Linda Lee Danvers
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- Posted: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:32:57 +0000
Well, here we are 7 months later, and DC's decision to change Wonder Woman is causing ripples. For those of you who might have missed it (is that possible?), here is Wonder Woman's new costume.
That's right, a cropped jacket, bustierre, fingerless gloves and bootpants are the outfit that says "2010 and beyond" for Wonder Woman, according to DC.
And so, after all the discussion we've had in this thread, and I do hope there's more after this, I'd like to hold a contest.
DESIGN A NEW COSTUME FOR WONDER WOMAN
Here's the deal. I don't care if you're graphically inclined or if you can only draw stick figures. Before July 10, post your OWN proposal for a new Wonder Woman costume here on this thread. On the 10th, I'll look them over, and award the ones I like best a Monthly Collectible letter.
Other sites have hosted awesome "Draw Batgirl" and "Redesign Supergirl" memes. I'd like people to think of this in that spirit. Nothing is verboten, and I'll reward you handsomely.
That's right, I'm practically begging to stick 100,000 gold in your pocket. No rules other than it has to be TOS-appropriate and posted before the 10th.
It'd also be nice if you give a little explanation WHY you designed her costume the way you wanted.
That's right, a cropped jacket, bustierre, fingerless gloves and bootpants are the outfit that says "2010 and beyond" for Wonder Woman, according to DC.
And so, after all the discussion we've had in this thread, and I do hope there's more after this, I'd like to hold a contest.
DESIGN A NEW COSTUME FOR WONDER WOMAN
Here's the deal. I don't care if you're graphically inclined or if you can only draw stick figures. Before July 10, post your OWN proposal for a new Wonder Woman costume here on this thread. On the 10th, I'll look them over, and award the ones I like best a Monthly Collectible letter.
Other sites have hosted awesome "Draw Batgirl" and "Redesign Supergirl" memes. I'd like people to think of this in that spirit. Nothing is verboten, and I'll reward you handsomely.
That's right, I'm practically begging to stick 100,000 gold in your pocket. No rules other than it has to be TOS-appropriate and posted before the 10th.
It'd also be nice if you give a little explanation WHY you designed her costume the way you wanted.
Original Post
For those of you who weren't around in 2005, this is a bit of a sequel to a thread I put forth in that year about "Fixing Batman." At that point in time, we were emboiled in Infinite Crisis. Batman was, to put things frankly, an unrelatable jerk. A lot of people were unhappy with how Batman was being portrayed, and in the light of the upcoming status quo change, we put forth our ideas of what we wanted to see happen to Batman coming out of Infinite Crisis.
Shortly afterward, Gaia suffered a Data Migration Crisis, and that thread seems to have vanished in the dust. But it was to many peoples' surprises that, as time went on, the ideas and themes we wanted to see show up in Batman came true! Batman certainly seems to be in a better, more entertaining place now than he was in the days of telling Superman that no one loves him and siccing Brother Eye on the other heroes.
Yes, even with his currently being dead.
But enough about Batman. He had his turn for the grousing pit. This is about Wonder Woman.
DC has been struggling for years (decades~) to find a niche for Wonder Woman. Creator after creator have taken her, remolded her, grounded her, made her more celestial, changed her costume, removed her powers, given her more powers, rewritten her history, changed it back, changed it again and struggled to keep comic-dom's foremost female superhero from the cancellation stamp.
In a few months, Wonder Woman will celebrate her 600th issue. To facilitate the renumbering of her current series to this end, Dan Didio asked that he receive 600 postcards from Wonder Woman fans.
"Justice League of America" has around 100,000 readers each month. Dan received about 800 postcards. Although enough to fulfill his quota, it really was rather apathetic that Diana couldn't even break the 1/100th mark of people who read about her every month.
Why don't people read Wonder Woman, which is currently selling about 27,000 issues of her own comic (and falling each month)?
To put it in simple terms, Wonder Woman isn't relatable.
Superman puts on a suit and tie, goes to a daily job, kisses his lovely wife on the lips and goes home on weekends for pot roast and mashed potatoes with his mom in the country. Batman worries about filling his predecessor's large boots and tries to deal with an ADD kid chock full of self-entitlement.
Wonder Woman....well, what is Wonder Woman? It hasn't been consistent even within the last 3 years. Is she a naive visitor to our culture? A super-secret agent? A goddess? A warrior princess? That gal who lets the giant talking gorillas crash at her house?
Wonder Woman is nice. Wonder Woman is powerful. Wonder Woman is sexy. But none of these traits give her a characteristic that you can relate to when reading. It's difficult to put an issue of Wonder Woman down and go "Wow, I know just how she feels!"
Wonder Woman is an odd mixture of iconography. She is, of course, the go-to girl for fetishistic fanservice in comic-dom. Everyone knows that Wonder Woman and sexual bondage are intertwined. And yet, also, she's supposed to be an empowering icon for females, a woman who does man's work without compromising her femininity. And she's also the balloon-chested, scantily-clad template for comic superheroine-dom. But is there anything else that can or should be there?
Please note, this isn't about bashing Wonder Woman's writers or artists, or people who ARE reading the comic (like myself). What I am asking here, is....what would you do to make Wonder Woman worth reading for you? What would you like to see in her comic that would fix her, make her the must-have pull on your list? What would turn Wonder Woman from an abstract contradiction of iconography into a full-fleshed person?
I'd like to see some other peoples' reactions before I post my own idea on the matter. 3nodding
Shortly afterward, Gaia suffered a Data Migration Crisis, and that thread seems to have vanished in the dust. But it was to many peoples' surprises that, as time went on, the ideas and themes we wanted to see show up in Batman came true! Batman certainly seems to be in a better, more entertaining place now than he was in the days of telling Superman that no one loves him and siccing Brother Eye on the other heroes.
Yes, even with his currently being dead.
But enough about Batman. He had his turn for the grousing pit. This is about Wonder Woman.
DC has been struggling for years (decades~) to find a niche for Wonder Woman. Creator after creator have taken her, remolded her, grounded her, made her more celestial, changed her costume, removed her powers, given her more powers, rewritten her history, changed it back, changed it again and struggled to keep comic-dom's foremost female superhero from the cancellation stamp.
In a few months, Wonder Woman will celebrate her 600th issue. To facilitate the renumbering of her current series to this end, Dan Didio asked that he receive 600 postcards from Wonder Woman fans.
"Justice League of America" has around 100,000 readers each month. Dan received about 800 postcards. Although enough to fulfill his quota, it really was rather apathetic that Diana couldn't even break the 1/100th mark of people who read about her every month.
Why don't people read Wonder Woman, which is currently selling about 27,000 issues of her own comic (and falling each month)?
To put it in simple terms, Wonder Woman isn't relatable.
Superman puts on a suit and tie, goes to a daily job, kisses his lovely wife on the lips and goes home on weekends for pot roast and mashed potatoes with his mom in the country. Batman worries about filling his predecessor's large boots and tries to deal with an ADD kid chock full of self-entitlement.
Wonder Woman....well, what is Wonder Woman? It hasn't been consistent even within the last 3 years. Is she a naive visitor to our culture? A super-secret agent? A goddess? A warrior princess? That gal who lets the giant talking gorillas crash at her house?
Wonder Woman is nice. Wonder Woman is powerful. Wonder Woman is sexy. But none of these traits give her a characteristic that you can relate to when reading. It's difficult to put an issue of Wonder Woman down and go "Wow, I know just how she feels!"
Wonder Woman is an odd mixture of iconography. She is, of course, the go-to girl for fetishistic fanservice in comic-dom. Everyone knows that Wonder Woman and sexual bondage are intertwined. And yet, also, she's supposed to be an empowering icon for females, a woman who does man's work without compromising her femininity. And she's also the balloon-chested, scantily-clad template for comic superheroine-dom. But is there anything else that can or should be there?
Please note, this isn't about bashing Wonder Woman's writers or artists, or people who ARE reading the comic (like myself). What I am asking here, is....what would you do to make Wonder Woman worth reading for you? What would you like to see in her comic that would fix her, make her the must-have pull on your list? What would turn Wonder Woman from an abstract contradiction of iconography into a full-fleshed person?
I'd like to see some other peoples' reactions before I post my own idea on the matter. 3nodding