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Hal B Noire

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:00 pm


Me and my sister watched videos from youtube and downloaded very high quality ones so we could see the secret movie clearly. We kept watching it over and over again, and kept seeing some very notable themes that are very interesting. This is an analysis of what we've seen, what we know/knew, and what we can guess based on the other KH series.

((WARNING!!! Long A$$ Analysis!))

-The 3 knights that take the 3 key blades belonged to Sora, Riku, and Mickey.
>Knight #1 (whom we shall call Young Xehanort [further explanation shall follow...])-took Sora's; got pointy ears and the tallest of the 3
>Knight #2 (whom we shall call Blue)-took Mickey's; ears slick back
>Knight # 3 (whom we shall call "Roxas" [again, further explanation shall follow...])-took Riku's; pointy ears; short

-In case you haven't noticed, The Old Man is wearing an outfit exactly like Heartless Ansem's (as well as the boots from Organization XIII). The only difference is that it is bottom up. (Who the hell wants to see a shriveled up evil old mans body anyway!? XP)

-When the old man split into two, that was like Zexion's Cloning ability; along with shape shifting. Once his second clone seperated it transformed into, from what it may seem, his heartless form. From this we could hypothesize that the Old Man has the ability to seperate and combine his heart at will. ((Something that Xehanort was interested in when he came to Hallow Bastion))

-Once Young Xehanort ran after him, the battle begins. As the Knights fight the Old Man and his Heartless form, the old codger uses elements that are each signature to one of the Organization members(i.e. Cloning-Zexions, Lightning-Larxene, Earth-Lauxeaus, Ice-Vexen, etc.)

-During the battle Knight #2, Blue, had fallen from the cliff's edge. The helmet had broken off, so now we are able to see the face of one of the knights at last. For the record, people have been thinking that they see Riku/a boy. But when we looked at that knight closely and carefully, it's actually a girl.
Her physical features are much more slimmer than a KH boys, like Kairi's and Namine's face and neck. Although her hair may look boyish, it actually is just like the tomboyish hairstyle that Kairi use to have in KH1.(if that doesn't convince you, look at her armor; bosom people, bosom.)
And from the way she battles, her strength lies on magic abilities. Sending a blast towards the enemy from her keyblade.

-My sister noted that if you look at the Old Man’s weapon closely, it’s a huge Keyblade that looks like a fusion of many other key blades combined. It could be possible that this shriveled old coot is in fact the former Keyblade Master. My theory is that he’s possibly getting in way over his head on some obseession, and the three of them were sent to stop him.

The pattern of most villains we’ve seen was that they had a fixation that drove them into the darkness. The thirst to know, to be, or to find are pretty common traits that we’ve seen in a lot of characters. Xehanort’s obsession with Kingdom Hearts, Riku’s desire to leave Destiny Island (of course he did not let that overtake him forever), and the first six members of Organization XIII who also had a thirst to know more than they bargained for.

-The beauty of this KH3 Movie is that even thought they don't speak, you can somehow get the idea of the relationship of the characters through their body language. Young Xehanort seems to hold a parental like closeness to the other two, particularly "Roxas". Whether it was when he stopped him from running after the Old Man in the beginning, or the shocked/fearful expression his lips made as the Old Fogey gripped the boys head in his hand, he seemed to not want the boy to get hurt.
There also seems [just saying it's possible] to be a romantic thing between "Roxas" and Blue. The look that the two give each other is so intense; it reminded me of the strong bond between Sora and Kairi when they held on to one another at the end of KH1. The way she jumped after him as his frozen body fell the ground, and as she held him in her arms; there really felt like a chemistry.

-The helmet breaks off a little to reveal "Roxas'" blue eyes. And when Blue caught him, the helmet is pretty much off his head so that we can see him. Though he may "look" like "Roxas" he most likely isn't. For one thing the real Roxas is a part of Sora again; his hair somehow looked a slightly lighter than both Sora and Roxas, and is also a little taller than the two. And if this event is taking place in when we think it is, it is way to early from the time Roxas came into existence.

-Just to assure everyone, the "Roxas" kid is not dead yet. My sister and I looked at the high quality video, and his eyes are moving still.

-As with the KH theme, the focus of the villain appears to be Kingdom Hearts Once again. For what reason and purpose, it is still unknown. He summons Kingdom Hearts to appear as the clouds disperse in a circular manner to reveal the familiar heart shaped moon. He then rises up towards it as the two watch from below (or one of them anyway), the light bathing over them.

-Young Xehanort, who was flung off the cliff by the Heartless form, staggers back up on one knee. The last of the 3 to take off his helmet, reveals his face. Many who thought it was Sora were mistaken; b/c the 3rd KH installment isn't about him. The man with that broken helmet, brown hair, and blue eyes is in face Xehanort in his youth (or twenties at least)-thus the alias we've given him. Although this has led a debate on if it really is him/not.

My sister argued that it couldn’t be Xehanort b/c he was only a baby/child when Ansem the Wise took him in. The man is probably an ancestor/relative of Xehanort; and the Old Man is also probably related to him as well (their yellow eyes). Another thing that she pointed out was the possibility that may be the “Memories of Xehanort” were planted in Xehanort the same way Sora’s memories were planted. Their could be someone else with the ability to give & take memories. This is one possibility.

The other is that it really is Xehanort in his former life. The first thing you will notice is his hairstyle, the trinity bangs (three pieces that point out like the appendages of a stars). That's the signature hair of Heartless Ansem (and Xehanort when he was Ansem the Wise's Pupil). Another give away was his eyes. In the past he use to have striking blue eyes just like Sora's, but as he looked up at the Old Man with rising anger, they changed to yellow. I know that in KHII, the Xehanort that everyone saw had brown eyes in the scene. But it is genetically possible for eyes to change color with age (or in his possible case-rebirth), as with his hair. Also I don’t think it could be possible that the memories were someone else’s, b/c if the person had the same ability as Namine, he/she then can only create memories based off the ones that already exist in the person’s mind.

And if you put all those random text that appear in the KHII secret ending, it makes sense.

“The memories of Xehanort as a Chaser during the Keyblade War in which they must stop the Keyblade Master from opening Kingdom Hearts, and leading the world into destruction.”

This text of course is only one of the possibilities.

-I looked up the symbolisms of the colors yellow and blue, as they are the primary colors in this game. Blue means knowledge or a calm life of the conscious mind; where as yellow meant envy, cowardice, or treachery. The Yellow-to-Blue change is a sort of “transitional phase” that shows the corruption of innocence-the light and darkness of the mind. When ever a character got too deep into darkness, particularly a highly intellectual one, there eyes would alter to yellow. (i.e. the Old Man’s eyes could have changed, so he may not be related to Xehanort.)

Another interesting fact that my sister pointed out is the color of the moon/Kingdom Hearts. In KHI, the Moon is full, but it was yellow; in KHII the moon was full and yellow, but with a rim of blue outlining it. And this time in the Secret Movie, the Kingdom Hearts is a solid shade of blue. This means that in both I & II, the completions were failures; but once Kingdom Hearts was successfully opened. At the same moment that Xehanort had changed….(does anyone get the feeling of a Star Wars theme here???)

-At the end Mickey shows up a couple of miles a way from the scene, with a grim look on his face. (We were cracking up at how evil and badass he looked). Once he found the real research paper by Ansem the Wise, and after sending the message to the trio on Destiny Island, he must have found a way to go back in time in order to find out the truth about the Keyblade, Xehanort, and the many mysteries that surround Kingdom Hearts. He could have had help from Master Yen Sid, Merlin, etc.

-Overall we can somewhat confirm that the third installment of KH is definitely in the past, and that some of the major questions and mysteries about Xehanort and the Keyblade will be answered here. Nomura is a true genius story teller, with a talent for creating a plot that is bewildering and intriguing. And of course the artists and techies that worked the animation have out done themselves once again. Although me and my sister thoroughly looked through this preview, and pretty much scrutinized every little detail we could find, our analysis is but one of the many possibilities to Nomura’s magnum opus.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:42 pm


That was one awesome analysis! And you're not the only one that got the Star Wars feeling from the preview, I was totally thinking Star Wars when I saw it. xD

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:25 am


*applauds* wow. That's pretty good. ^_^
Now for my agreement time and all that jazz.


I too noticed that the old man is wearing the exact outfit as Xehanort's heartless does in KHI. And I know I sure wouldn't want to see an evil old man's body XP

When he split, doesn't the other figure kinda resemble Riku's outfit when he was possessed by Xehanort's heartless? The only thing is that it is red and black, wears a helmet, and I don't think it wears a little skirt. I would think that he would be able to do that too.

Yeah I noticed that too. Both the old dude and the other guy can do the ice thingy.

I've always known it was a girl because when she walks in it has the figure of a woman and well, erm, it has boobs. XD And I would think having short hair would be nice if you where wearing a helmet. But that's just me.

I can’t seem to get a good look at his keyblade. XP

The one whom we are calling young Xehanort seems to be the leader of the three. And I do believe the Blue and "Roxas" do have something going on. They are fighting together, and when Blue falls and her helmet comes off, "Roxas" runs and kneels next to her as if checking to see if she is all right. And same as you said, pretty much, with the whole part where "Roxas" is being frozen and stuff.

Yeah Roxas is now a part of Sora so "Roxas" can't be Roxas.....XD that sounds funny! lol

Ah, they ARE still moving! Never really notice that.

Every villain is after Kingdom Hearts. XD When I watched it I was like "Oh look, another mad man after Kingdom Hearts." I swear, if Kingdom Hearts were a person, they would be like "Dude! Just leave me alone already!! gonk "

He does have a similar hairstyle as Xehanort (except it's brown). Although it seems to be a bit shorter and he doesn't have two little strands of hair in front of his eyes as seen in this picture of Xehanort. User Image.

I wouldn't think it's him. I don't know why, but I just have this feeling that it's not him. Could be and ancestor or relative. That is a good possibility though about the whole implanted memories and stuff.

Xehanort, Xehanort's heartless, and Xemnas all have the same hairstyle pretty much. I don't think they could be someone else memories either. They would have to be more like fake memories.

Sounds good so far. But I see you have all the text in that sentence but one, "The lost two". What that means is still unknown to me.

Hrm...Yellow and Blue.... Blue meaning calm life, Yellow meaning treachery. Yellow to Blue showing corruption of innocence-the light and darkness of the mind. That kinda brings me back to Riku in KHI. His whole outfit is Yellow top, Blue bottoms, and his shoes have blue and yellow in them. Oh I'm sorry, I kinda switched all the way back to KHI for a sec. My bad! XD; Sounds about right. Kingdom Hearts does seem to have a thing with Blue and Yellow. A lot of the characters (Riku, Sora, Kairi, Roxas, ect) do have blue eyes. Most of them being the good guys. And the heartless, being bad guys, have yellow eyes. As you said, perhaps it is possible if you steep to low in the darkness, your eyes change color.

Yeah that is strange. It being completley blue here could mean that it is fully complete like how Xemnas wanted it to be. In KHII the outline must mean that it is not fully complete but it's getting there. And when Ansem destroys it, it has a pink outline! XD (oy yes! Another game that has a Star Wars feeling to it!! >.<)

lol he does look evil and badass! XD He is also using the same keyblade that Master Yen Sid and the three good fairies gave Sora. I'm still rather iffy on when the games takes place. Sure the trailer could be set in the past, but that doesn't necessarily mean the whole game will be set in the past. KHI's secret ending was in the future but a tad bit in the past because Sora was still sleeping. I'd rather wait to find out. And if so, I would think he got help from Master Yen Sid. Merlin isn't as powerful as Master Yen Sid. After all, Master Yen Sid was Mickey's teacher.


Overall, I pretty much agree with you and your sister's analysis. 3nodding Oh and if you don't mind me asking, where did you download it? I would also like to watch it in better quality then what I can find XP
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:33 am


I didn't get a proper look at the Blue haired person but i still reckon its Riku cause he does that shield thing that he does at the end of KHII and only one of the figures has a femine body and that turns out to be Roxas person.

Edit- I got screen shots and had a look. Tis a girl afterall. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:49 am


I'm pretty sure Blue is the one with the femine body.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:33 pm


You get a pretty good look at the body when the dude is holding him by the head and hes running in mid air but i cangt get a proper look at Blue.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:45 pm


Gemaga asked if the characters who appear in the new CG "secret movie" that has been added to Final Mix are from the new title. "They are people who have some relation to the new series," said the producer. "However the next title won't just be Kingdom Hearts III. If it were III, we wouldn't call it a new series."
Asked if Sora and Riku would make an appearance in the new game, he said with a laugh, "I can't say." He also hinted that the new game would have something to do with Xehanort, the main villain of the Kingdom Hearts series.

He was just as direct when Dengeki PlayStation asked for some details on the new title. "First, it's not Kingdom Hearts III. Of course, because we're calling it a 'new' series, it won't be KHIII. Also, it's a series, so it probably won't be just one title."
Nomura once again promised an announcement of the new game, whatever it may be, some time this year. In the meanwhile, he suggested that players attempt to unlock the Final Mix secret movie and start imagining."
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:59 am


I thought that maybe you'd like to see the one with sub titles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGYANmG_rQ

there you go. If you've seen it already then never mind sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:50 pm


Oh, yay. It's my turn. Geez. My eyes are gonna rot out of my head if I read anymore. x'D
I really like your Analysis. >>;
But, I really don't think Mickey went back in time. It's so not possible.
And I think I heard that this game is in fact about Sora and that he is a main Character.
I think Kairi will participate and Riku, too, in this 'War'.
That's... All I wanted to get out. @_@;
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:44 am


I dont think Sora, and the others will be the main characters anymore with it being a new series and all but i think they'll have great significance. *strokes goatee*

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:38 am


+MyFinalFantasy+
I dont think Sora, and the others will be the main characters anymore with it being a new series and all but i think they'll have great significance. *strokes goatee*

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:01 pm


+MyFinalFantasy+
I dont think Sora, and the others will be the main characters anymore with it being a new series and all but i think they'll have great significance. *strokes goatee*
I agree. 3nodding I think you might be able to play as Roxas again though. Thats probably their compensation for not having Sora.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:33 pm


User Image I sense there's something in the wind

I am positive that that is Xehanort. It looked almost exactly like him!

Kairi, Riku and Sora aren't going to have much if anything to do with this title, that has already been stated. This game series is going to turn into a sort of FFish thing with many sequels and not really relating to each other in much.

Except I think the KH one will have more relations with the first two, as in the back in the past theory. Same story and such, just back before Sora.

That seems like a feasible idea to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:09 am


This may seem rather strange, but I heard in an interview that Roxas has something to do with this next installation. I found that kind of weird considering he is the nobody of Sora; than again this is Nomura we're talking about. razz

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:15 am


Katarael
+MyFinalFantasy+
I dont think Sora, and the others will be the main characters anymore with it being a new series and all but i think they'll have great significance. *strokes goatee*
I agree. 3nodding I think you might be able to play as Roxas again though. Thats probably their compensation for not having Sora.
well it's pretty evident that the old cast is not going to be in this one, it does not mean that the main story is over; not by a long shot. I believe it was in an interview (I think you should be able to find it somewhere on the internet) with Nomura that he states that he's giving Sora and Co. a bit of a break, but still expects to build Sora up in the future. And I don't think he intends to make a new series, but rather develop the back story of the main one.
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