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 Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:57 am
Like, [this fur] just irks me. I know it sounds mean, but geeze he lays things down thickly with a thin layer. I mean, almost every place text can be put, he just HAS to throw in the words gay, yiff, his name, and has to constantly blush and giggle at being pink, like it's a BAD thing, all the while you can SEE his character (if people can see the character, why must you bring up the color?!). And I'm sorry, but "Fennecboi123" is just a generic name... It screams "I have no idea what to use for a name because I'm only in the fandom for the yiff and there was already 122 fennecbois out there". *sighs* People like him make me wanna switch in my fur's natural colors. Or sometimes even outright drop him =
Why, why, why must soooo many people jump into the fandom as a nameless (as "animal name + action/number" is NOT a name) copy/pasta of a fox or wolf (though wolves are black for the stereotypical NewFur) and say they're a fur???? I know, almost anyone can be a furry, but just almost, not EVERYONE can be a fur. >=C There's more to being a furry then just yiff. But NewFurs just don't get that, and more and more are joining the fandom like a cancer (people talk about the fandom getting bad cred and how it's misunderstood, well, these are the folks who ruin things for everyone else). 
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:58 am
 ~~~ This is why I'm not on FA sweatdrop
The only reason Bubble T. has to have numbers on it is because after I spent a lot of time coming up with that name, which is meaningful to me, I found out there were a lot of 'kawaii' fangirls that go 'zomg, lol, bubble tea! lawlz biggrin ' and call themselves some variation of Bubble Tea.
I agree with the whole n00b furs being annoying, and shoving their 'gay pride' down our throats. There's more to the fandom than your sexual preference! And on a side note: is it just me, or is bi the new black? ><;; It's annoying for those of us who are actually serious about these things.~~~ 
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:28 am
I can understand having to use a number or some other kind of alteration to bypass a name being taken, but when your name is "furryfox" and that IS your name, like, "Hi, my name is Furryfox", then yeah, kiiiiiinda sad... And yeah, I guess not being on Gaia for so long has made me forget this place is full of Kawaiidesubos on here.
Look. I'm open and can accept a lot of stuff. I don't mind it. But it doesn't matter if it's religion, sexual preference, or your favorite way to prepare potatos, just don't shove it into my face! *sighs* Bi is just the "in thing". Heh. I guess it's wierd how being Bi was like, just there, like, not too many people seemed to be bi, but it didn't bother anyone either. Now it's the latest thing. EVERYONE wants to be bi. I think it's friggin hi-larious when I browse a furry's page and I see "I am bi, but prefer males mostly" XD What does that even mean?
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:47 pm
Dude... There's a lot of ******** up furs out there sadly. I just let em' do what they do and I stay out of it. Like baby furs? Holy s**t... They scare the crap out of me. This guy? I don't even think he really gives a damn about the fandom... He's just using it to a sexual advantage. Construing it for his own pleasure.
Basically... He's a pervert.
About all the Weeabo's? It's Gaia. It was built upon the premise of annoying animu fangirls. What did you expect?
It's funny... The whole name NewFur suggests that the fandom is growing in number, but not in sophistication... They're tearing us down.
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:14 pm
Yeah. I did mean that. The fandom is growing in number but is missing what being a furry really is. Let's look at the fandom like Sonic the hedgehog's life here...
It all started nice and easy. It drew an interest in people and people started to link up one way or another (like the first Sonic game). The fandom grew stronger. Sure, it had it's weird moments like inflation or weight gain, but it didn't bother anyone really. (sorta like how Sonic 2, and the cool cartoon came out but we had to put up with the bad cartoons too) Now the fandom is growing even LARGER and having a lot more things added to it! We're toally awesome and there are more furry things out there; more art, more music, drawings, sculptures, chat things... Not like before! (Sonic 3/Knuckles and other awesome games) The fandom is still growing and gaining a few new things that are neat, but over all, it's growing and evolving to just an irritating thing... We're having furries scared to admit to being a furry, lying about it, even going as far as saying "I draw ANTHROS, not furries...". The media doesn't like us, sure, but with how a lot of the new members act, yeah... (and here we are, in the Sonic games like these newer and crappy story book themed things that make us really, really hope the HD 2D Sonic game coming soon will reset the fun we all know and loved)
True. The fandom getting bigger and evolving isn't bad. But what good is coming from the NewFurs and idiots not knowing what a furry is saying they are in the fandom? Within on year, I've gotten to see furries act so dang stupid, it makes even ME wish I wasn't in the fandom: Dragon furs throwing fits and saying only dragons can eat other dragons, last years FA banner having the mascots all huge and fatty for COMICAL PURPOSE and for one part of the holiday, a furry banned for asking for a place to stay when all he does is mooch off others and gets his "friends"/fans to take him in only for him to do nothing, mooch, and spend his money on commissions of his character (Dragoneer finally had to say no to his last journal when he was being kicked out again), the admins (just, Dragoneer and Pinkuh, not Silver though... Guess he's the happy fat fur no one hates =P ) being blamed for wrongful banning or taking down pictures (like, ones that SHOULDN'T"T be put up), two furs who yiffed over the net eventually came to the great decision of killing one of the fur's parents (with a lot of other disturbing things o0 ), some fur claiming to be furry but was just a zoophile/bestiality case who was thrown in jail for having sex with his dog, many, MANY "furs" on Gaia here asking why people hate furries then saying stupid things like "So what if I find my dog attractive? I yiff and I'm proud!"..... Ugh......
With that and much much more going on (a lot I prolly won't hear about untill months later too), I can totally understand why a lot of furs are afraid to admit being in our fandom or will leave it/lurk in it. The fandom really needs better standards on what is a furry or not and should pen in all the NewFurs and people who *think* they're a furry and call them something else. Like Phurries or something. *shrugs*
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:32 pm
Agreed. I've seen the source material for just about everything you mentioned. It all irks me to that... eeehh degree. It's almost like the fandom is becoming... A trend.
That my friends. That is ******** scary. I could go off on a scene kid tangent, but I don't think it's gotten that bad yet.
Wait...
Oh no... No... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:38 pm
A trend??? .....
YES
I must do something with this....
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:46 pm
No! Don't you understand!? The scene furs will destroy anything that was great about being a fur in the first place!!!
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:15 pm
~~~ I agree wholeheartedly with all that has been said (well, the majority of it).
I don't usually communicate with the fanbases I belong to for this reason. If I am a fan or member of a group, I don't tend to jump on huge sites like that and be uber involved with the community. Of course, there are aceptions, like this fine guild, and of course my Browncoat friends, but I mainly stay away from the fanbase. I enjoy things because I like them- not because of the fanart. I will not stop being a fur just because some furs are idiots, or turn the fanbase into some monstrosity of popularity. I'll just stop communicating with those furs.~~~
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:18 pm
Think about it like this; the average furry is in his or her teen years. Teen years is all about, according to Erik Erikson's stages of psychosocial development, is all about finding out the answers to " who am I? What is my role in life? What is my purpose?". With the teenie swamped by these questions (and don't tell me you aren't) they tend to try and find guidance in peers (hence fraternities/gangs) or societies (hence, fandoms). Okay.... Let's take an innocent little teenager and then thrust him or her into the real world. They'll be overwhelmed. Subconsciously they'll be looking for people around to identify with. Let's say they haven't. The next best thing is look into society. On the off-chance they didn't become the dreaded "Cullen zombie" (this includes emos), they search around the net and find the fandom. Whoopie, looks like someone's interested. Unfortunately, the site was yiffstar (don't look at me like that. It's just an example. Sheesh...) Anyhow, this "appeases" him due to primal sexual urges and his fascination into the characters. He then winds up a furry...a very yiffy furry sadly who's into so many quirks that you begin to wonder if this person's actually sane. What I'm trying to say is that teen years are all about exploration and looking for the "self". They tend to follow the trend, wherever it goes sadly (not the best innovators at all)). Right now, the trend is in the exploration of "third sex". As for the furry trend.... You can see it for yourself. Right now, no one bothers to try and fix it because IT WORKS. Before, there was an attempt to try and stem the tide (the ill-fated yerf.com), but it didn't last long. Also, the new people who join really don't know what "furry" is. There's no one out there really that puts a definition as to what constitutes what furry is. And if there is, none of the new people bother taking a look. They just jump in and "try" to fit in, not knowing what they're trying to fit into. The new people end up doing stuff that would hurt the image of furry. That, and may also end up irritating the rest of us to the point that you'd want to just put a sock in his/her mouth. So yeah, expect a fennecboi124, fennecboi125 and such. I actually won't be surprised if the new one is already fennecboi130 actually.
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:22 pm
(LOL sorry if this is tltr sweatdrop )
When I first started browsing FA pretty regularly I kinda got used to all the horrible things the fandom has to offer. Scatplay HERM etc etc. For a while now I've had a creepy stalker chick on my Gaia account and she always tries to start up sexual roleplays with me because I was nice to her. I HATE it because she knows I don't like girls and yet she keeps trying to start one. I have mixed emotions about the whole gay fur thing because I am gay. No, I'm not going to run out and get my nails done and dress up in a skirt, I just like dudes. I hate ideas being shoved in my face, and in turn I think I'm pretty good at keeping kinda quiet and respecting other peoples ideas. (and the odds of you finding me in a "gay pride" group are almost impossible.)
Now as for the new fur thing... I'm kinda new to the fandom. (I believe I started about this time 2 years ago) And I was pretty clueless about the whole thing, I just liked Anthro art (and had a friend that was a furry). I've made some mistakes, but I've gotten better, and well, here I am. XP
The fandom is many things but mostly it's just fun. Weather it's talking to other furs, laughing at bad art, or admiring good art, discussing horrible fur fetishes, listening to furry podcasts, dressing up as or drawing your fursona I always find it easy to have a fun time.
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:07 pm
@Trias: Actually, no, I never thought "who am I?" as a teenager. I asked things like "why did I have this life?" or "why should I exsist?". I didn't care about who I was. I already knew. I do understand teenagers want to have something to relate on and people to relate to. But there is a difference between someone going "Hi, I'm Finarae, a pangolin. I'm new in the fandom and I'm happy to meet you ^^" and someone going, "Hi! i'm Yiffywulf213. U want 2 Yiff?". I know I'm pretty weird. The fursonas I might wear in the fandom are strange, have pretty out there physics and are just over all off beat compared to normal furs, but I don't act like an asshat or overly go murrypurry freash and furry all over the place. I conduct myself with mannors and my furry representation uses the same process I would. I was new to the furry fandom myself. I didn't jump right in. I observed like any message board and just was myself before making my first fursona. Only thing I learned about the fandom that is different then most is furries are open minded (well, moreso then most people who aren't furs) and are quite nice and accepting. Wouldn't matter if you're a husky, a binturong, or a civit, furs are weird and flawed so we stick together.
Too many of the NewFurs see how open and accepting the fandom is and think they can just cookie cutter out a fursona and jump into yiffy stuff = No thought of the character, no direction, no respect to other furries with how they present themselves in the fandom... Ehhh... =/
@Orion: Yeah, I didn't browse FA's themes for a good long time as I wasn't mentally prepared to do a search into it sweatdrop But I got over the nervous feeling and looked around. I only search like three themes on FA other then the casual furry stuff, but tha's all I pretty much do. I stay away from the stuff that squicks me, so, I'm safe XD
A creepy stalker? Yikes o0 Careful with that. And ugh... Gender/gender preference role... I don't think gay guys need to run out and wear a skir. Girls don't get to own skirts to themselves though either =P Wearing clothes like that is just wearing clothes (I'm strait. I've warn a skirt for a day. I wear them too well though.). Oh, well, the NewFur thing does not mean if you're new, you're a NewFur. It has nothing to do with one just starting out or how old they are. Just I see the majority of people who say they're furs when they're really not or these young furs who just miss what the fandom is all about... " talking to other furs, laughing at bad art, or admiring good art, discussing horrible fur fetishes, listening to furry podcasts, dressing up as or drawing your fursona I always find it easy to have a fun time" Sadly, that doesn't work. Not for NewFurs. Talking to furs involves hitting on every fur untill they find a few they can get all murry purry with and yiff, there IS no bad art to them, any art they look at or share is yiff (even poorly drawn), discussing fettishes is done about in a way of exchanging what their OWN fetishes are, and of coarse dressing and drawing as their fursona leads to, you guessed it, yiff. I HATE that word.... I was just a random critter onomonopia, and now it's slang for porn/adult themed stuff. Ugh... The fandom IS about having fun and banning together (as a lot of the furry groups that were created in the first place were the outcasts, sometimes nerdish, and were all rejected by schoolmates/society, so they all met online or in person some way or another and tha's how the fandom was pretty much born).
Ugh... the rain storm here is making my head worse so, I should prolly not type up so much stuff here... Sorry for extra spelling errors there. Oh, and Trias, when you said no one really puts a definition to what constitutes what a furry is? Guess what buddy, you've really, REALLY made me want to make a furry guidline now. I don't care how generic it is, but I'm gonna do it. I'll be coming up with a script and put Sound Forge on my friend's computer and I'm gonna make some recordings. Might do it in Flash format and capture it to upload on Youtub too. *shrugs* It needs to be made. I would love to make it. I need a project anyways... I'm bored =P
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:35 pm
*Sigh*
Ah, the NewFurs.
They'er like noobs, only worse! Look, I've been involved in the fandom since about January and I feel that I've experianced alot. I've also found my apparent bi-sexuality!...Which is probably pansexuality because I believ thta love is love and that if you love someone and you love them back, it doesn't matter what your physical features are. Ah, but I digress. NewFurs can be a neusance. Wheather it be egging on flamers by telling them to stop, being bad examples, or being straight-up *****. The, "Nerfs: as I will call them are usually, as someone else said, (Sorry for not remembering) young exploritory teens that are discovering themselves. Well, I am a young teen, being 14 (15 on the 9th of Oct!!)) but I've been a furry and not known it for practically my whole life. In like...4th grade, I was addicted to the Warriors books by Erin Hunter and even made my own name based on my traits, hence Limbershadow. In first grade, I always associated more with my pets than my friends, because I didn't have meny. I've always felt closer to animals than most people, and most of the neighborhood pets liked me more than they liked their owners! XD If I would have stumbled upon the fandom earlier, I still would've identified myself as a Furry, unlike most other Nerfs. If siad Nerfs would've discovered the fandom after the "Discovery Stage" they probably never would've joined! But aabout two things that really scare the living s**t outta me are babyfurs/diaperfurs, and MIDDLE AGED FURS! *retches* I forget where his was, but there was an old Nerf on a social site that was like, in his late 60s, and "Wants Yiff"! Bleh! I promise you, take away the Yiff, and we'll lose like, half of the fanbase, right there!
-Hoping It's Not A Trend and Still Watching Guile say, "NOOOO!"
~Rocky LaRouge~
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:50 pm
Ugh...
Basically, it doesn't matter what the specific group is, there will ALWAYS be some people who do it for some other reason and aren't really a part of said group. Ex: When emo was the coolest thing ever, dunno if that's still going on... I don't pay attention to things like that.
These NewFurs really need a reality check, and everyone but my family knows that I am a furry. They think I'm weird enough, adding this might be too much for them... Despite the fact I think it's perfectly normal and harmless; of course every group has their dark side - Fur Fandom is no exception as most of us are aware.
Oh, Mauro, I could help you with that "guide". surprised
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:30 pm
Ohhh, congrats on the soon-to-be birthday ^^ Hope it goes well for ya =3
*nods* Actually, that's one way a lot of the older furs had gotten together really. Though, I don't think taking out all the yiff would loose half the fanbase =P There's nothing wrong with the adult artwork if it wasn't so majorly bad or popular. Some of it is really well drawn and colored, but sadly it's gotten to the point where a lot of artists on FA debate on whether or not porn makes your popular or not and the fact it sells so well when it comes to commissioning or auctions on furry sites like Furbuy. *laughs* But getting rid of yiff wouldn't be possable anyways. It's like saying "we need to get pornography off the internet".
As for the baby/cub/diaper furs, well, I'm mixed feelings on it... On the one hand I don't mind the cutesy young characters. It's the whole used diaper thing or trying to use an adult theme to them that really bother me =< This is made worse when the older aged furs have the your and pre-teen fursonas... Ugh.... That's just wrong... I can understand having some kind of age difference in a character, but try an' make it slight, not WAY off in a radical way (not counting the whole hundreds of years old thing =P).
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