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Stronghearted11

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:48 pm


ive always wanted to learn sicilian, b/c my grandparents speak it

doesn't anyone here know any sicilian?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:12 pm


I'm learning Italian...but not specifically the Sicilian dialect. It's a bit further from what I'm learning. whee

Here's I site a remember looking at awhile ago to satisfy my curiosity. It has some phrases and stuff:

http://italian.about.com/od/sicilian/a/aa050405a_3.htm?terms=sicilian

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Stronghearted11

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:54 pm


thnx! pharses i think are all i'll be able to remember anyways lol, but still, if anyone knows any other things like verbs and conjugations, t'would be ecellente!
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:02 am


Don't your grandparents understand standard Italian too? Just a curiosity...

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419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:44 am


I thought this was an independent language?

I would love to learn dialects of LA BELLA LINGUA ITALIAN
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:02 pm


My boss is a native speaker of Sicillian; she said it's very heavily diallectualized. I got the impression that it's sort of like certain dialects of American English (IE: Hawaiian Creole, Ebonics) where one has to put a bit of effort into making sure that one stays with the 'standard' dialect some of the time because others might have a hard time understanding it.

lili of the lamplight


Kimyanji

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:45 pm


I've researched Sicillian and found that a lot of its vocabulary is actually Arabic. I don't think it's a Semitic language because I do not believe it has a triconsonental root system. I was right it doesn't.

Maltese, however, is a Semitic language, but we're not talking about Maltese; We're talking about Sicillian.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:37 pm


I would like to inform you all...
Sicilian is an entirely different language than Italian. Trust me... I am able to speak nearly fluent Italian, but when I met a Sicilian, I wasnt able to understand a word of what he was saying. I would also like to point out that Sicily has influences of many languages.
It was ruled/taken over by:

1. Greeks (duh)
2. Etruscans (Indo-European languages)
3. Romans (Latin)
4. Castillians (Spanish)
5. Aragons (Aragonese, which, now-a-days, is a dialect of Spanish)
6. Moors (Arabic)
7. Libyans (Tribal languages + Arabic)
8. French (duh)
9. German (duh)
10. English (duh)
11. Ottoman Empire (Turkish + Arabic)
12. Spain (duh)
13. Italy (YAY)

Sicilian picked up different aspects of all these languages. It is impossible to understand!

sono italiano


sono italiano

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:44 pm


Koko.Dk
I thought this was an independent language?

I would love to learn dialects of LA BELLA LINGUA ITALIAN

Trust me, Sicilian IS an independent language. Also, if you're planning on learning a dialect, I suggest Napoletano, it is SO much fun to speak.
And, for some laughs:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjodeC-fpzc
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:19 am


Let's show them..




I think that you should learn FIRST the language of the whole Country (Italian) and THEN its dialects.

I love dialects, but they are not indipendent languages.
they formed with the accumulations of lots of different languages, and sicilian is an example of this.

Italy is a formal country only since the 19th century. before that time, it was splitted in lots of little reigns and countries, and each of them spoke their tipycall language, that is the actual dialet of this region.

Sicily has a long story of foreing dominations, such as greeks, spanish, arabians, and all their languages influenced the dialet of the island.

but we can't forget that italian (as a language) was born in the 13th century: from 13th to 19th century, it was spread (of course with lots of difficulties) all over the country and all the literary men knew it and used it in their works of art - and it was like this also for the sicilian poets.

so, lots of italian words, part of italian grammar and construction went into the basic dialet.

with the exception of the language spoken in Sardinia and the old language of Friuli Venezia Giulia, that are proper indipendent romance languages, sicilian is a dialet.
that means that it has a relationship with the language of the Country, that's a relationship of substrate and sostrate.
in fact, since the dialects were spoken till the 19th century and over, lots of dialectal words went into italian and became italian words, known and spoken by every scholarized italian.

so, although sicily is really different from italian, they are related.. I think it would be good learning italian, and then see what difference there are between it and sicilian.

Don't forget the pronunciation! Sicilian has a different vocalism than italian, but both come from latin vocalism, so knowing a little latin would help ^__^



..that we can.

eledh


sono italiano

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:13 pm


That may be true, but it doesnt remove the fact that sicilian is not mutually inteligible with neither mainstream/modern standard italian nor the majority of its dialects
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