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 Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:28 am
I always imagined that dieselpunk would follow, then either nuclear or bio, which would cause some sort of apocolypse that would be our own undoing. But cyber punk has to fit in some were so that messes up the whole "timeline." But the whole using water idea sounds the best and it's better than having to burn gas. Steam power in space lol.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:32 am
I always imagined that dieselpunk would follow, then either nuclear or bio, which would cause some sort of apocolypse that would be our own undoing. But cyber punk has to fit in some were so that messes up the whole "timeline." But the whole using water idea sounds the best and it's better than having to burn gas. Steam power in space lol.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:08 am
Steampunk evolves into... Star Wars tech... maybe... but prettier.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:45 pm
Personaly i believe that if we would have stayed on the steam route, technology would be close to what it is today. Creating a newer ways to produce steam, such as with electricity, fossil fuels would probably become upsleat, and steam would become the most efficiant and reliable way to use machinery.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:52 pm
Death Dealer u Personaly i believe that if we would have stayed on the steam route, technology would be close to what it is today. Creating a newer ways to produce steam, such as with electricity, fossil fuels would probably become upsleat, and steam would become the most efficiant and reliable way to use machinery.
More efficient evaporating liquids, maybe?
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:12 am
Steam punk will probably evolve into netpunk as the internet is the largest influence on on society since steam.
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:00 am
I think a nice indication of how the world would have progressed in a steampunk world is the film Perfect Creature. In my mind it shows the 'next step', as time speeds into the 20th century. Fashion, technology, society, that sort of thing. So you still have steam being used for a variety of things, plus you have all sorts of mad-cap designs and wonderful inventions, but you see people starting to introduce other more modern inventions such as motor cars and the like.
But yes, I do think the evolution of steampunk would follow a route fairly similar to our own world, as we discover new and better means of fuelling our society so would they. So eventually they would move to oil and nuclear and things.
The only difference in my mind being they would be more technologically advanced than us. And so in time they would have flying cars and other such nonsense a bit before we do. :p
And the reason I think that is because unless there is some huge social difference in our steampunk world, why wouldn't they make the same discoveries and advances as us? Only a little more exciting.
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:16 pm
Perhaps hydrology but still remain with steam as it is renewable and doesn't involve hacking up the land.
Fashion, society, medicine etc would evolve to todays level or above I believe. technology would be adapted so it was more environmentally friendly etc.
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:21 am
For those claiming that steam doesn't involve hacking up the land, you are aware that the steam was generally generated with coal, yes? Charcoal does not produce enough heat to create high pressure steam.
Personally my view is that society would not move on as quickly from steampunk, since it actually relies on very advanced technology as it stands. When we moved on from steam, we hadn't even come close to exhausting its potential, but every technology does have its limits, that's why society moves on to new technologies.
I believe that it would have become gradually more stagnant, in a similar way to many other technologies (even ones we have now - how much advancement have we really had in petrol engines over the last few decades), and either eventually collapse or move on to the combustion engine, the logical next step after steam.
So basically, dieselpunk.
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:13 pm
I agree with the dieselpunk idea, from there it would probaly go to cyberpunk...and eventualy a fallout-ish kind of world.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:56 pm
SPI -14 Yuuki Belmonte I, personally, believe that mankind would continue using steampower until it found a more efficient power source. I can see the steampunker's descendants crafting something more built around hydroelectricity. Or nuclear...
technically our nuclear power plants produce supercritical steam and run it through steam turbines as a secondary source of power today, so actually we are already here, the 19th century is gone but steam power is far from it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:28 pm
Dieselpunk and then atompunk and then cyberpunk?
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:56 pm
My own imagination wants me to think steam tech would keep evolving and finding newer uses and applications, but that's me.
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:18 pm
I tend to think the very next era would be a Dieselpunk version of the mobster era.
Following THAT, though, we have basically every spy movie ever... Except that it's not a spy movie anymore. That is, I believe we'd have a world that's like modern-era sci-fi movies, except that that level of technology is the NORM rather than being stuff kept only for those with Level Black Clearance.
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Which means the stuff that IS kept For Your Eyes Only is even MORE intense.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:58 pm
I'm not sure I really understand why natural progression for many people seems to be steam--diesel. The foundation of Steampunk technology is the concept that perhaps someone found a way to make steam power more reliable and efficient. If that's the case, then why would we need diesel?
Steam power is all about taking the energy held in the hydrogen bond of a water molecule and releasing it in a way which can be used. Traditional piston steam engines generally have about a 5%-10% efficiency rate meaning that more than 90% of the energy of the bond simply escapes as heat.
The engine in your average car has about a 20%-30% efficiency rate and a diesel engine has about a 40% efficiency rate.
However, large output steam engines equal or outdo the efficiency of diesel engines. It's just that they lose efficiency on smaller scales. If, theoretically, someone could create a steam engine which was highly efficient, even on a small scale, then there would be absolutely no point in using diesel--especially since water is easier to acquire than oil. Additionally, the steam itself poses no threat to the environment--the environmentally unfriendly aspect is how the water is heated. There wouldn't necessarily be a lot of incentive to look for an alternate energy source than steam--just an alternative to coal, which, hey, we find ourselves looking for even today. Natural gas or even solar power could provide that.
I think technology would progress to allow less and less energy to escape as heat and to find more efficient and cheaper methods of heating water to break hydrogen bonds in the first place. In time the focus might be, like our modern society, also on the effects of our energy sources on the environment. I think that there would probably be experimentation with nuclear power as well. It's about energy on the molecular and atomic level just like steam power is. It's just in the 1800s scientists didn't understand precisely what was they were doing when they used steam. In reality, the hydrogen bond holds great potential as a power source, even now.
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