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 Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:38 pm
Now then, it's pretty much general knowledge that the Grand Canyon was created through the millions of years of the Colorado River eroding the earth. However, after watching a segment of ABC World News tonight, I discovered what I consider to be a great attrocity. A guide book at the Grand Canyon Park Center, beside all the scientific guide books, entitled Grand Canyon: A Different View. This book states that the Grand Canyon, "according to a biblical time scale, can't possibly be more than about a few thousand years old." It goes on to say that the Great Flood is the cause of the Grand Canyon. The following statement is quoted from it "The Flood may have stacked the rock like a giant layer cake, but what cut the cake? One thing is sure: the Colorado River did not do it." - Dr. Gary Parker "The Bible says that the evidence of God's existence is seen in the things that He has made, and I confirm that in my studies as a scientist." - Dr. Andrew Snelling Again, I was appalled. This book is sitting side-by-side with books explaining the science behind the creation of the Grand Canyon. It's a slap in the face. Oh and I might add that park guides do not promote this book or what it states on tours (thank God). All this I saw and found out about from an excerpt on ABC World News, where Christian Funamentalists want certain portions of a Lincoln Memorial video removed, saying that Lincoln would agree with gay rights, abortion rights, anti-Vietnam protests, and femenist/woman's rights movements. According to the man interviewed, the video should include accomplishments made by Christian groups. But tell me, what has the Christian religion as a whole done to change our world as a whole for the better? If I remember correctly, the Christians wanted to suppress civil and woman's rights. They wanted things to stay the same. Making things stay the same is not an accomplishment. I applaude the Christians, of course, for their charitable contributions to society, but what change have they made for the better of humanity in whole? Now then the main topic is the Grand Canyon Controversy, but you can make comments on the other topic as well. Grand Canyon Controversy ArticlesGeologists Demand Removal of Grand Canyon Creationist BookCongressman Questions 'Controversial' Lincoln Memorial Video
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:06 am
Bear in mind, from a christian point of view, Christianity has made the world better. Christianity is illogical however, and if you can make people understand your logical point of view, it will erode and break down their point of view, over time.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:09 am
gigacannon Bear in mind, from a christian point of view, Christianity has made the world better. Christianity is illogical however, and if you can make people understand your logical point of view, it will erode and break down their point of view, over time. If only that were true. Ignorance however tends to not take logic into account. Which reminds me, certain Christian communities refer to their religious leaders as the Shepherd, and that they are the Flock. Which makes them sheep. This is amuzing because sheep are notoriously stupid creatures, so really this analogy makes perfect sense.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:32 am
My friend's dad is a vicar, and he had hung in his house a sign that said, "The Lord is my Shepherd". At the time I thought, "He's leading us to the slaughter."
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:58 pm
gigacannon My friend's dad is a vicar, and he had hung in his house a sign that said, "The Lord is my Shepherd". At the time I thought, "He's leading us to the slaughter." Hilarious. Just hilarious. But we're getting off topic.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:09 pm
Yeah.
Here's two arguments. Firstly, how exactly can there be any supporting evidence to Creationism, if God just clicked his fingers, without any natural processes occuring to analyse?
Secondly, if God did create the grand canyon, why was it made to look exactly as if it had been built over millions of years?
No doubt the creationists would argue that the evidence suggests that the Grand Canyon is 6000-10000 years old, but if that were so, then everyone would agree on the data, since non-religious people have no agenda. And the vast majority, of course, think that Creationism is wrong.
They won't listen to that, though.
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:58 pm
gigacannon Bear in mind, from a christian point of view, Christianity has made the world better. Christianity is illogical however, and if you can make people understand your logical point of view, it will erode and break down their point of view, over time. I agree. Exactly why i'm not religious
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:05 am
gigacannon Bear in mind, from a christian point of view, Christianity has made the world better. Christianity is illogical however, and if you can make people understand your logical point of view, it will erode and break down their point of view, over time. Maybe...I don't think it will happen very quickly though...look how long science has been pointing out little errors in Christian Dogma, and many are still as ignorant as the basest medieval peasent. Quote: Which reminds me, certain Christian communities refer to their religious leaders as the Shepherd, and that they are the Flock. Which makes them sheep. This is amuzing because sheep are notoriously stupid creatures, so really this analogy makes perfect sense. Speaking as somone who has worked on a farm..sheep are very underestimated animals. They're vicious beast, especially the young females, and smarter than we give them credit for.
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:44 pm
These damn creationists are really starting to piss me off. They can belive whatever they want, but when they start calling Bible stories "Scientific Facts" it really makes me sick. I wish they would stop pressing there views on other people, I don't think I can take it much longer.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:02 pm
gigacannon My friend's dad is a vicar, and he had hung in his house a sign that said, "The Lord is my Shepherd". At the time I thought, "He's leading us to the slaughter." For me, "The Lord is my sheperd, but I ain't his sheep." biggrin Well my views are as the original poster's. It's proposterous that the christians have speculated that. And also, in my view, Christians done hardly any greatly significant achievements to today's world that I know of. I had wondered, what if the majority of the leading world was Buddhist? I can't really talk like most EDers, so people can't take me seriously. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:44 pm
We're arguing things that involve God!
What? You thought we were going to come to a conclusion?!
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