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if he's into heavy metal, try getting him to listen to a Christian heavy metal band. Though I don't listen to metal myself, my brother found a band I believe is called Disciple. you might want to try them, or look up other bands that are similar. This way he'll get the music he wants, but the message of God at the same time. And just let him see God through you. stay calm in a difficult situation that most people would be crying in, or if he's complaining about parents, or homework, or this or that, casually mention how God helped you through your hard times. Hint at why you are the way you are, and then let him come to you asking questions about God. That's usually the best way to evangilize.

This is your friend's belief. It is his right to retain this belief. While it is unnecessary for him to express his Atheism by telling you that you will 'eat your words', it is his right to express this.


Heavy metal does not make you a sinner. It is simply a beat and some words, put toghether to make music that some people enjoy. I know many people who listen to heavy metal, and yet are just as unlikely to sin as you. It's the tone of the music that attracts people--the screaming voices--but you can't exactly have voices screaming happy things; it just doesn't fit. So the words may not be the best in the world, and maybe sometimes they hit home. This does not, however, make a person who listens to heavy metal want to behave badly, or even reject God. Heavy metal--only a type of music--is in no way associated with God, and should be kept a seperate matter.


I must admit, this is wrong of him. Each is entitled to their own opinion. He should be able to believe--or not believe--what he wants without you trying to convert him, and you should be able to believe what you want without him trying to break your beliefs. Name calling is childish, and should have no place in such a debate.


The answer to this is simple: Stop arguing. It is evident that these arguments are going nowhere, and will only lead to further arguments. His mind is made up just as much as yours. Both of you are standing your ground and believe firmly in your opinions. This is not going to change simply because of arguments. If anything, both will feel that, by defending their beliefs, they are more of a Christian or Atheist than before (they are proud to have stood up for what they believe for), and will believe more strongly in their opinions. Perhaps these arguments are doing the opposite of what you intend.

Let it go. He is as determined as you. This is not going to change. By now, you must have used all your faith to try to get him to believe, and he must have used all his. It's not going to change if you keep arguing.


You let it go. His opinions are his own, as are yours. He has already made the decision never to convert. He, quite simply, does not believe in God. He's faced people's opinions that he will go to hell, and yet still he stands strong. He does not believe in hell, and has already made up his mind that if he is somehow wrong, and a hell exists, he will have to face it. I have many Atheist friends, and so I know: they've thought of all the possibilities. They don't believe in hell. They know they may face challenges related to their Atheism--if not necessarily hell, then others who try to convert them. And yet they are willing to face this. They live their lives the best they can.

I have to say, I think that's rather sweet. Though you have your differences, you still care about your friend, and want what is best for him. I know this is on the top of your mind during these arguments--but let it go. If you want to make him happy, forsake the arguments and know that you will both live your lives as you wish. And it will be so much easier on both of you without clashes that end up nowhere.

For those of you that think I meant it was bad to be a metal head, thats not what i was getting at. I am a metal head, but if you were to look up the lyrics of the bands I told you he listened to, that would give you an idea of what he believes.

Btw, he says I am the only cool Christian he knows. As of a thread I made a long time ago, this has also turned him against God. So please remember not to turn people away by being erregent. Thanks.

What I got out of this is that I cannot change his beliefs and his is doomed to go to hell, I will not believe that. If that is not what you meant, my apologies.

He hates Christians, what they believe and their stupidity of believing that. His own way is going to hell. Unless God reaches out to him. And what else is there to do than argue???

You are taking to wrong approuch....Obviously you care for the state of his soul, and thats awosme, but No one is saved unless the Spirit draws...Spend FAR less time arguing about the faith, and FAR more time being a loving, caring and compasionate friend. Don't tell him about Christianity, SHOW HIM...After all, Lighthouses don't make noise, they just Guide.