Real reason why you hate President Bush. Give me facts

[Shining_Celebi]

Jedediah Smith

SeungMina56

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1a) Bush is for the death penalty. Pro-Life and for the Death Penalty. Anybody see contradictions here? If life is sacred...WTF is wrong with him?

There is no contradiction, the death penalty is about punishing the guilty and pro-life is about saving the innocent.

And yet, the New Testament forbids killing for any reason, whether it be punishment, revenge, or even self-defense. If 'Thou shalt not kill" applies to fetuses, why does it not apply to the guilty?

Not to mention, of course, that a great many convicts on Death Row are later found to be innocent.

[pockybot]

It's so sad, everyone is focused on "OMG BUSH!". No no no, it's d**k Cheney who is really pulling the strings. that crooked smile harbinger of nefarious corporate interests is just one of th emany heads the public should learn about.

Did you know Haliburton, under being CEO of Cheney, was caught selling tens of millions of dollars of illegal tradings to Iran, Iraq and Lybia(selling even nuclear triggers)? Then a couple years later when Cheney is vice president, he goes on tv and says "we need to invade Iraq! They could attack us within a matter of weeks!". And then he gives Haliburton a no bid contract on Iraq, after they blow the place up. And that is just a itny tiny part of it.

Not to mention the fact in September of 2000 Cheney said America needed a new pearl harbor so they could invade Iraq and imperialize the middle east.

It's really sad to see people so focused on Bush, when they can't even see what's really going on, and whose relaly running the show.

How many of ya folks know anything about d**k Cheney? Or how about Paul Wolfowitz? Donald Rumsfeld? Karl Rove?

[Satoriseeker]

Shining_Celebi

Jedediah Smith

SeungMina56

<snip>
1a) Bush is for the penalty. Pro-Life and for the Penalty. Anybody see contradictions here? If life is sacred...WTF is wrong with him?

There is no contradiction, the penalty is about punishing the guilty and pro-life is about saving the innocent.

And yet, the New Testament forbids for any reason, whether it be punishment, revenge, or even self-defense. If 'Thou shalt not kill" applies to fetuses, why does it not apply to the guilty?

Not to mention, of course, that a great many convicts on Row are later found to be innocent.

Huzzah! "gives Shining_Celebi a high five"

[materva]

Ok, I could go on for hours typing the facts other's have said and more but I don't think that's what really matters. Let me tell you a little story about our government under President Bush, and it's a true story too.

A French reporter was making very heated debates against Bush and the way he runs his government, after she began to start a group and rally many fellows she became a threat. The very next week as she drives away from an airport she just arrived in (it's night) her guarded limo is suddenly fired upon by hidden government soldiers. She and two others are killed, one of her bodyguards and a couple witnesses all said the same story, out of nowhere the car was suddenly getting shot up. Guess what, government has two files, one of what the French claimed that happened (supposedly the story of them randomly getting kileed) and one of what the American's claimed (which is that the govermnent thought the limo carried lethal weapons and tried to megaphone their car over three times before opening fire). The US only let people see the American version of the story and then, suddenly, for the first time in US history, a government file (the French version) is hacked and opened to the general public. It says the same as the American file and so everybody believes that we all think that the firing down of the limo was an accident. Suddenly the witnesses no longer count because everyone thinks that they think what we think, all because the govermnent invented these so called French files and opened them up...

That is our govermnent as we know it.

[River_Tam]

First of all, I cannot respect a man who repeatedly mauls the English language and seemingly makes no efforts to ammend this. Not only does it make him look stupid, but as the most commonly known figure of America (besides Michael Jackson), it makes us as a nation look stupid.

Secondly, I do not think that he and his administration were justified in a preemptive strike against Iraq. It seemed just a bit too close to him wanting to finish his fathers war. There is also the fact that even know, I don't think that the invasion can be justified. I don't accept the "we were trying to liberate them" defense. If that were the case, then there were and still are several countries that need our help much more than Iraq did.

Lastly, I just plain don't agree with a lot of the Republican platform. I think that it caters to big business more than it does to the people. Bush's personal views also strike me as unwholesome. Someone mentioned earlier the contridiction of his pro-life and pro death penalty stance. It does seem quite odd to me that he finds it morally sound to arge that all human life is sacred no matter what and then turn around and say that it is okay to kill criminals.

[Simplicitys_Gift]

pockybot

It's so sad, everyone is focused on "OMG BUSH!". No no no, it's d**k Cheney who is really pulling the strings. that crooked smile harbinger of nefarious corporate interests is just one of th emany heads the public should learn about.

Did you know Haliburton, under being CEO of Cheney, was caught selling tens of millions of dollars of illegal tradings to Iran, Iraq and Lybia(selling even nuclear triggers)? Then a couple years later when Cheney is vice president, he goes on tv and says "we need to invade Iraq! They could attack us within a matter of weeks!". And then he gives Haliburton a no bid contract on Iraq, after they blow the place up. And that is just a itny tiny part of it.

Not to mention the fact in September of 2000 Cheney said America needed a new pearl harbor so they could invade Iraq and imperialize the middle east.

It's really sad to see people so focused on Bush, when they can't even see what's really going on, and whose relaly running the show.

How many of ya folks know anything about d**k Cheney? Or how about Paul Wolfowitz? Donald Rumsfeld? Karl Rove?

I'm going to have to silence you if you keep leaking this kind of information.

Besides, how could you be against it? This will keep power with the freer nation.

[pockybot]

Simplicitys_Gift

pockybot

It's so sad, everyone is focused on "OMG BUSH!". No no no, it's d**k Cheney who is really pulling the strings. that crooked smile harbinger of nefarious corporate interests is just one of th emany heads the public should learn about.

Did you know Haliburton, under being CEO of Cheney, was caught selling tens of millions of dollars of illegal tradings to Iran, Iraq and Lybia(selling even nuclear triggers)? Then a couple years later when Cheney is vice president, he goes on tv and says "we need to invade Iraq! They could attack us within a matter of weeks!". And then he gives Haliburton a no bid contract on Iraq, after they blow the place up. And that is just a itny tiny part of it.

Not to mention the fact in September of 2000 Cheney said America needed a new pearl harbor so they could invade Iraq and imperialize the middle east.

It's really sad to see people so focused on Bush, when they can't even see what's really going on, and whose relaly running the show.

How many of ya folks know anything about d**k Cheney? Or how about Paul Wolfowitz? Donald Rumsfeld? Karl Rove?

I'm going to have to silence you if you keep leaking this kind of information.

Besides, how could you be against it? This will keep power with the freer nation.

Well, sarcasm aside...why am I one of the few people raising serious concerns, not the usual 15 year old "OmG liEK BUSH SUCKS!!1111 LOLzors"

Heck even at 15 I knew what my government was all about(complicit in the drug trade, assisting in coups and assasinations, funding terrorists, funding Saddam, war for oil and profit, etc)

[River_Tam]

pockybot

It's so sad, everyone is focused on "OMG BUSH!". No no no, it's d**k Cheney who is really pulling the strings. that crooked smile harbinger of nefarious corporate interests is just one of th emany heads the public should learn about.

Did you know Haliburton, under being CEO of Cheney, was caught selling tens of millions of dollars of illegal tradings to Iran, Iraq and Lybia(selling even nuclear triggers)? Then a couple years later when Cheney is vice president, he goes on tv and says "we need to invade Iraq! They could attack us within a matter of weeks!". And then he gives Haliburton a no bid contract on Iraq, after they blow the place up. And that is just a itny tiny part of it.

Not to mention the fact in September of 2000 Cheney said America needed a new pearl harbor so they could invade Iraq and imperialize the middle east.

It's really sad to see people so focused on Bush, when they can't even see what's really going on, and whose relaly running the show.

How many of ya folks know anything about d**k Cheney? Or how about Paul Wolfowitz? Donald Rumsfeld? Karl Rove?

I agree with the conclusion that d**k Cheney seems to be the more evil of the Tweedles.

[Mrs. Ringo Starr]

Dark_Tears

Kiron Albrithe

You don't need facts to hate someone.

You don't know him personally so how can you hate him.

Okay, here I have to draw the muthaf*ckin line. We, or rather I, do not hate Bush personally. He seems to be a good man. HOWEVER, his lack of leadership skills, proper stragetic capabilities, piss poor budgeting, and the reading level of a 5th grader causes me to hate his way of leading our country. We were one of the most respected nations in the world, but since his crusuade on terror, we have lost some allies, lost respect, and not to mention we have officially become the laughing stock of the UN. AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON AS TO WHY I DISLIKE BUSH..... *drumroll music*

He was asked in an interview in 2003 as to why he wanted to invade Iraq. His response? "He tried to kill my father"

[Eeser]

River_Tam

First of all, I cannot respect a man who repeatedly mauls the English language and seemingly makes no efforts to ammend this. Not only does it make him look stupid, but as the most commonly known figure of America (besides Michael Jackson), it makes us as a nation look stupid.

Secondly, I do not think that he and his administration were justified in a preemptive strike against Iraq. It seemed just a bit too close to him wanting to finish his fathers war. There is also the fact that even know, I don't think that the invasion can be justified. I don't accept the "we were trying to liberate them" defense. If that were the case, then there were and still are several countries that need our help much more than Iraq did.

Lastly, I just plain don't agree with a lot of the Republican platform. I think that it caters to big business more than it does to the people. Bush's personal views also strike me as unwholesome. Someone mentioned earlier the contridiction of his pro-life and pro death penalty stance. It does seem quite odd to me that he finds it morally sound to arge that all human life is sacred no matter what and then turn around and say that it is okay to kill criminals.

On the issue of the Republican platform, the same can be said about the Democratic platform as well. Over the years it has gradually changed to become similar to big buisness intrest, but then again any party would if they were recieveing campaign funds.

Though I will absolutely argree with you on your second point, which leaves me to my problems with Bush. To me it seems that Bush is more concern with the events in other countries than what is occuring in his own back yard. I guess after two hurricans, in N'Orleans and Beaumont, it got his attention.

[River_Tam]

Eeser

On the issue of the Republican platform, the same can be said about the Democratic platform as well. Over the years it has gradually changed to become similar to big buisness intrest, but then again any party would if they were recieveing campaign funds.

Though I will absolutely argree with you on your second point, which leaves me to my problems with Bush. To me it seems that Bush is more concern with the events in other countries than what is occuring in his own back yard. I guess after two hurricans, in N'Orleans and Beaumont, it got his attention.

Fully in agreement about the Democratic platform. This is why I am a weird blend of communist and socialist.

[AnimatedMartian]

Michaela Sage

Dark_Tears

Kiron Albrithe

You don't need facts to hate someone.

You don't know him personally so how can you hate him.

He was asked in an interview in 2003 as to why he wanted to invade Iraq. His response? "He tried to kill my father"

thats kinda what the iraqis did after the massecar, hmm

[AnimatedMartian]

pockybot

It's so sad, everyone is focused on "OMG BUSH!". No no no, it's d**k Cheney who is really pulling the strings. that crooked smile harbinger of nefarious corporate interests is just one of th emany heads the public should learn about.

Did you know Haliburton, under being CEO of Cheney, was caught selling tens of millions of dollars of illegal tradings to Iran, Iraq and Lybia(selling even nuclear triggers)? Then a couple years later when Cheney is vice president, he goes on tv and says "we need to invade Iraq! They could attack us within a matter of weeks!". And then he gives Haliburton a no bid contract on Iraq, after they blow the place up. And that is just a itny tiny part of it.

Not to mention the fact in September of 2000 Cheney said America needed a new pearl harbor so they could invade Iraq and imperialize the middle east.

It's really sad to see people so focused on Bush, when they can't even see what's really going on, and whose relaly running the show.

How many of ya folks know anything about d**k Cheney? Or how about Paul Wolfowitz? Donald Rumsfeld? Karl Rove?

Donald Rumfeld, interesting person,

Quote:

"Well, d**k, calibrate me, but the first thing I'd say is I don't believe you have the war plan -- (laughter) -- a fact which does not make me unhappy. (Laughter.)"
"Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not." (September 11, 2001)
"Learn to say "I don't know." If used when appropriate, it will be often."
"If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much."
"The goal is to be so capable of winning a war that you don't have to fight it."

some of his quotes, the 9/11 quote was directed at Bush about invading iraq or invading afganistan and a lotta other stuff

Quote:

Appointed defense secretary soon after President George W. Bush took office in 2001, Rumsfeld immediately announced a series of sweeping reviews intended to plot the transformation of the U.S. military into a lighter, more nimble force. These studies, led by Pentagon analyst Andrew Marshall, drew widespread resistance from the military services and members of Congress, who worried that Rumsfeld would cancel pet projects. (Eventually, he succeeded in killing the Army's Crusader howitzer and its Comanche armed scout helicopter.) Media reports in the summer of 2001 ran under headlines like "Will Rumsfeld Be The First Of Bush's Cabinet To Go?"

That changed with the military operations launched after the Sept. 11 terror attacks. Rumsfeld led the military planning and execution of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan and the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Rumsfeld pushed hard to send as small a force as possible to both conflicts, a concept codified as the Rumsfeld doctrine

i guess that doctrine didn't really work like planned. if you want a glass of water you don't use an eyedropper to fill it up.

[Samantha_Candy]

Tuggerfub Drum

cavan132:

I hate him as a Canadian because he had a fellow Canadian citizen murdered.

http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol8/news/bushcrimes.html
http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/28/death.row.diplomacy/

Not saying that I don't belive you but come on have you ever heared of a rumor? The site is F-A-K-E- Fake! I'm also a Canadian and I do have least respect for him but yah gotta admit there are alot of rumors. I can't belive I'm saying this but give the guy some slack!

[Samantha_Candy]

Samantha_Candy

Ya really want to know? Well its because when a part of his country was drowning in water he was off in some other place relaxing! He had no fricken clue what was going on and I even knew before him wich is quite sad. Also because when his country was getting bombed he was reading books to children! not even caring. Now thats only a little bit of why I hate him.

Yah gotta admit know one can reply to mine cause no one is lol