Alexander J Luthor
Ratttking
Alexander J Luthor
Ratttking
Hmph, so much for freedom of speech.
That is gorgeous. In what way does it look more Chippewa than Sioux? Something to do with the feather doodad? Isn't it great that they're still holding a grudge centuries later? That's worthy of the Scots themselves, the type of Scot who still won't speak to a Campbell because of something nasty that clan did in
1692.
*headdesk*
You have nothing to be ashamed of, you didn't hunt them yourself. If we're going to feel bad about every mean thing our ancestors ever did we won't have time to do anything else. Should I feel bad that my Scottish ancestors were forcibly removed to Ireland by my English ancestors? Obviously each and every Englishman and woman had a direct hand in that. Other half of the family is German and we know how well they got along with the British, bombing each other back and forth.
Uh, how is Chippewa a shortened form of Ojibwe? Same number of syllables in each word and Chippewa has more letters.
You really had never heard the word before you were a teen? You said earlier that it gets thrown about a lot where you live, is that a relatively new thing then? I thought you were in your early 20s, so for a very old word to go from one you never heard to one you hear a lot in only a few years seems odd.
I thought squaw meant wife before now, but that's only sometimes when it is used as a suffix, very interesting looking up its etymology. The Abenaki word for queen, Kinjamesiskua, literally means King James' wife - the very badly dressed Anne of Denmark. Wonder if they use the same word for drag queens.
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Oh my god, that's terrible. Does anyone even know what the argument was about?
Oh no, it's not about what my ancestors did. This is one of the recent councils who supposedly started crap up. It originally started with Sioux members being insulted, yet in government documents, on maps, by people, the Lakota Sioux are called Sioux. Mainly because they are the descendents of three tribes; the Lakota, Nakota, and Dakota, and it was incredibly offensive to call them by the wrong name back in the day.
Chip-pewa (slide through the 'e' so there are two syllables) and O-jib-we (click a bit on the 'j' and 'uh' the end) are the same thing. If you speak them in a French accent it's like shortening Josephine to Josie.
I had heard of the team, and it was actually one of the high school's mascots before they were forced to change it back in the 90s, I think. (makes me wonder why the NFL gets away with it for so long) I never really paid attention to racism as a kid because it never seemed like a problem to me, until a friend of mine started dating a guy from farther north, and he had d**k friends who'd call her a redskin and insult him for dating her.
It's been over ten years? Now I have a wider social circle and I speak out more often. Also, as an awkward child, people were more interested in harassing me for other things, and my few friends were raised like I was; we'd swear with each other, but neeeeever in front of family. I literally got smacked in the face for flipping off a disposable camera on a class trip because "it's rude to the men and women who have to develop them."
lol. It does have a lot of meanings, but that's why it's offensive when non-natives use it and not when natives do. Peter Pan doesn't help the situation. One of my favorites movies has one of my father's most hated scenes in it.
Well, yeah, a group of Campbells killed 38 MacDonalds who had offered them hospitality and then burned down their homes which caused 40 women and children to die from exposure. It's called
the Massacre of Glencoe. The hotel with the charming sign at the front desk is located in Glencoe. Seriously, what have they got against
hawkers?
I had read that the Dakota language does not include the L sound, while the Lakota one does. Never heard of the Nakota before now.
OK, 10 years seems like a much shorter period of time to me. Time seems to speed up as I age...
Which version of Peter Pan? I adored the one with Jason Isaacs as Hook and Mr. Darling. Tinkerbell was a proper trashy b***h like she was in the books in that version, not the cloyingly sweet little imp she's usually presented as. Don't think they'll ever have Peter the right age, he appeared to be around 5 or 6 in the books - still had all his baby teeth and was smaller than any of the Lost Boys - but it might be hard to find a child actor that young who could pull off such a complex role. I'm guessing it's a scene with Tiger Lily that sets off your dad?
That... That's terrible. Holy crap that's a grudge well deserved.
They are separate tribes, but they were so similar people usually lumped Dakotans and Nakotans together anyway.
Disney, yup. "Squaw, get 'em firewood!" That ticked him off quick. That whole song, the stereotypes, the exaggerated drawing. The drawing doesn't bug me too much, though, when you look at it and realize that the only characters not exaggerated are the ones who are supposed to be real; Wendy, Michael, John, and their parents.
Yes it was deserved, but when does it end? This happened almost 325 years ago, every Campbell who took part is long since turned to dust. There are people who miss out eating perfectly tasty soup because it is called Campbell's. My BF dated a girl with the last name Campbell when he was in hs, his mom tweaked when she found out, and he never told his grandmother her full name for fear of how much it would upset her.
Hmm. I've been reading about the Nakota. They split off so long ago into two more or less distinct tribes that their languages are barely or not at all intelligible to each other or to Dakota and Lakota people. Not a lot of speakers either, less than 200 for one of them.
Oh, the cartoon from the 50s. So long since I've seen it. Hook was a bit exaggerated in that one, he looked like a Hapsburg but he was supposed to be from the royal Stewart line and look exactly like Charles II of England except for his eyes which were bright blue. Did you see the live-action version from the early 2000s?
edit: just watched that clip, it's somewhat painful to do so, but I thought it was funny that the one being called a squaw is Wendy.
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