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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:57 pm


Otaku is derived from an honorific Japanese term for another's house or family (お宅, 御宅 otaku) that is also used as an honorific second-person pronoun (roughly equivalent to usted in Spanish). In modern terms, it means roughly that the person all their time in a house(or other place), doing a particular thing(watching anime for extended periods of time would equate the person to being an anime otaku, while practicing your tennis techniques for vast amounts of time would make you a Tennis Otaku, etc.), and typically means that person has little to no social life. Consequently, this terms carries a great deal of negative weight in it's native country. There are even particular terms for certain groups of the super obsessed(Fujoshi (腐女子, "Rotten Girl"?) is a pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men. It is also a homophonous pun on fujoshi (婦女子, fujoshi?), a term for respectable women. The name originated with members of the demographic, who self-deprecatingly refer to their way of thinking, which perceives homosexual relationships between male characters in stories that do not include homosexual themes, as being "rotten".)

Despite this, there have been attempts to take away the impact these words have and try to make them something positive(something international fans have been trying for year and years). In English, it is used to refer specifically to a fan of anime and/or manga, though it can sometimes refer to any kind of "geek". It also is used to refer to people who appear to be obsessed with Japan and its culture, and also has it's own specific pejoratives(Japanophile, Wapanese, etc).

What I want to know, is that do words and labels like these have an impact on how society perceives fans of the form? Should they even matter anywhere? What of your own tales of fandom?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:35 am


It's you! gonk

Urm, nobody in my school knows what an otaku is.
I asked a good japanese friend of mine, who told me that 'otaku' means geek.
She did not necesarilly refer to 'anime' in general..

On the other hand, other japanese in my class, after I asked them what it was, could not answer.
They said it wasn't even a japanese word D:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:16 am


` M a n g o
It's you! gonk
Urm, nobody in my school knows what an otaku is.
I asked a good japanese friend of mine, who told me that 'otaku' means geek.
She did not necesarilly refer to 'anime' in general..
On the other hand, other japanese in my class, after I asked them what it was, could not answer.
They said it wasn't even a japanese word D:


Remember, I MODERATE here. And generally, Otaku means geek, but in the sense of weight the Japanese feels it carries, it's closer to shut in nerd or a super geek. And whoever said otaku isn't Japanese should slap themselves(especially if they can't even recognize an honorific form of one of their their own words)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:58 am


Koiyuki

Remember, I MODERATE here.


gonk


koiyuki
And generally, Otaku means geek, but in the sense of weight the Japanese feels it carries, it's closer to shut in nerd or a super geek. And whoever said otaku isn't Japanese should slap themselves(especially if they can't even recognize an honorific form of one of their their own words)


Hehe. Well, they're either half-half, and most of them grew up away from japan :3

So I wouldn't know if it's in their vocabulary D:

Ahh.. it kinda sucks that Otaku makes people look like nerds...
Oh well, better nerd than never having watching anime in my life emo

` M a n g o


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:32 pm


When I learnt that word in class... my teacher didn't say it was something negative... just that it meant "fan" ( anykind of..) or refering to "home", "your house"... maybe "somene else's house" too (not sure about that)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:16 pm


In my Japanese culture class our teacher told us that people generally like things to certain degrees.

ファン Fan
マニア Maniac
オタク Otaku

Aren't otaku generally perceived to be unhygienic as well? In western communities I dont like how people don't see the negative implications of Otaku-dom even if they aren't recognised over there. I mean even to the extent of Madman [aussie publishing company] releasing "Otaku wear" some time ago. Personally, I'd avoid using it to describe myself or anyone for that matter.. even if it means something else here, because I know the implications its kind of...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:22 pm


[~Yue Ayase~]
In my Japanese culture class our teacher told us that people generally like things to certain degrees.

ファン Fan
マニア Maniac
オタク Otaku

Aren't otaku generally perceived to be unhygienic as well? In western communities I dont like how people don't see the negative implications of Otaku-dom even if they aren't recognised over there. I mean even to the extent of Madman [aussie publishing company] releasing "Otaku wear" some time ago. Personally, I'd avoid using it to describe myself or anyone for that matter.. even if it means something else here, because I know the implications its kind of...


Yes, I get annoyed with alot of people who think they're cool because they call themselves otaku, but they don't really know what they're calling themselves (I think we shouldn't change the usage, it makes us look ignorant).
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:25 pm


That seems to happen with a lot of Japanese terms that become used by overseas fans.

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