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was cruising around the forums and saw that there is not a thread about Salvia. Has it been posted before and I missed it?? If not what are some peoples experiences on this stuff? I've tried 40X as my first time a buddy and I did it in my garage and we tripped balls for like 15 min max thought everthing turned 2-D but wouldn't try it again.

Don't be too encouraged about short trip times. I'm not savvy with Salvia just yet, but lots of hard hallucinogens can make moments seem like forever. Hell, DXM seems like days have gone by if you just move around.

Check it out first. And let me know, by the by.

EDIT: I got off my lazy chair and checked it out at erowid. Nothing about alteration of time perception.

It does however note that it can cause terror. So if you're easy to anxiety... hm. Maybe take it with a depressant to make sure you don't lose your cool?

Salvia trips tend to scare the hell out of me, so when I do it, I take a Valium/Xanax first and/or smoke some Blue Lotus preemptively.. And I stick to 5x extract or regular dried leaves. Stronger extracts ******** with my head WAY too much and I usually end up in a fetal position until it's over and I pass out.

I'm paranoid and panicky on hallucinogens in general, though. x_X

ive never tried it myself, but i went into the local Big Bear (convinence store) and they sell salvia too! i actually said to them, 'WTF you sell it now too?!?!?!?!" lol they laughed, cause they are really friendly there and know me cause i go in all the time, and yup, you can buy it along with your blunts smokes and a sub razz , you gotta be 19 tho, cause they dun wanna loose their licence again razz

So, I tried it the day before yesterday with some friends I'd just met. It felt very intense and weird. The body trip was the most intense part about it. It felt like I was sitting on spikes (I was at a park sitting on grass), and my friends turned into cops -- or at least they seemed to. I remember seeing everything around me looking as if it was falling apart, or wasting away. I'd do it again, but try to take a much bigger hit. However, I don't think it's worth the price (60 bucks for 60x).

I've tried it once, but it wasn't an extract. So I had like, no trip. I might try it again someday, one of the high extracts...but it's not really high up on my list. Seems awful pricey for just a few minutes confused

My first hallucinogen was Salvia. Since Cannabis is considered a hallucinogen that would be my first, but my first trip was on Salvia. So heres my story:

Me and 3 other guys went to go get some smoke at my friends work at 3 am. It was a 76 gas station, and when my friend's car hit the first speed bump (going 5 mph) his axle broke. So as we sat there waiting for a tow truck this guy said he knew me from high school. Everyone knew me in high school, but I didn't know this guy. He asked if I ever tried Salvia. I said no and he offered, so I asked what would happen. "you trip for 5 to 10 minutes tops." I thought that must be very good. So I'll see things for a few minutes no harm.

He loaded a huge bowl of a high extract, and I inhaled more then I have ever inhaled in my life. Held it for 13 seconds count while sitting in the drivers seat of my friends car. Almost coughed at 10 seconds and when I did one friend off to the side of my vision flicked off the screen. 11..12..13.. ok you can exhale.

I sat there and watched as the ground way of in the distance started to roll and gain height as it came towards me. Once it hit me I had full visual hallucinations. Scared the F**K out of me because it was so intense.

There I was in the car stuck in time. Sound was stuck and making whatever sound it was making at that time. When I tried to move I jumped back in forth through the millions of me caught in each moment of my life. Sound changed from scene to scene but never changed within each frame of time.

I started to notice that the millions of me where spiraling around something, so I moved farther back from the scenes and noticed a huge me. That all the millions of me in time where like skin, spiraling around a huge me. The huge me was holding my hand up to my face and looking at the one spot where I was when I took the Salvia, which was on my finger. So there where 3 parts to me. the millions of me in time, stuck to the huge me, and the me that could move to where ever I felt, the conscious me.

I wanted to then see what was there before me, so I moved back farther in time. I stopped at a random moment and I was back in real time. Not me though but my mom when she was 17 years old and smoking with her friends. I started to freak out because I wasn't me, and I left that moment and wanted to go to the beginning.

When I went there it was all one. I was everything, or everything was me. I was one with it all. I was one.

The whole trip felt so much more real then this life. I never thought of any of this because I was raised in a small town (poor sheltered me), and very Christan (Pentecostal).

After the trip was over and I came slowly back everyone asked if I was ok. I said that was f**ked up. I stood up and walked around the car. You know that whole Bruce Lee movie where he moves his hands and you get major tracers, just like that, but with a 2 second delay. I also had 360 vision, so when I walked around the car to get a drink I watched myself catch up to me, every movement I made. I saw my own face. My friends said It all lasted 3 minutes, but it was days for me. Apparently I was laughing hysterically the whole time. All I could think was out of pure terror?!?!?

I was traumatized for 3 months trying to figure out what that was, because no one could explain it. But I think I found something, and it holds very true. Its called the Law of One, and you could read it yourself by clicking the link.

I will never do it again. Makes me shake just thinking about it. What do you all think about this ?_?