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Lysine

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:26 pm


So, I've noticed something. A lot of Wiccans believe that there is one God and one Goddess, and a lot believe that there are many deities.
I personally believe that there are infinite Gods and Goddesses - a deity for every single thing.
So, I was curious how many deities you (yes, you) believe there are.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:01 pm


I believe in the one god that created everything (Akasha), Akasha created the Lord and Lady, kinda how the Christians god created Jesus and Mary. lol. Those are the only gods I believe in, but I do believe in nature spirits, and such. O.o I know I don't explain very well. XD

Choir-Angel


The gypsy Queen

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:06 pm


Choir-Angel
I believe in the one god that created everything (Akasha), Akasha created the Lord and Lady, kinda how the Christians god created Jesus and Mary. lol. Those are the only gods I believe in, but I do believe in nature spirits, and such. O.o I know I don't explain very well. XD


i have never herd of that... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:51 pm


lol. That's fine, i'm not sure if I explained it so well in my first post. Well, it's more like the first element. From which the Lord and Lady and all other elements sprang. Kind of the creator of the universe. I'm not positive how to explain it. lol. I don't know if you would consider Akasha a god, you could, it's kind of the spirit from which everything was created...I'm rambling, and I apologize. lol. O.o

Choir-Angel


LadySorcha

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:59 pm


Hm, well, the way I always thought of it, there is ultimately one God and one Goddess, each with thousands of representation here on Earth as prescribed by one culture or another. So, say if you worship Bastet, she is one of the Egyptian representations of the Maiden Goddess form, much like her Grecian counterpart, Artemis, or the Roman goddess Diana and their Hawaiian cousin, Pele. Kind of makes sense to me because all cultures around the world have gods and goddesses that adhere to the basic divine archetypes of the triple Goddess and the triple aspects of the God.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:39 pm


Akasha....

"And from the coupling of Night and Void came Love, and from Love came all things." -Greek Creation Story

Love and Vale,
~LD

Leavaros


Tingaliin

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:16 am


Leavaros
Akasha....

"And from the coupling of Night and Void came Love, and from Love came all things." -Greek Creation Story

Love and Vale,
~LD


That's beautiful... Thank you for sharing this quote with us, I love it.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:32 am


An' ye harm none, do what ye will...
Wiccans can use any deity for their magickal works.
Egyptian gods and goddesses, Greek, Roman, Norse, any.

They see above that is the God and Goddess, the Lord and Lady... which can be kinda seem almost as the mother and father of all other gods...
~Blessed Be~
~Blessed Be~

Wraith_92


Funa Spectrum

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:33 pm


By definition, Wiccans are priest/esses of the Lord and Lady of the isles.

Personally, I'm a hard polytheist, but I rarely call on any deity.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:27 pm


Well, I personally believe in seperate dieties. I have four main ones that I work with and pray to (Ra, Thoth, Ma'at, Tefnut) as they have personally given my signs to follow their paths. I am very polythiestic.

Muffyn


Leavaros

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:32 pm


run.away.screaming
Leavaros
Akasha....

"And from the coupling of Night and Void came Love, and from Love came all things." -Greek Creation Story

Love and Vale,
~LD


That's beautiful... Thank you for sharing this quote with us, I love it.


Sure, I was happy to.
-LD
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:20 am


I believe deity's are infinite... there is not one for everything, but anyone can become one... It takes great power to achieve this position and keep it though. but really, why does something like evolution (which I do believe) have to end on the physical plane? and where does a god come from? if I am right, then those questions both have a logical answer.

Oavatos


Miss Randa

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:28 am


I think that the dieties have more to do with pagan religions as well as Wiccan. Erm. There are several different branches other then Gardner and such.

For example Celtic, which I follow, I believe in the Lord and Lady but I also believe in lesser dieties like Lugh, Brigid, Morrigan and so on...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:32 am


Wraith_92
An' ye harm none, do what ye will...
Wiccans can use any deity for their magickal works.
Egyptian gods and goddesses, Greek, Roman, Norse, any.

They see above that is the God and Goddess, the Lord and Lady... which can be kinda seem almost as the mother and father of all other gods...
~Blessed Be~
~Blessed Be~


And they should also know their background. Each culture had/has a specific way of worshiping gods and asking for their help. Per instance, you can't ask a Nordic god to help you without giving something in return, but you must be careful, you shouldn't give too much cause they'll be cranky about that too. And Hindus believe the pictures that represent god actually ARE god... So you really shouldn't get a tattoo with a Hindu deitiy on it and then stroll casually around India... etc.

I believe each deity exists. I don't belive Aphrodite to be the same person as Venus or Freya etc. I'm pretty sure I ranted on the subject once before...

Found it.

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I don't. Worship the Lord and the Lady, I mean. I find them to be fictional characters that were applied the names of old deities to give them some form of credibility.

If your argument is that they're all one and the same god and goddess then I believe you're wrong. Of course there are similarities between Aphrodite and Freya, they're both goddesses of love and fertility, but it's not like Greek and Roman where they were actually just stolen and given different names, the cultures are completely different.

In Slavic mythology Morana is the goddess of death, in Nordic Hel is the queen of the underworld, a connection, yes. But I am a metalhead with a fondness for Tolkien and Uruviel is a metalhead with a fondness for Tolkien, we, however, are not one and the same being.

I don't connect the Lord and Lady to any of the gods I worship. You can call the Lady Freya, Hekate, Isis, Diana, whatever you want, but that isn't going to make all of them suddenly appear in one being. They have different historical background, different cultural background, different personal background. The one thing they all have in common is that they're all female and were worshiped at a point in time. I suppose you believe that the Goddess is universal, that it embodies everything that was ever found in a woman... I don't agree. If you call out to Freya, you'll get Freya and her personality is certianly different than that of Morana or Frigg. When there's a group of friends walking away from you and you want to get one's attention, do you call them (let us say) Jake and Mike turns around, because, naturally, he is the same being as Jake, you've just given him a different name.

I think Gods are different. I don't find Thor to be a part of Odin by any other means than being his son, I don't think Triglav and Odin are the same. Certianly not.

Try calling out Loki (or, rather not, he'd make a mess out of everything and laugh, but per instance) and telling him that he's just a split personality of Balder. That they're actually one and the same person... And wait for his reaction.

I probably didn't make myself clear and this is written in a very chaotic manner, my point is just, I don't worship the Lord and Lady, I don't believe they exist. If right now, you asked me to define what Lord and Lady means to people, I'd have to say I think Lord only means Gods and Lady Goddesses for people who prefer the world less complicated, and see no need why there should be 5 gods for the same thing, even if they are different gods, different history, different culture. In a way, I think Lord and Lady are the globalisation of mythology.


From an old topic, here.

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Leavaros

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:24 pm


Interesting.... I find that the different representations of the Divine are almost as interesting as the Divine itself.
-LD
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