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`Rico

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:41 pm


Some say, the best way we can defend the public from the scums of evil is to remain hidden, and as secretive as possible.

Other, however, insist that running around with a battle-rifle blowing the streets to hell seems like a good way to protect the vulnerable from t3h 3vil.

So what, do you as a respective agent, believe we should do?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:12 pm


Becoming hidden again is not an option. We just got the public to trust us, you wanna lose that again?

I'm also troubled that you seem to think that the only alternative to being hidden and secretive is "running around with a battle-rifle blowing the streets to hell".

Solarn


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:33 pm


Iono. I thought the G.I.B. goes hidden once the plot is over, and they come back from the shadows once the plot starts...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:53 pm


trust? they trust us? sure, I am no longer getting cookies thrown at me, but it is my opinion that the general mindset about the GIB has remained about the same. while going hidden will raise a bit of an uproar ((so cool that we can make an uproar about a little thing as that)) its really not going to hurt us. besides, I have five bucks on a bet saying the vampire event will be exactly like the zurg one, forum based attacking the other group. when that happened, we laughed about it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:00 pm


It's not whether or not we should, it's whether or not we should accept the fact we're in the shadows.

Face it, the GIB isn't as famous as it once was. A lot of people have already forgotten about us. In fact, the only way we can gain popularity outside of the GCD community is through tonights plot update.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:07 pm


Elv: Who says there even will be one tonight? The admin don't usually do things that are expected... 7/7/07 for example.

ilafatyu
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Nite Lewis

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:08 pm


elvellon
It's not whether or not we should, it's whether or not we should accept the fact we're in the shadows.

Face it, the GIB isn't as famous as it once was. A lot of people have already forgotten about us. In fact, the only way we can gain popularity outside of the GCD community is through tonights plot update.


Well, that's to be expected neutral We are a plot related group, and if I'm not mistaken, during the last plot was the first time so many organizations were created. What happened to most of them? They were forgotten. It's normal that we were forgotten too; everyone expected us to get bored and disband.

Be patient, as soon as we make another thread in the next Event Forum we'll show them we aren't here just for the show. Most of those people just have to realize we aren't dead yet biggrin
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:11 pm


Ilafatyu
Elv: Who says there even will be one tonight? The admin don't usually do things that are expected... 7/7/07 for example.
The bar, of course.

There's a record of support for the Helsons and Edmund in the form of a bar. The Helson bar is nearly full.

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Quinn Cillian

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:20 pm


I think... I think we should go hidden. If we have info they need we can give it to them. If we let them steal it, they might give it out as if they found it. If we give it to them, they respect us more, and we earn their trust. It's simple.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:23 pm


elvellon
Ilafatyu
Elv: Who says there even will be one tonight? The admin don't usually do things that are expected... 7/7/07 for example.
The bar, of course.

There's a record of support for the Helsons and Edmund in the form of a bar. The Helson bar is nearly full.

YES! MY TURNING INTO VAMPIRES OVER-NIGHT THEORY IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOON! hopefully..

Bu re ku - san



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:37 pm


Ummmm.... Neither?

We're an information gathering Group. We investigate what is going on..... out in the open. We leave our guild open... and we certainly don't run around with "battle-rifles"......
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:39 pm


Yeata Zi
Ummmm.... Neither?

We're an information gathering Group. We investigate what is going on..... out in the open. We leave our guild open... and we certainly don't run around with "battle-rifles"......


But what about the trust of the people, Zi? Aren't they who we do this for?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:43 pm


Quinn Cillian
Yeata Zi
Ummmm.... Neither?

We're an information gathering Group. We investigate what is going on..... out in the open. We leave our guild open... and we certainly don't run around with "battle-rifles"......


But what about the trust of the people, Zi? Aren't they who we do this for?
Not really. I don't care if they trust us. And neither of teh listed two options will make them trust us.... Are you going to trust a guy with a gun or a guy hiding in the shadows? No. I care that we protect them if we must, aaaaaaaand that we gather enough information to predict problems well in advance. Forget the public. Theyre all so wishywashy. they change their like of us at the drop of a hat.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:47 pm


Yeata Zi
Quinn Cillian
Yeata Zi
Ummmm.... Neither?

We're an information gathering Group. We investigate what is going on..... out in the open. We leave our guild open... and we certainly don't run around with "battle-rifles"......


But what about the trust of the people, Zi? Aren't they who we do this for?
Not really. I don't care if they trust us. And neither of teh listed two options will make them trust us.... Are you going to trust a guy with a gun or a guy hiding in the shadows? No. I care that we protect them if we must, aaaaaaaand that we gather enough information to predict problems well in advance. Forget the public. Theyre all so wishywashy. they change their like of us at the drop of a hat.


So you do not believe it is beneficial to try to flip that hat the other way? To get them to trust us even a little bit? To, once we gather info, give it to the public? It's not like they are all fools... They ARE Gaia. Whatever happened to 'Your First, Last, and Only line of Defense'? That YOUR is certainly not us.

Quinn Cillian


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:55 pm


Quinn Cillian
Yeata Zi
Quinn Cillian
Yeata Zi
Ummmm.... Neither?

We're an information gathering Group. We investigate what is going on..... out in the open. We leave our guild open... and we certainly don't run around with "battle-rifles"......


But what about the trust of the people, Zi? Aren't they who we do this for?
Not really. I don't care if they trust us. And neither of teh listed two options will make them trust us.... Are you going to trust a guy with a gun or a guy hiding in the shadows? No. I care that we protect them if we must, aaaaaaaand that we gather enough information to predict problems well in advance. Forget the public. Theyre all so wishywashy. they change their like of us at the drop of a hat.


So you do not believe it is beneficial to try to flip that hat the other way? To get them to trust us even a little bit? To, once we gather info, give it to the public? It's not like they are all fools... They ARE Gaia. Whatever happened to 'Your First, Last, and Only line of Defense'? That YOUR is certainly not us.

Indeed. In fact, I was initially drawn to the GIB becaue of a post, I think it was in the GCD, about threats from 06 and 11. I thought, "How cool. Here's an organization that finds all the information they can get, and has made a judgement that the public needs to know about this. They're professional, they take initiative, and they feel that the public needs to know about threats. That was why I never bought into that whole "GIB is too secretive" thing. If we withdraw too far from the public, none of us will think to inform them of threats. And that is neccessary. So I think we should take a third option: Watch, theorize, participate, and inform the uninformed. How does that sound?
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