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Remy is back again....

Please don't kill me. D:	13.8%	[ 185 ]
I'll be nice, I promise.	23.2%	[ 310 ]
I'm back for now, we're all good right?	14.2%	[ 190 ]
Wait... What are you doing with that knife?	48.8%	[ 652 ]
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[Adversative]

Corrupted Coco

Adversative

Corrupted Coco

Also, doctor-patient confidentiality. It's illegal for your doctor to discuss your medical issues with anyone without your consent, regardless of who is paying for it..

Not if you're a minor. If you're a minor, your parents have the right to see any and all of your medical information, since they're the ones who need to consent to any treatment the doctor decides on. The only exception I've ever heard of is for birth control/abortion related treatments.

Who the hell are you? You can't even get HRT in the states until you're 18, and she's 19 anyway. Read the damn posts.

I'm a lurker, which means I occasionally miss info.

[Seraph of Thursday]

I went to a trans support group yesterday, it was cool. I always come out of those feeling like something's rubbed off on me though, lol. The groups just aren't for me I guess.

[Derek Swindle]

I knew a trans-person of many years who got midway through their long-sought hormone treatment and doubled back on it, because the more they became passable as male the more "anonymous" they felt, and figured they'd get more attention from people as a girl. Sexuality swapped too, started dating boys, ditched their girlfriend, etc.

Soured me on the notion of it all to be honest. I can get behind people not identifying with their biological gender due to their inner chemistry or being born intersex or whatever, but changing their mind, gender and sexuality halfway through treatment because they didn't feel special anymore cheapens everything I'd been told about how and why people are trans.

Was this person ever really trans, or just someone who wanted to turn heads? Does this happen often? I lost a lot of respect for the person, and I'm trying not to lose respect for all trans-people by extension.

[Seraph of Thursday]

Derek Swindle

Was this person ever really trans, or just someone who wanted to turn heads? Does this happen often? I lost a lot of respect for the person, and I'm trying not to lose respect for all trans-people by extension.

It definitely doesn't happen often. The person could be genuinely trans, but afraid of the change, or a cisperson who has issues elsewhere and thought transitioning would fix them, but didn't. We can't know. Figuring out one's gender is an extremely complicated task for many, and combined with other issues pressing on, the fears associated and the stigma transpeople have, it gets emotionally very taxing. It is very much possible the person in question didn't get enough help, either with their identity and transition or with their feeling of insignificance in general. Transsexuals don't transition for attention. I'd gladly take their anonymity in exchange for any potential attention I'll ever gain through this.

edit: Thank you for not labeling us all through one person's errors, for realising that this could happen, and for reaching out to correct the mistake before it happens.

[Jason0690]

Dandrogyny

Looking at that thing makes me think my vagoo looks weird.
But maybe it's just that thing that looks weird. >.>
Idk

Being that I've seen vulvas of three women(without clothing and IRL, more in porn, lol), that...plastic pooter just looks a bit weird :p.

One of the reasons could be that's it's a set of disembodied labia. That's always odd ._.

[Derek Swindle]

Oblivion Blades

Derek Swindle

Was this person ever really trans, or just someone who wanted to turn heads? Does this happen often? I lost a lot of respect for the person, and I'm trying not to lose respect for all trans-people by extension.

It definitely doesn't happen often. The person could be genuinely trans, but afraid of the change, or a cisperson who has issues elsewhere and thought transitioning would fix them, but didn't. We can't know. Figuring out one's gender is an extremely complicated task for many, and combined with other issues pressing on, the fears associated and the stigma transpeople have, it gets emotionally very taxing. It is very much possible the person in question didn't get enough help, either with their identity and transition or with their feeling of insignificance in general. Transsexuals don't transition for attention. I'd gladly take their anonymity in exchange for any potential attention I'll ever gain through this.

edit: Thank you for not labeling us all through one person's errors, for realising that this could happen, and for reaching out to correct the mistake before it happens.

It was an odd turn of events. In a way, they were my "ambassador" for transsexuals, in that I was very ignorant of the subject before I met them, and they were very understanding and informative about it all. To me, they embodied it, and were a good spokesman.

They would speak out on the matter in public, attend events and meet-ups and all sorts, offer help to others (just like people do in this thread, but I don't think they ever joined Gaia), and this was part of their life for a long time. It wasn't something they hid, decided overnight or shyed away from, and I admired that in them.

But yeah. All that has changed now, and it changed a few years back to boot. They're happy as a straight female now. I suppose I should be happy for them, they're in a comfortable position, but they were my anchor to this aspect of the human condition, and ended up defying everything I thought I'd learned from them as if they were dropping a fad that was no longer popular.

[Seraph of Thursday]

Derek Swindle

It was an odd turn of events. In a way, they were my "ambassador" for transsexuals, in that I was very ignorant of the subject before I met them, and they were very understanding and informative about it all. To me, they embodied it, and were a good spokesman.

They would speak out on the matter in public, attend events and meet-ups and all sorts, offer help to others (just like people do in this thread, but I don't think they ever joined Gaia), and this was part of their life for a long time. It wasn't something they hid, decided overnight or shyed away from, and I admired that in them.

But yeah. All that has changed now, and it changed a few years back to boot. They're happy as a straight female now. I suppose I should be happy for them, they're in a comfortable position, but they were my anchor to this aspect of the human condition, and ended up defying everything I thought I'd learned from them as if they were dropping a fad that was no longer popular.

That's quite odd. They clearly believed it themselves but something didn't quite match, whatever it was in the end. How far along they were into transitioning, and what steps did they take to get on hormones? Was there counceling and such beforehand?
Also, how long did you know them/do you know how long they'd identified as male?

[Derek Swindle]

Oblivion Blades

Derek Swindle

It was an odd turn of events. In a way, they were my "ambassador" for transsexuals, in that I was very ignorant of the subject before I met them, and they were very understanding and informative about it all. To me, they embodied it, and were a good spokesman.

They would speak out on the matter in public, attend events and meet-ups and all sorts, offer help to others (just like people do in this thread, but I don't think they ever joined Gaia), and this was part of their life for a long time. It wasn't something they hid, decided overnight or shyed away from, and I admired that in them.

But yeah. All that has changed now, and it changed a few years back to boot. They're happy as a straight female now. I suppose I should be happy for them, they're in a comfortable position, but they were my anchor to this aspect of the human condition, and ended up defying everything I thought I'd learned from them as if they were dropping a fad that was no longer popular.

That's quite odd. They clearly believed it themselves but something didn't quite match, whatever it was in the end. How far along they were into transitioning, and what steps did they take to get on hormones? Was there counceling and such beforehand?
Also, how long did you know them/do you know how long they'd identified as male?

Knew them since mid teenage years, and they'd always identified as male. I'm not super clear on the treatment, but I know they were evaluated quite a few times with counceling, and they'd been on the hormones for... 6 months(?) when they abandoned the whole thing. Early twenties by this point.

She was quite open about why she was choosing to stay (or I guess turning?) female, that she felt invisible when passable as male, and that she liked the attention she was recieving from guys online when she "tested the water" so to speak identifying as a woman. She made the change, shook up her life, and I guess she's happy with it for now.

It strikes me as shallow, especially after how much they let this BE their personality. I don't know if the meetings they had with professionals highlighted this as a possible outcome, but they had me (and I think themself) convinced for near enough a decade.

[Seraph of Thursday]

Derek Swindle

Knew them since mid teenage years, and they'd always identified as male. I'm not super clear on the treatment, but I know they were evaluated quite a few times with counceling, and they'd been on the hormones for... 6 months(?) when they abandoned the whole thing. Early twenties by this point.

She was quite open about why she was choosing to stay (or I guess turning?) female, that she felt invisible when passable as male, and that she liked the attention she was recieving from guys online when she "tested the water" so to speak identifying as a woman. She made the change, shook up her life, and I guess she's happy with it for now.

It strikes me as shallow, especially after how much they let this BE their personality. I don't know if the meetings they had with professionals highlighted this as a possible outcome, but they had me (and I think themself) convinced for near enough a decade.

Wow. I honestly think there was more to it than just feeling invisible, or at least that the invisibility wasn't simply lack of attention but more of a combination of negative attention and reduction in positive attention. I definitely sort of miss the special treatment and positive attention I got in certain circles simply for my sex, most importantly in World of Warcraft, but it was worth giving up in exchange for being able to actually feel comfortable with myself. There's a huge cultural gap between the sexes in some aspects, however, and I can see how that might come as a shock to someone. Men generally do not attract as much special attention anywhere.
I've always been the oddball and to be honest, there's nothing I desire more than just ********] fit in for once, so I can't really say I understand her but I can at least try to understand that point of view.

All that said, usually these sort of... relapses? Changes back? Sudden changes of mind? Well, they generally don't last very long for transsexuals, because pretending, no matter how convenient, is extremely hard on one's psyche. There's also always the possibility that her gender identity did change - it actually happens to some people, as freaky as it sounds. Or, again, she had some other issue she thought was transsexuality but turned out not to be.

[Stegsie]

Dandrogyny

Wow, I thought I was small at 28AA. As in the 28 part. O.O

I'm scared mine might grow to a full A, which would really suck. I'm trying to make sure I don't eat too much soy or dairy and I'm trying to get more exercise. In your case that's not nearly as helpful, though. >.<

And every time you ask him for another vanishing act,
he half smiles as if to say...

Yeah, I'm just kind of tiny all the way around. XD

Them growing really sucks though. At least you can try and combat growth with other things, good luck with that and I hope it works! Although worse comes to worse you'd still be a candidate for keyhole, right?

And to anyone from NY (if there's anyone else here from that area) do you have a recommendation as to an LGBT health center to go to? I just saw my gender therapist for the first time today and she suggested I start researching them so I can start T.

..."Whatever you want,
whatever you want,
whatever you want is fine by me."

[Derek Swindle]

Oblivion Blades

Derek Swindle

Knew them since mid teenage years, and they'd always identified as male. I'm not super clear on the treatment, but I know they were evaluated quite a few times with counceling, and they'd been on the hormones for... 6 months(?) when they abandoned the whole thing. Early twenties by this point.

She was quite open about why she was choosing to stay (or I guess turning?) female, that she felt invisible when passable as male, and that she liked the attention she was recieving from guys online when she "tested the water" so to speak identifying as a woman. She made the change, shook up her life, and I guess she's happy with it for now.

It strikes me as shallow, especially after how much they let this BE their personality. I don't know if the meetings they had with professionals highlighted this as a possible outcome, but they had me (and I think themself) convinced for near enough a decade.

Wow. I honestly think there was more to it than just feeling invisible, or at least that the invisibility wasn't simply lack of attention but more of a combination of negative attention and reduction in positive attention. I definitely sort of miss the special treatment and positive attention I got in certain circles simply for my sex, most importantly in World of Warcraft, but it was worth giving up in exchange for being able to actually feel comfortable with myself. There's a huge cultural gap between the sexes in some aspects, however, and I can see how that might come as a shock to someone. Men generally do not attract as much special attention anywhere.
I've always been the oddball and to be honest, there's nothing I desire more than just ********] fit in for once, so I can't really say I understand her but I can at least try to understand that point of view.

All that said, usually these sort of... relapses? Changes back? Sudden changes of mind? Well, they generally don't last very long for transsexuals, because pretending, no matter how convenient, is extremely hard on one's psyche. There's also always the possibility that her gender identity did change - it actually happens to some people, as freaky as it sounds. Or, again, she had some other issue she thought was transsexuality but turned out not to be.

You hit the nail on the head with WoW. That's where this started too; while identifying as male, they made a female character, got a lot of male attention from the fanbase, and basically ran with it into IRL.

I didn't think the "lapse" would last either, and I was especially worried that the sexual side of things would be traumatic, but... so far, so good?

Thanks for hearing me out and providing another opinion. smile

[Seraph of Thursday]

Derek Swindle

You hit the nail on the head with WoW. That's where this started too; while identifying as male, they made a female character, got a lot of male attention from the fanbase, and basically ran with it into IRL.

I didn't think the "lapse" would last either, and I was especially worried that the sexual side of things would be traumatic, but... so far, so good?

Thanks for hearing me out and providing another opinion. smile

Really? Haha, ouch. Well, sad truth is that WoW doesn't extend to irl, and a person's gender won't make them special in the long run. I'm fairly sure she knows this too. Eventually her "specialness" will wear off, one way or another. If that's the thing she's after, it's not going to end well.

You're welcome.

[Honeydew Haiku]

Derek Swindle

Oblivion Blades

Derek Swindle

Knew them since mid teenage years, and they'd always identified as male. I'm not super clear on the treatment, but I know they were evaluated quite a few times with counceling, and they'd been on the hormones for... 6 months(?) when they abandoned the whole thing. Early twenties by this point.

She was quite open about why she was choosing to stay (or I guess turning?) female, that she felt invisible when passable as male, and that she liked the attention she was recieving from guys online when she "tested the water" so to speak identifying as a woman. She made the change, shook up her life, and I guess she's happy with it for now.

It strikes me as shallow, especially after how much they let this BE their personality. I don't know if the meetings they had with professionals highlighted this as a possible outcome, but they had me (and I think themself) convinced for near enough a decade.

Wow. I honestly think there was more to it than just feeling invisible, or at least that the invisibility wasn't simply lack of attention but more of a combination of negative attention and reduction in positive attention. I definitely sort of miss the special treatment and positive attention I got in certain circles simply for my sex, most importantly in World of Warcraft, but it was worth giving up in exchange for being able to actually feel comfortable with myself. There's a huge cultural gap between the sexes in some aspects, however, and I can see how that might come as a shock to someone. Men generally do not attract as much special attention anywhere.
I've always been the oddball and to be honest, there's nothing I desire more than just ********] fit in for once, so I can't really say I understand her but I can at least try to understand that point of view.

All that said, usually these sort of... relapses? Changes back? Sudden changes of mind? Well, they generally don't last very long for transsexuals, because pretending, no matter how convenient, is extremely hard on one's psyche. There's also always the possibility that her gender identity did change - it actually happens to some people, as freaky as it sounds. Or, again, she had some other issue she thought was transsexuality but turned out not to be.

You hit the nail on the head with WoW. That's where this started too; while identifying as male, they made a female character, got a lot of male attention from the fanbase, and basically ran with it into IRL.

I didn't think the "lapse" would last either, and I was especially worried that the sexual side of things would be traumatic, but... so far, so good?

Thanks for hearing me out and providing another opinion. smile

I (of course) don't know if your friend is trans or not, but honestly, it sounds like they have other issues they need to work on. I mean, it just sounds like they have an attention-seeking problem, not necessarily a gender problem.

Stegash0ta

Dandrogyny

Wow, I thought I was small at 28AA. As in the 28 part. O.O

I'm scared mine might grow to a full A, which would really suck. I'm trying to make sure I don't eat too much soy or dairy and I'm trying to get more exercise. In your case that's not nearly as helpful, though. >.<

And every time you ask him for another vanishing act,
he half smiles as if to say...

Yeah, I'm just kind of tiny all the way around. XD

Them growing really sucks though. At least you can try and combat growth with other things, good luck with that and I hope it works! Although worse comes to worse you'd still be a candidate for keyhole, right?

And to anyone from NY (if there's anyone else here from that area) do you have a recommendation as to an LGBT health center to go to? I just saw my gender therapist for the first time today and she suggested I start researching them so I can start T.

..."Whatever you want,
whatever you want,
whatever you want is fine by me."

I live in New York too! ...but I don't know anything about LGBT health centers. Sorry :c
Also, you guys complaining about your AAs. I wish I was that small D:

[Desideraht]

Derek Swindle

I knew a trans-person of many years who got midway through their long-sought hormone treatment and doubled back on it, because the more they became passable as male the more "anonymous" they felt, and figured they'd get more attention from people as a girl. Sexuality swapped too, started dating boys, ditched their girlfriend, etc.

Soured me on the notion of it all to be honest. I can get behind people not identifying with their biological gender due to their inner chemistry or being born intersex or whatever, but changing their mind, gender and sexuality halfway through treatment because they didn't feel special anymore cheapens everything I'd been told about how and why people are trans.

Was this person ever really trans, or just someone who wanted to turn heads? Does this happen often? I lost a lot of respect for the person, and I'm trying not to lose respect for all trans-people by extension.

Lol... My guess is no, she never was really transsexual, but maybe transgender. But the fact that she goes all the way back to female... maybe not even that.

I saw a girl do this too, except no HRT. And now she's making a big deal out of being a lesbian.

Btw being trans makes me feel ugly and disabled. It does not make me feel special.