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  ...is a wonderful place.
  ...is a friggin' xenophobic craphole
  ...has it's good and bad sides to it, like any other country.
  ...makes some awesome music, entertainment and snacks
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:47 pm


Here is where we will show truths about the country, and it's people. No fact will be spared, and people who've been to the country are more than welcome to share their stories. And always remember, take these words with a grain of salt. Remember, rules of the guild are always in play, so play nice, please. And to the mods, I would prefer their postings go UNMODIFIED, for any reason.

Also, although this is a personal preference of mine, if you choose the poll whore option(last option), in the words of Stephen Colbert: "You're a coward." xP Of course I jest, but discussion is highly encouraged, so don't be shy. If you have question about modern Japanese culture, and it's people, feel free to ask.

Firstly, please note this on Gaia thread holding many, many resources to peruse and learn from

For those wondering about Japanese etiquette, please direct your attention here:

Dos & Donts

For those interested in going as a teacher/teacher in training, please take a look at one of the programs featured here:

Guy Healy Japan

Wiki article on Eikawa

Video entitled "Jozen in Japan"

ALTs in Japan

If you're thinking about going as a student, look here:

Intrax program

If you're thinking of moving here, have a look here:

Changes to Japan's Immigration Policy, as of July 2011

One Mans Move from The States to Japan

Turning Japanese: a site for and by people interested in becoming naturalized citizens of Japan

No sex in the City: What Its Like to be Foreign and Female in Japan

Foreign Victims, Prepetrators of Sekuhara(Japanese shorthand for Sexual Harrassment)

For a taste of the reality of Japan, look at these postings, and note, that these are based on each individual posters observations about Japan, so discrepancies may be found between each person:

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Japanese high school is surprisingly laid back due to the amount of family owned businesses in Japan. a College degree was not (and still isn't, in many ways) viewed as 100% needed to succeed in the world. If your father has a business, you will eventually be running that business, thats pretty much that. It's compulsory, but not particularly dire. The big stresses are the High school entrance and college entrance exams. And as far as those go, if you wanna do well, you go to cram school. Cram school is an extra school that you can go to where you actually just spend time covering what is going to be on the college entrance exams. Japan isn't a nation of super geniuses that have cured cancer or anything, they are very very ignorant about a lot of things, just like Americans. They are in fact, one of the most Xenophobic races on the planet. Their government is and can be extremely autocratic and corrupt, with pork barrel spending often running rampant. If you went to an establishment in America and it said "No Japanese" or "No blacks" you would be offended, but in Japan, there are many establishments that DON'T allow Americans to come in unsupervised.


This is a very useful, informative post, along with...

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If you're interested to know, even though Japanese kids may be smarter, school-life is uptight, and a lot of teenagers and such are cruel. They have tight cliques and for outsiders, it would be hell (excuse my language) to fit in. In America, it is easier to fit in. My mother (100% Japanese) would tell me horror stories about it. Not to mention, because of the harshness of the education system, Japan (I've heard) has one of the highest suicide rates in the world for teens. Education is a very big thing, especially when there are probably minimal family functions. Fathers are gone to work all the time, commuting from morning 'til night. Failing is out of the question in that country. I am only happy that I grew up in America, where I could learn and have fun freely. Not to mention, have textbooks that are not changed and altered to fit the picture that the government wants to be seen.


And in this quote, miss X__Vanilla__X addresses some common misconceptions about Japan.

X__Vanilla__X
~The kids are all smart/good at fighting games/good at DDR/etc.
Not true. Only a small number of my friends in Japan are really good at games, and those are the nerdy ones. Not all are smart, but they are all very well educated, because of the school sysytem in Japan. Some are Really slow when it comes to things like common sence. They are just people.

~The women are beautiful, and live only to serve.
Just like every race, there is beauty and not so pretty people, astetically, so not ALL japanese woman are pretty....And that is a lie. The older generations, maybe, just because of culture, and not exactly live to serve, its tradition for certain things. But the newer generation is pretty big with women having freedom, sort of the "Rock on gal" spirit.

~Anime is everywhere
Only in book stores, video stores, and advertisements. Not everywhere. Its just like our cartoons here, Batman advertised in a snack food, or on commercials, or in stores.

~Everyone is always polite and courteous
Yes, actually. Because of our culture and our traditions, speaking Formal japanese, bowing lower to superiors is just part of daily life. The newer generations are becoming more "American" in the fact that some have a disregard for politeness.

~The people are a bunch of sex freaks
Not always. The laws on Pornographic material make it seem more available then in America. Most of the people i know are not perverted or sex freaks.

~Everybody and their grandma's got a cell phone
Not so. I know people without cell phones, but a whole lot of them do. Grandmothers don't usually like cell phones :/ Not all, but some.


I also think this posting hits it home the most, concerning traveling/living in Japan as a foreigner:

-okonomiyaki o konomu-
I wouldn't say it's all xenophobia. There's quite a bit of just naivete when it comes to foreigners. Most people don't get a lot of experience interacting with foreigners, so their reactions to meeting one will seem a bit unusual to people who are more accustomed to it. However, it's not necessarily hostile. In fact, for Westerners in particular, it can be quite the opposite. You can hear about ALT's in the JET program being treated like celebrities simply because they're foreign. I think what is just admiration for something they think is cool (and I know that at least many American teenagers would think that people from certain other countries coming to their school would be cool. If there had been an English male teacher at my high school, I know he would have gotten some extra attention for that) is exasperated in Japan because there is a tendency to exaggerate emotions when they are expressed.

But there is xenophobia too, of course, particularly if the "xeno" part is referring to people from other Asian countries. I was quite surprised when my host mother told me we had to lock big metal shutters over the windows to keep Chinese people out. And my host sister in my second family (who was an adult, and didn't actually live with us), told me she didn't like Korean people. But this isn't everyone, either; there were Koreans in the exchange program I was in, and many of them seemed to fit in very well. Also, the popularity of Korean dramas lately might also alleviate this to some extent for some people.

I don't think xenophobia should be a reason to not go to Japan. If anything, they should have more exposure to foreigners. And I think that younger people in particular are more open to meeting people from other countries. It's easy to put a blanket of generalization over a culture, but when it comes down to it, you're not ever usually dealing with the general culture, you're dealing with individuals, and they're far more complex than generalizations.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:25 pm


Aren't those two posts about school contradictory. I supose it's based on the perspective. One says school is laid back and another doesn't. I think it depends on the person there are plenty of people in America who get teased and stuff.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:18 pm


BarakReider
Aren't those two posts about school contradictory. I supose it's based on the perspective. One says school is laid back and another doesn't. I think it depends on the person there are plenty of people in America who get teased and stuff.


Well of course everyone's had a different experience while in Japan. It's the thread between them, that I want people here to grasp at; in this case while the school's curriculum is laid back, the social atmosphere is the opposite.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:55 pm


My experience with the schools was somewhere in between. My class might have been a bit different from the norm, as they were the international culture course, and had slightly different aims, but not that different, I think. We were second years in high school.

Not everybody studied all that much. Some did; some didn't. Same as here in the states. There was, I think, a bit more pressure to succeed academically, but not that incredibly so. Some teachers were strict, while some really weren't. One girl in my class dropped out of school in the middle of the year - she had been doing poorly the whole time.

As far as the severity of high school social life - cliques, etc - it wasn't that bad. Yes, there were different groups, and occasionally there was some teasing, but it wasn't really cruel. There were quiet, submissive girls. There were loud, brash, tom boys. There were girls who left school at lunch, and girls who smoked, and girls who curled their hair and spent half of every class text messaging under their desks. There were girls who did nothing but study.

What I found to be more different from American schools was the method of teaching and assesment. They're much more oriented on facts and memorization. The teacher lectures, the students study and take tests. There aren't projects and things like here, and they don't type any assignments - they want them to be able to write fluently. The students stay in their desks and don't move around. They don't give any presentations, no group work. It's all much more rigid than American education, except that they have activities like Bunkasai (Culture Festival) and Class Match and Sports Festival. I can't speak for cram school, but I expect it's much the same, only without the festivals and such.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:27 pm


There's a lot of small local things, but the biggest thing was this.

It's a real country. What I mean is, when I was talking to a friend out in the boondocks about Akihabara, the first words he gave were, "They're pretty different out there...strange, different."
Roundabout Conclusion: There are normal, well-adjusted people in the U.S., and then there's Vegas. Not everyone here lives in Sin CIty, and not everyone there lives in the Electric City.
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:32 pm


Oh right, I almost forgot. If you're going as a tourist, remember that English isn't generally spoken or understood.

Example: When you stab your finger at the menu and scream in capital letters (swear to god the people I was with thought it would translate if they yelled), "GIVE-ME-THIS-THING," and they get it for you, that's not an understanding of English. They just have an amazingly polite and subserviant service industry.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:41 pm


That would be real cool if I could go to Japan...maybe I will in the future.
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:16 pm


Koiyuki

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I am only happy that I grew up in America, where I could learn and have fun freely. Not to mention, have textbooks that are not changed and altered to fit the picture that the government wants to be seen.


Oh, our American textbooks go through a system to make sure they're "decent". Basicly meaning our books are not allowed to say anything negitive about important American historical figures or else they get edited or banned.
*Cough* Sorry, I had to open my big mouth and comment about that >__>;

One thing I've noticed is a lot of sterotypes about Japan are like the various sterotypes of America.
You have the South in America, if you ain't of the right race you get snubbed.
In California and New York people picture a whole group of crazy people running arround in outrageous fashion and using the newest electronics.
So on and so forth, and there's some truth to these.

And I swear I had a real point, I promise.
But I'll edit in what I forgot later >____>

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:09 am


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Koiyuki

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I am only happy that I grew up in America, where I could learn and have fun freely. Not to mention, have textbooks that are not changed and altered to fit the picture that the government wants to be seen.


Oh, our American textbooks go through a system to make sure they're "decent". Basicly meaning our books are not allowed to say anything negitive about important American historical figures or else they get edited or banned.
*Cough* Sorry, I had to open my big mouth and comment about that >__>;

One thing I've noticed is a lot of sterotypes about Japan are like the various sterotypes of America.
You have the South in America, if you ain't of the right race you get snubbed.
In California and New York people picture a whole group of crazy people running arround in outrageous fashion and using the newest electronics.
So on and so forth, and there's some truth to these.

And I swear I had a real point, I promise.
But I'll edit in what I forgot later >____>


For public school text books that might be true, but textbooks made for hoemschoolers can say anything. razz

That's not rue about the South. We're really polite and accept anyone.
And honestly, when I think of California, I think of crazy drivers and expensive stuff. xd

One thing I want to know about is food. I've always wanted to cook any kind of Asian style food, but I like Japanese food best, especially udon and sushi.
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:55 pm


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For public school text books that might be true, but textbooks made for hoemschoolers can say anything. razz

That's not rue about the South. We're really polite and accept anyone.
And honestly, when I think of California, I think of crazy drivers and expensive stuff. xd

One thing I want to know about is food. I've always wanted to cook any kind of Asian style food, but I like Japanese food best, especially udon and sushi.

*Homeschooler X3*
I should have been a bit more clear, I ment public school textbooks, as that's what generaly comes to mind.
As for the South thing, I was only refering to the sterotype, not saying that everyone in the south is a crazed racist.
I've known plenty of nice people from the South who hate the fact they get lumped in with unaccepting people, but those are the kind of people who get publicity.
And I know there's plenty of unaccepting people up Noth too.

You should look for cookbooks. Like if you have a Walden's or something of the sort. I've gotten several Japanese cook books from Walden's alone.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:17 am


WOW i didn't know that
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:53 pm


Okay, whoever votes Japan is a xenophobic craphole, please tell WHY you think such.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:01 pm


this seems like a really helpful topic, i'm supposed to be taking a trip to japan(preferebly Akihabara.) that's my graduation present. just four more years and i'll be in japan! mrgreen gonk 3nodding
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:45 pm


I want to take a exchange student program to japan but i don't know where to start sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:28 am


I hate to say this but I really wana go to Japan and maybe even live there but I would stand out way too much. You see I'm black but I'm pretty light (like a hispanic persons skin). I think I would have a tough time if I went and was the outcast because I'm not part of anyones click. But the fact that I have darker skin would make it harder for me. No? Any words of comfort? sweatdrop
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