "vampires" and "werewolves" will be a passing fad.
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