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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:38 pm
POLL WILL BE OPEN FOR TWO DAYS ONLY For those of you who are unaware of what this is about, the Black Moon Clan storyline will be playing an integral part to the beginning of the guild roleplay. We have changed up a lot of the storylines for the Canons, which I advise you read about here and here before making your decision. IF you have any questions, feel free to ask them. I ask that all members participate in this because it will affect everything. So... here are the plans. You may expand on these ideas as they could still be subject to some slight changes depending on the general consensus of the comments in this thread. In other words, if we have one plan with the most votes, we may or may not incorporate some other ideas into it from the other plans. You will be informed of such changes, though.
Plan A: Ruby and Sophie, the daughters of Demande and Usagi, are the ones who would inherit the Moon and Nemesis crystals upon the retirement/death of their previous owners. This would not necessarily be in actual formation during the majority of this roleplay; it would probably just be known that they would ultimately inherit those crystals when it was their time to do so in the future. As far as who receives which crystal... Ruby would have the Nemesis crystal, and Sophie would have the Moon crystal (no, she would NOT become Sailor Moon). That, or because they are twins, they would share a crystal somehow.
The interesting thing about the Nemesis/Moon crystal idea is that it ties in well with the story about Saphir kidnapping Sophie under the assumption that she is his biological child (in reality, she is Dimande's child). Saphir could be led to believe that she possesses the Nemesis crystal, and since the general idea is that he "created" the Biyotik senshi on Nemesis and raised an army there, he would use Sophie with her alleged crystal to his benefit. He would believe she is the possessor of the Nemesis crystal when, in reality, Rubi is. It'd be a neat little plot twist for the Black Moon family. (In other words, nothing's changed for this plan.)
Plan B: During/before the first Moon Kingdom was established (the distant past), Sailor Nemesis ended up dying a very tragic death that impacted the entire planet Nemesis, leaving it dark and disfigured. After the BMC battles, Dimande and Serenity were ultimately left with complete control of the Moon Kingdom. Dissatisfied with the outcome of such events, Saphir conducts a long series of research into Nemesis, with a desire to "inherit" the former senshi's kingdom. Saphir would evidently realize that senshi and their planets are linked, thus gaining the desire to resurrect Sailor Nemesis and revive the kingdom that once was. Knowing that it would be nearly impossible to resurrect an ancient powerhouse such as she, Saphir decides to create the Biyotik senshi in an attempt to replace her. Needless to say, the plan fails, and Saphir suddenly gets a hunch that the real key to resurrecting Nemesis is either on Earth or the Moon Kingdom, thus beginning the war with his pawns, the Biyotiks, against the Gemstones and the rest of the Black Moon Family.
Plan C: Saphir, the brother of Prince Dimande and member of the royal Black Moon family, has been working on a plan to recreate Sailor Nemesis as a means of combat against Sailor Moon and the Black Moon Kingdom (formerly the Moon Kingdom) in order to establish the planet Nemesis as the ultimate stronghold of the galaxy. However, during his work, he comes to one unfortunate realization: something is missing in his plan. Though he is not quite sure what, he has a vague idea that it has to do with the Gemstones. It isn't until later on in the roleplay that Saphir finally realizes what it is he's been looking for: the mini-crystals (which belong to the Inners) that are used to "charge up" the Immediate's attack. With the use of the mini-crystals, Sailor Nemesis would successfully be re-summoned for a short amount of time and be a total BAMF for a few minutes.
All of this would take place during the roleplay and over time; not all at once. It would serve as a great skeleton for the war that takes place at the start of the main roleplay.
Plan D: This would generally be the same as Plan C, except Saphir's "vague idea" would be that the mini-crystals of the Inner senshi would be the necessary element needed to to re-summon Sailor Nemesis. At the last minute, however, he comes to the sudden realization that the true key to re-summoning Sailor Nemesis is through stripping the powers of the Biyotiks (whom he created out of the remains of Nemesis) and returning them to their former owner. Sailor Nemesis would then be resurrected, but only as a shell of her former self and a few intriguing words to say about the entire situation. She would then end up being destroyed, either by destroying herself or the other senshi destroying her (the suspense! ;D).
This would give the Biyotiks some inner-conflict and force them to go through decision process as to whether or not they, as individual senshi, want to leave Saphir or not. This incident would open up the opportunity for Biyotik senshi to join the Gemstones or go rogue.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:39 pm
QUOTES ON THE PLANS Guardian Sailor Topaz I like Plan A, which seems to be mostly a background for Ruby and Sapphire and seems to work along with any/all of the other plans. As for the rest, I kind of like a mashup of Plans B and D. Saphir tries to create the Biyotik senshi to replace Sailor Nemesis, but since they aren't fully linked the planet isn't restored the way he had hoped it would be and he isn't getting results and/or control of Earth and the Moon Kingdom fast enough. That's when he decides to strip the powers from the Biyotiks in an attempt to resurrect Nemesis (shell-of-her-former-self style), though his plan ultimately fails. ------------- Ooh! I just had a quick thought! When Saphir "suddenly gets a hunch that the real key to resurrecting Nemesis is either on Earth or the Moon Kingdom" (quoting from Plan B, but this could work with the others as well), it could be that he finally realized that Sapphire did not have the Nemesis crystal, but has the Moon crystal instead. He went and kidnapped her, and then he discovers that she isn't even the right one. This could even lead to a falling out between the two (as in, Saphir could hate her or declare her useless for having the Moon crystal), since it seems that Sailor Sapphire is going to go rogue after part of the war. It could also help tie Plan A in with the other plans. I'm with Asteria, I can't pick just one! I like a combo of at least three plans... :XP
Sailor Asteria Well, like every good villain I think Saphir should try different things and have them fail. That being said, why not do all the plans in that order? He can use Sophie until he realizes that her crystal won't do him any good (plan A), then he creates the Biyotik senshi to resurrect Nenemis, but when it doesn't work he uses them to start the war on Earth or the Moon Kingdom (plan B). He could then try to get the mini-crystals, thinking that would work, but maybe it only partially summons Sailor Nemesis...like for a couple seconds (plan C). Then he realizes that he needs to strip the Biyotiks of their power, and manages to summon Sailor Nemesis's shell and she goes all badass and implodes or gets destroyed (plan D).
Gabriella Ellenor Could actually use what was shorted up of the three plans as the plot itself. For example, use part B as the opening/background. Then weave in Part A, and later Part D. What I mean is... we start off with Nemisis passing away. Saphir and Dimande could get into a fight... as Saphir wants Nemisis revived and Dimande refuses to be of any help because he is with Serenity. Saphir then goes and starts his research into how to revive Nemisis and comes to the thought of making the Biyotiks. From there he figures out that they cant replace Sailor Nemisis, but thinks that the crystal is going to be reborn... thus the kidnapping of Sapphire. With Sapphire at the helm of his Biyotiks army, Saphir goes to take revenge on Dimande and the Moon Kingdom for 'turning their back' on him and Nemisis. Then Saphir finds out that his original planning has failed (again). He ends up stripping the Biyotiks of the power that they have and the shell Sailor Nemisis is born. And while the sailor is functioning, she is cold/emotionless/empty. Kind of like a puppet or something. While its a good improvement, its not what Saphir wanted as the planet still isnt healed. Using Sailor Nemisis, he goes after Ruby when he figures out that she has the Nemisis crystal... having cast Sapphire aside. Just throwing it out there. D=
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:40 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:06 pm
emotion_kirakira I liked either C or D
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:19 pm
Is there an 'All of the above' option? surprised
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:22 pm
Sailor Asteria Is there an 'All of the above' option? surprised Well... I can always add it. ;D I was actually thinking about adding like a list of combo options, like "A, B, C, D, A+B, A+C, ... A+B+C, A+B+D, etc." xd I have it all worked out so I mean, I could do that. It might look little funny but it is workable. lmfao
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:26 pm
GS Sailor Sapphire Sailor Asteria Is there an 'All of the above' option? surprised Well... I can always add it. ;D I was actually thinking about adding like a list of combo options, like "A, B, C, D, A+B, A+C, ... A+B+C, A+B+D, etc." xd I have it all worked out so I mean, I could do that. It might look little funny but it is workable. lmfao
That oughta be a fun list to make. xD
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:29 pm
Sailor Asteria GS Sailor Sapphire Sailor Asteria Is there an 'All of the above' option? surprised Well... I can always add it. ;D I was actually thinking about adding like a list of combo options, like "A, B, C, D, A+B, A+C, ... A+B+C, A+B+D, etc." xd I have it all worked out so I mean, I could do that. It might look little funny but it is workable. lmfao
That oughta be a fun list to make. xD I just might do it... or, if the votes turn out even or pretty close together, we could work out a combination of all of them in this discussion. That might be a little bit easier, you know? Then put the top rated one more at the forefront of the plot, I guess... if that makes sense. xd
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:38 pm
GS Sailor Sapphire Sailor Asteria GS Sailor Sapphire Sailor Asteria Is there an 'All of the above' option? surprised Well... I can always add it. ;D I was actually thinking about adding like a list of combo options, like "A, B, C, D, A+B, A+C, ... A+B+C, A+B+D, etc." xd I have it all worked out so I mean, I could do that. It might look little funny but it is workable. lmfao
That oughta be a fun list to make. xD I just might do it... or, if the votes turn out even or pretty close together, we could work out a combination of all of them in this discussion. That might be a little bit easier, you know? Then put the top rated one more at the forefront of the plot, I guess... if that makes sense. xd
That sounds less stressful and less time consuming. -nods-
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:56 pm
Sailor Asteria GS Sailor Sapphire Sailor Asteria GS Sailor Sapphire Sailor Asteria Is there an 'All of the above' option? surprised Well... I can always add it. ;D I was actually thinking about adding like a list of combo options, like "A, B, C, D, A+B, A+C, ... A+B+C, A+B+D, etc." xd I have it all worked out so I mean, I could do that. It might look little funny but it is workable. lmfao
That oughta be a fun list to make. xD I just might do it... or, if the votes turn out even or pretty close together, we could work out a combination of all of them in this discussion. That might be a little bit easier, you know? Then put the top rated one more at the forefront of the plot, I guess... if that makes sense. xd
That sounds less stressful and less time consuming. -nods- Agree'd. 3nodding
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:05 am
D sounds very interesting. It would give a nice look into your 'enemy'. <3
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:50 am
Ooh! I just had a quick thought! When Saphir "suddenly gets a hunch that the real key to resurrecting Nemesis is either on Earth or the Moon Kingdom" (quoting from Plan B, but this could work with the others as well), it could be that he finally realized that Sapphire did not have the Nemesis crystal, but has the Moon crystal instead. He went and kidnapped her, and then he discovers that she isn't even the right one. This could even lead to a falling out between the two (as in, Saphir could hate her or declare her useless for having the Moon crystal), since it seems that Sailor Sapphire is going to go rogue after part of the war. It could also help tie Plan A in with the other plans.
I'm with Asteria, I can't pick just one! I like a combo of at least three plans... xp
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Guardian Sailor Topaz Crew
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:30 am
Guardian Sailor Topaz Ooh! I just had a quick thought! When Saphir "suddenly gets a hunch that the real key to resurrecting Nemesis is either on Earth or the Moon Kingdom" (quoting from Plan B, but this could work with the others as well), it could be that he finally realized that Sapphire did not have the Nemesis crystal, but has the Moon crystal instead. He went and kidnapped her, and then he discovers that she isn't even the right one. This could even lead to a falling out between the two (as in, Saphir could hate her or declare her useless for having the Moon crystal), since it seems that Sailor Sapphire is going to go rogue after part of the war. It could also help tie Plan A in with the other plans. I'm with Asteria, I can't pick just one! I like a combo of at least three plans... xp Ooh... yes! I like this idea a lot. 3nodding
Even if Sapphire doesn't possess the moon crystal per se, it would be extremely interesting for him to believe she has the Nemesis crystal for one reason or another and then, yes, find out she doesn't have it. The mere fact that she does not have what he wants could be enough reason for him to reject her, and that could shed light to Sophie about who he really is and what he's really doing... thus making her decide to become rogue, as she can't really face siding with people she fought against beforehand.
emotion_bigheart Yaaaay~ I like that.
and... I totally get what you mean about not being able to pick. I'm thinking we'll work out a combo either way, based on the ones that get the highest votes and what the ratio those ones are to the others.
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:13 pm
I like the idea of combining them all, like Asteria said.
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:41 pm
Okay, so it looks like Plans A and D took the lead with 6 and 5 votes respectively, while Plan B came in at third with 3 votes, and Plan C with only one vote.
I'm thinking what we'll do is combine plans A, B, and D, with plan B being the least prominent of the three options. I can live with a little bit of Plan C being mixed in if necessary, though it essentially is the same thing as Plan D minus one minute detail.
So... I'm assuming there are quite a few ways we could go about this. Asteria already listed a great idea for how we can mix all four plans into one (which you can see in the "Quotes" section of this thread), but since we did conduct a poll and all... we might as well see if there's any other ideas we could talk for this roleplay.
Here is a very brief and over-analysed summary of the top three plans a handful of you voted on. I advise that you all go back to refer to the longer version of these plans, but for those of you who just want a quick grasp of what they're essentially saying, here you go. Thank me later. ;D
Plan A (summary): Ruby + Sophie = daughters of Serenity and Dimande. - Ruby is meant to inherit the Nemesis Crystal. - Sapphire is meant to inherit the Moon Crystal upon Usagi's death/retirement (though this more than likely will not actually happen in the roleplay; it would just be a known fact that this would happen one day in the distant future). She would not become Sailor Moon, she would just own the crystal. Kind of like the whole King/Queen hierarchy heir crap. - Ruby and Sophie are NOT twins, this information has been changed. Ruby is older, Sophie is younger. - Saphir believe Sophie (Sapphire) has the Nemesis Crystal. Part of why he abducts her and takes her to the Nemesis "planet" is so he can eventually take the crystal from her to "revive" Sailor Nemesis. - Later during the war/roleplay, he finds out that Ruby is actually the one with the Nemesis Crystal.
Plan B (summary): Before the Moon Kingdom existed, Sailor Nemesis died a tragic death that is still a mystery to everyone. Her death somehow led to the entire destruction of Nemesis itself, which is why it looks so dark and disfigured and not like a planet at all. - Saphir wants to inherit the Nemesis kingdom, so he tries to reestablish it by replacing Sailor Nemesis with the Biyotiks. The plan fails. - Saphir gets a "hunch" that the real key to resurrecting Nemesis is either on Earth or the Moon. - The war begins.
Plan D (summary): Saphir has been trying to recreate Sailor Nemesis so he can use her to fight against Sailor Moon and the Moon Kingdom. - He realizes something is missing in his plan, and gets a vague idea that the secret key to reviving Nemesis is by collecting the mini-crystals of the Gemstones (primarily the Inners). - The war begins. - Saphir realizes that the true key to reviving Nemesis is by stripping the powers away from the Biyotiks that he injected each Senshi with. The powers he gave them came from the remains from Nemesis. - He would successfully strip them of their powers and use them to revive Sailor Nemesis. - Sailor Nemesis would turn out to simply be like a shell of former herself, and she'd be badass and do something cool (depending on who portrays her; I have someone in mind), but ultimately would be destroyed once more in some way.
I expect to see some great additional ideas and/or opinions on already established plans. Don't be afraid to speak up; unless you're a complete jerk and are nasty to everyone, nobody will judge you. ^^ Let's get this thing on the rolllll! ;D
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