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I was wondering what does everybody think about ppl claiming to be Christians but rly follow the wrong path?

Thanx for the info... biggrin

Some just don'r know any better becuase they have not been taught the word of God. Others are children of Satan that have work there way into churches.

A man with a sense of humor, your dad sounds like a good guy.

[this is graceangel btw, and sorry i've been a little inactive.]

I like his analogy. But, have any of you read a book called the Pilgrim's Progress? by Paul Bonyun? [not sure on spelling anymore since it's been so long] Well, there is a young man named christian. and he is weighed down with burdens. but, he meets a celestial being from the the Celestial gates [which is supposed to be heaven or something like that]. So, he goes to a place called the cross where he drops his burdens and is given clean rainment. Anyways, so he leaves his town and ends up consequently having to leave his wife because she couldn't accept that change in him. He goes on a long long journey. makes some friends along the way... and at one point in his trip.. he and his friend grew weary in their journeying. They laid down on the side fo the road to rest. Well, it so happened they were tresspassing on the property of the giant called the ogre of dispair or something like that. HIm and his friend were taken captive into a prison where the ogre and his wife starved them and only daily would offer them a cup of wine... but, they had looked out the window and seen many who came before them on the walk who were born again.. but, i guess if people drink that wine.. it's poisoned and causes people to pass out long enough for the giants to poke out their eyes and blind them. And, on a mountain side, they saw a bunch of blind believers all scounging and falling over each other trying to find their way, but they couldn't because they were lost.

anyways... you guys should read that story. Because I will tell you that if you really do have a great relationship with the Lord.. and you are in it for him and not for the glory adn respect of your church peers. Your faith will be tested. You wil be tried. You will be baptized with fire. You will have to endure and go through stuff. Some of those things will just make you wanna give up sometimes. And, sometimes.. yes, sometimes we fail those tests. It doesn't mean we are going to hell or never had any sincerity towards the Lord. But, at the end of the day, we are human. Our humanity is only capable of so much until our tainted existance is once again thwarted by that curse that comes down from adam. That is why he gave us GRACE! His grace picks us up where we fail and carries us the rest of the way. That is why his word says that salvation : for by grace are ye saved, through faith: and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

The point of that is ... i'm sorry to tell you but all the things like going to church and reading your bible. they are good things to do as they help feed and water your soul and help you to learn the voice of the one we live for. However, those activities do not reserve your spot in heaven or get you favor from the Lord. Nothing we can ever do would make any of us worthy of him. People need to realize that. He favors us not because of anything we have ever done or might do. He favors us out of his own generosity becuase he wants to help us make the best we can out of what we have to work with.

The point of this is sometimes... real believers who do love him so get themselves entangled in snares and traps. Becuase guess what. in this walk, we do have spiritual enemies who watch our every step.. who are there to do whatever they can to mess us up... and sometimes they do interfere with our walk with teh Lord. It's a battle out there guys. and, sometimes we get captured, or taken prisoner in a metaphoric way of speaking.. when we get oppressed and under spiritual attack. Let me tell you.. if you haven't yet gone through one of those times in your life.. it can put you to a point where you think you're gonna break and can't hold in there any longer. So.. yeah. you do stupid things. You mess up.

Well, you know what? David messed up, Sampson messed up, Peter messed up, even Elijah messed up once... Almost every hero of the old testament messed up somewhere along the line... did that mean they were any less of that mission to which they were called? NO! The Lord still spoke well of them and let their names be remembered in his word long after they have passed. He wanted their accounts to be remembered and survive for the people today who follow him.

People need to stop expecting that just because someone is a christian that they will at all times be perfect in every way. Because until we get to heaven adn get to shed this earthly bodies, that is just not going to happen. We just need to accept ourselves for what we are and be GRATEFUL that he loves us enough to put up with us in this horrible shape. The Lord is holy and beautiful and maginificent. Any of our wildest imaginations of him cannot do him justice. For any of us to think anything we do wouuld even make us remotely worthy of him or anything he does for us is just arrogancy and vanity. It is folly, and we all need to not think too much of ourselves. It is the Jesus inside of us that works in us giving us the strength to be anything of any worth whatsoever. 3nodding

I am sooo thankful that he is with me and never gives up on me. Because even though I might not always be walking the walk exactly as straight and narrow as i should. He doesn't give up on me. And, I am thankful that there is a verse that says, "he who has began a good work in me is faithful to complete it in me."

If people are considerly saying that their Christians but following the wrong path? Let God handle things, not you.