The Abortion Debate

[Beatrix the catgirl]

XchiseX

If a woman wants her baby removed i think that is fine as long as it has no heart if it has developed a heart i think that would be murder in a way so if a woman was to get a abortion she should so long as it does not have a beating pumping blood heart

Why does a heart make the difference between murder and not murder.

And murder is a specific legal term and abortion doesn't fit that term.

[Issabee]

Here's a senario:

A fire breaks out at a fertility clinic. You have either the choice to save one 3 year old child, or a petri dish containing 10 seven day old zygotes. Do you choose to save the life of one, or the lives of 10? If you believe zygotes and already-born children are the same, then wouldn't it be better to save 10 lives rather than just one? If you choose to save the child rather than the zygotes, it just shows that there is a difference, and that the life of one born person is more important than the lives of several unborn zygotes.

[cuban2704]

I feel that it is a choice. I see both sides. I see that you wouldnt want to kill a living thing and then again i see that some woman have that choice to have it.

[KraZGurl]

XchiseX

If a woman wants her baby removed i think that is fine as long as it has no heart if it has developed a heart i think that would be murder in a way so if a woman was to get a abortion she should so long as it does not have a beating pumping blood heart

By the time it has a fully developed heart, abortions are only done to save the mother, the fetus is dead/dying, or the fetus is deformed.

And murder means "The Illigal killing of a born person with malicious aforthought.

[XchiseX]

Beatrix the catgirl

XchiseX

If a woman wants her baby removed i think that is fine as long as it has no heart if it has developed a heart i think that would be murder in a way so if a woman was to get a abortion she should so long as it does not have a beating pumping blood heart

Why does a heart make the difference between murder and not murder.

And murder is a specific legal term and abortion doesn't fit that term.

Well see if someone where to rip my heart out i would have no life for the fact that i would have no blood supply. I would asume that once the baby has a heart it is in a way more living than it was when it hadnt developed one. Besides i said in a way not it was deffinatly a murder

[Beatrix the catgirl]

XchiseX

Beatrix the catgirl

XchiseX

If a woman wants her baby removed i think that is fine as long as it has no heart if it has developed a heart i think that would be murder in a way so if a woman was to get a abortion she should so long as it does not have a beating pumping blood heart

Why does a heart make the difference between murder and not murder.

And murder is a specific legal term and abortion doesn't fit that term.

Well see if someone where to rip my heart out i would have no life for the fact that i would have no blood supply. I would asume that once the baby has a heart it is in a way more living than it was when it hadnt developed one. Besides i said in a way not it was deffinatly a murder

A fetus develops its heart early on in the pregnancy, and not all women find out their pregnant before that happens.

But just because it has a heart, doesn't mean it's developed. When it first gets its heartbeat, the fetus still is not capable of feeling pain and is still not sentinent.

[Treacherous Desire]

Issabee

Here's a senario:

A fire breaks out at a fertility clinic. You have either the choice to save one 3 year old child, or a petri dish containing 10 seven day old zygotes. Do you choose to save the life of one, or the lives of 10? If you believe zygotes and already-born children are the same, then wouldn't it be better to save 10 lives rather than just one? If you choose to save the child rather than the zygotes, it just shows that there is a difference, and that the life of one born person is more important than the lives of several unborn zygotes.

Well.

I, for one, save the three year old.

[Beatrix the catgirl]

Treacherous Desire

Issabee

Here's a senario:

A fire breaks out at a fertility clinic. You have either the choice to save one 3 year old child, or a petri dish containing 10 seven day old zygotes. Do you choose to save the life of one, or the lives of 10? If you believe zygotes and already-born children are the same, then wouldn't it be better to save 10 lives rather than just one? If you choose to save the child rather than the zygotes, it just shows that there is a difference, and that the life of one born person is more important than the lives of several unborn zygotes.

Well.

I, for one, save the three year old.

Me too.

[Treacherous Desire]

Any pro-lifers present who wish to comment on Romania's former bans?

I'd really like to see what they have to say about Ceausescu...

[KraZGurl]

Issabee

Here's a senario:

A fire breaks out at a fertility clinic. You have either the choice to save one 3 year old child, or a petri dish containing 10 seven day old zygotes. Do you choose to save the life of one, or the lives of 10? If you believe zygotes and already-born children are the same, then wouldn't it be better to save 10 lives rather than just one? If you choose to save the child rather than the zygotes, it just shows that there is a difference, and that the life of one born person is more important than the lives of several unborn zygotes.

I would save the life of the thinking, feeling, AWARE three year old. He would suffer, unlike the zygotes, which are not thinking, feeling, aware.

[XchiseX]

I did not in fact say it was out right murder

[Beatrix the catgirl]

XchiseX

I did not in fact say it was out right murder

I realize that. You said you think it would be murder. But it would not, because it does not fit the definition of murder.

[XchiseX]

KraZGurl

XchiseX

If a woman wants her baby removed i think that is fine as long as it has no heart if it has developed a heart i think that would be murder in a way so if a woman was to get a abortion she should so long as it does not have a beating pumping blood heart

By the time it has a fully developed heart, abortions are only done to save the mother, the fetus is dead/dying, or the fetus is deformed.

And murder means "The Illigal killing of a born person with malicious aforthought.

i should have underlined mureder in a way because people seem too skipp over that part

[Beatrix the catgirl]

XchiseX

KraZGurl

XchiseX

If a woman wants her baby removed i think that is fine as long as it has no heart if it has developed a heart i think that would be murder in a way so if a woman was to get a abortion she should so long as it does not have a beating pumping blood heart

By the time it has a fully developed heart, abortions are only done to save the mother, the fetus is dead/dying, or the fetus is deformed.

And murder means "The Illigal killing of a born person with malicious aforthought.

i should have underlined mureder in a way because people seem too skipp over that part

The problem is, there is no "murder in a way."

It's either murder, or it's not murder.

[Treacherous Desire]

XchiseX

KraZGurl

XchiseX

If a woman wants her baby removed i think that is fine as long as it has no heart if it has developed a heart i think that would be murder in a way so if a woman was to get a abortion she should so long as it does not have a beating pumping blood heart

By the time it has a fully developed heart, abortions are only done to save the mother, the fetus is dead/dying, or the fetus is deformed.

And murder means "The Illigal killing of a born person with malicious aforthought.

i should have underlined mureder in a way because people seem too skipp over that part

Not to be rude but I'd like to know how something 'In a way'.

Like...

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I'm just a little confused.