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SubHumanRemains

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:34 pm


Below is a conversation starting from my friends bulletin on myspace...
She's kind of making a point but... really... i think i'm beating her in this discussion. I'm Kalifornia... posted the last message (which will be the first one you see btw)
I'm not sure if i want to start openly fighting stuff like this but its just soo... controversial i almost have to as a part of my nature. Like today i was a security guard for my schools election convention and i wanted soo badly to comment on their discussions... but all i could do was sit there and look badass.



So you're saying that if i came up to you and cursed you out for believing in God or not accepting homosexuality and assaulted you because of who you are you would be okay with that?
I guess thats a major difference between you and I because i would never be friendly towards people who did that to me.
There's a difference between stating your opinion about something and openly persecuting someone.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: I seem to have misplaced myself, can you find me?
Date: 15 Mar 2007, 18:11


Because in not doing so you are discriminating against someone's beliefs and impeding their right to express their opinion. And isn't that what you hate about them?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Kalifornia
Date: Mar 14, 2007 9:56 PM


No.
There are many people who don't like homosexuality but are still tolerant of their existence.

The homophobes that are disliked are the ones that do harm towards people. whether verbal or otherwise.
and besides, Why should we tolerate discrimination?

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: I seem to have misplaced myself, can you find me?
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 21:51


Isn't the main complaint against homophobes is that they aren't tolerant? So..if your against being homophobic..shouldn't you tolarate their homophobism? Tis an interesting concept. confused
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:04 pm


What your friend seems unable to grasp, is that there is a MAJOR difference between tolerating something and accepting it.

I tolerate the existance of Phelps and his lackeys. I do not, and will not, accept them.

Do I actively go out of my way to ruin or harm them? No, as much as I might love to. They have just as much privelage to their oppinion as I do to mine. But will I throw away every opportunity to prove to them just how Unchristian they truely are? Hells no. Especially since I don't even SHARE the religion, but understand it better than them.

I tolerate people who say that your age should dictate who you can legally date. Will I ever accept them? No.

I tolerate people who can't spell Orca whale. Will I ever accept them into my life? Not a chance.

It is completely possible to be against a particular thing, while maintaining some minimal sense of open-mindedness. That's the end of the story-book, jungen und madchen. El fin.

Bishop_Aldweiss


SubHumanRemains

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:36 pm


yeah.
i think she understands now
but yeah. its exactly like that.
smile shes one of the better ones
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:22 pm


Yondara_The ChaosMage
What your friend seems unable to grasp, is that there is a MAJOR difference between tolerating something and accepting it.

I tolerate the existance of Phelps and his lackeys. I do not, and will not, accept them.

Do I actively go out of my way to ruin or harm them? No, as much as I might love to. They have just as much privelage to their oppinion as I do to mine. But will I throw away every opportunity to prove to them just how Unchristian they truely are? Hells no. Especially since I don't even SHARE the religion, but understand it better than them.

I tolerate people who say that your age should dictate who you can legally date. Will I ever accept them? No.

I tolerate people who can't spell Orca whale. Will I ever accept them into my life? Not a chance.

It is completely possible to be against a particular thing, while maintaining some minimal sense of open-mindedness. That's the end of the story-book, jungen und madchen. El fin.


Hehehe, Fred Phelps... Around here, we don't HAVE to tolerate him, ooooh no! He has to tolerate US! He won't even come to my city because we just OWN him everytime he comes! Yay liberal college town!

Although, the age thing you mentioned? It's there for good reasons. You may think you know what you're doing at a young age, but you don't, and that can cause trouble. Besides, it's actually just for sexual contact, not dating. Regardless, it is against the social norm of our society.

Karnell


SubHumanRemains

PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:37 pm


hm.
I changed her mind
about a lot of things

even got her to question her own religion.

she's happier now.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:27 am


I have two friends who I can't tell. Can't. I have a third friend who I haven't told but only because it's never been brought up. But these two friends are sooooo right-wing, they'd never understand what bisexuality is and they would look down on me for not being straight. I mean one already thinks I'm going to hell for being a Wiccan but I don't want to stretch the friendship anymore because we don't talk about religion and stuff but...

People say "if theyd hate you for being bi, theyre not the sort of friends you want." Yeah well whoever says that doesn't go to a school of 300 people TOTAL. Friends are a privelege here.

So...yeah.

Loki Iago

Anxious Scamp

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