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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:29 pm
Well Saddam is dead, what are your thoughts about it???
Then Y'shua said to him, "Put your sword back into its place, for all those who take the sword will die by the sword." Matthew 26:52
Saddam lived his whole life by the sword and on the graves of thousands of people. Saddam went to his death unrepentant and full of lies. He recited a verse from the quran which did him no good. His last words were the biggest lies of all 'allah' hu akkbar and 'palestine' is Arab. 'allah hu akkbar' translates to 'allah' is the greatest... allah is the name of the Arab moon deity hubal... if Saddam wanted to speak truth in his last words he should have said Yasuo' hu AKKBAR!... Jesus is the GREATEST! As for his remark about 'palestine' I think he wanted those de facto Arabs living in Arab-occupied Israel to 'revenge' his death against his enemy, Israel. So far no Arab group other than the 'palestinians' have really been saddened or vowed revenge on his death.
I think that what we as Christians should do is pray for Iraq and that the LORD leads it's people to accept the Truth that is Y'shua (Jesus) and give them the boldness to shout Yasuo' hu AKKBAR! Yasuo' al RAB!!(Jesus is the GREATEST!! and Jesus is LORD!) Let us also remember those killed in Iraq's holocaust, not only the 143 in Dujail but the 100's of 1000's of Kurds and other Iraqis we are just finding out about!
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:08 am
Nice post. Yeah, what Saddam did is horrible and a crime against humanity. I'm glad he's dead, now his sadistic nature has turned on him. The government has the power to weild the sword and thats exactly what happened.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:42 pm
Yes, I think that's definately a good thing to pray for. I didn't really pay attention to the whole thing...I just heard he was hanged and that was that.
But it must be sad. Imagine living your whole life proclaiming something that is completely false. Imagine killing people for the sake of a god that does not exist. Imagine beleiving in something so much that you would die for it, only to find that it was not true. Saddam clearly thought he was in the right, or else those would not have been his dying words. But just imagine after his death, looking into the very Face of the God whom he has hated for so long. The Bible says that every knee will bow, and I imagine that those who do not wish to do so willingly will end up like king Belchazzar (sorry...did not spell that right, and I'm too lazy to look it up) in Daniel chapter 5 where his knees knocked together and his hips snapped and he fell to his knees. I wonder what he would say to the world now, knowing what he does.
lol, yes, this is what I think about...but it's interesting to me...
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:09 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:01 pm
We're just a step closer to a better world. Now we just have to have faith in the lord to bring our soldiers home safe and rid the worl of terrorism. biggrin
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:18 am
x_Hikari_x Yes, I think that's definately a good thing to pray for. I didn't really pay attention to the whole thing...I just heard he was hanged and that was that.
But it must be sad. Imagine living your whole life proclaiming something that is completely false. Imagine killing people for the sake of a god that does not exist. Imagine beleiving in something so much that you would die for it, only to find that it was not true. Saddam clearly thought he was in the right, or else those would not have been his dying words. But just imagine after his death, looking into the very Face of the God whom he has hated for so long. The Bible says that every knee will bow, and I imagine that those who do not wish to do so willingly will end up like king Belchazzar (sorry...did not spell that right, and I'm too lazy to look it up) in Daniel chapter 5 where his knees knocked together and his hips snapped and he fell to his knees. I wonder what he would say to the world now, knowing what he does.
lol, yes, this is what I think about...but it's interesting to me... I don't like the fact that you wrote that as if to say that he was wrong to not believe in Christanity, because remeber it is only your faith, and not the faith of everyone, remember we won't really find out the truth until we are dead.. anyway that isn't what this is about ... I think it wrong to have killed Saddam, I'm really annoyed about it, because I feel that it will just lead to more fighting, and less actually trying to sort out the problem. He should have just been up in solitary confinment for the rest of his life, because isn't just sitting there waiting to die worse that actually dying? Thats just what I think.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:37 am
I don't like the fact that you wrote that as if to say that he was wrong to not believe in Christanity, because remeber it is only your faith, and not the faith of everyone, remember we won't really find out the truth until we are dead..
anyway that isn't what this is about ...
I think it wrong to have killed Saddam, I'm really annoyed about it, because I feel that it will just lead to more fighting, and less actually trying to sort out the problem. He should have just been up in solitary confinment for the rest of his life, because isn't just sitting there waiting to die worse that actually dying?
Thats just what I think.
Yes exactly when we killed Saddam we only made him into a martyr, now we will have even more radical terrorist groups out there blaming the US for the death of a "great man" in there words. I don't believe that we should be able to take the lives of others like that. War is one thing but did god ever give us permission to kill someone in a court of law. "Those who are blameless you cast the first stone."-Jesus Thats just my two cents
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:02 pm
Well, I figured that since this was a Christian guild, that it would be okay to state something like that. But perhaps I should have included that I really believe Christianity to be true, hence my argument. I didn't necessarily mean that he was wrong not to, just misguided.
I also don't really agree with the whole death penalty. I guess it's just legalized murder, when you think about it. Taking a human life, no matter how horrible the things they did were, is never right, in my books.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:06 pm
Ksam I don't like the fact that you wrote that as if to say that he was wrong to not believe in Christanity, because remeber it is only your faith, and not the faith of everyone, remember we won't really find out the truth until we are dead.. anyway that isn't what this is about ... I think it wrong to have killed Saddam, I'm really annoyed about it, because I feel that it will just lead to more fighting, and less actually trying to sort out the problem. He should have just been up in solitary confinment for the rest of his life, because isn't just sitting there waiting to die worse that actually dying? Thats just what I think. Any one who doesn't proclaim that Jesus Christ is LORD is bound for hell PERIOD! There is no 'my truth' or 'your truth' there in ONE TRUTH and His Name is Jesus! Jesus said in John 14:6 "I AM the Way the Truth and the Life no man comes to the Father but by Me." You say you are annoyed the Iraqi Government killed Saddam? ARE YOU CRAZY? He was tyrant! He killed 148 people in Dujail and at least hundreds of thousands of Kurds, other ethnic Iraqis, he killed his brother-in-law on live TV and even his sons-in-laws, let me tell you the world is better off that he is dead. There is no paradise or 72 virgins waiting on Saddam, his soul is in hell and will be plunged into the lake of fire to burn for all eternity. It would have been a grave injustice for him to live. Saddam tortured people, being civilized the Iraqi Goverment killed him quickly. Why let him take up jail space? Why spend money to house, feed and clothe him? Why pay guards to watch him? Jails and prisons are meant to be temporary not permanent. They are for people who hopefully one day will be rehabilitated. There was no rehab for a mass murderer like Saddam! Even the Bible has provisions for killing a person who has committed manslaughter (Numbers 35:9-34)
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:08 pm
In a way, I think that Saddam should have lived. He should have been forced to spend his life uncomfortably in prison, and he should have had the counselling that many murderers have.
This counselling enables them to relive their moments of killing, to actually feel the gore and violence, feel for their victims... The point is so the killers will eventually show remorse and see the horror in murder.
I wanted Saddam to realise the horror of his crimes and have to live with that shame and guilt every single day until the day he died. Who knows, maybe he would have repented?
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:48 pm
Scabby Bee In a way, I think that Saddam should have lived. He should have been forced to spend his life uncomfortably in prison, and he should have had the counselling that many murderers have. This counselling enables them to relive their moments of killing, to actually feel the gore and violence, feel for their victims... The point is so the killers will eventually show remorse and see the horror in murder. I wanted Saddam to realise the horror of his crimes and have to live with that shame and guilt every single day until the day he died. Who knows, maybe he would have repented? i agree.the iraqi goverment killing a murder like saddam makes them also murders and also under their own rules punishable by death too... no one but God has the right to talk away another's life.if we murdered everyone who did us wrong the world would be a horrible place and i'm sure i'd be murdered by now.i dont think you have to christian to be saved-the jews and muslims are also mentioned in the bible and follow similiar rules.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:49 pm
PoppyDadswell Scabby Bee In a way, I think that Saddam should have lived. He should have been forced to spend his life uncomfortably in prison, and he should have had the counselling that many murderers have. This counselling enables them to relive their moments of killing, to actually feel the gore and violence, feel for their victims... The point is so the killers will eventually show remorse and see the horror in murder. I wanted Saddam to realise the horror of his crimes and have to live with that shame and guilt every single day until the day he died. Who knows, maybe he would have repented? i agree.the iraqi goverment killing a murder like saddam makes them also murders and also under their own rules punishable by death too... no one but God has the right to talk away another's life.if we murdered everyone who did us wrong the world would be a horrible place and i'm sure i'd be murdered by now.i dont think you have to christian to be saved-the jews and muslims are also mentioned in the bible and follow similiar laws to christians.this murder will cause a backlash.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:17 pm
famusamu Ksam I don't like the fact that you wrote that as if to say that he was wrong to not believe in Christanity, because remeber it is only your faith, and not the faith of everyone, remember we won't really find out the truth until we are dead.. anyway that isn't what this is about ... I think it wrong to have killed Saddam, I'm really annoyed about it, because I feel that it will just lead to more fighting, and less actually trying to sort out the problem. He should have just been up in solitary confinment for the rest of his life, because isn't just sitting there waiting to die worse that actually dying? Thats just what I think. Any one who doesn't proclaim that Jesus Christ is LORD is bound for hell PERIOD! There is no 'my truth' or 'your truth' there in ONE TRUTH and His Name is Jesus! Jesus said in John 14:6 "I AM the Way the Truth and the Life no man comes to the Father but by Me." You say you are annoyed the Iraqi Government killed Saddam? ARE YOU CRAZY? He was tyrant! He killed 148 people in Dujail and at least hundreds of thousands of Kurds, other ethnic Iraqis, he killed his brother-in-law on live TV and even his sons-in-laws, let me tell you the world is better off that he is dead. There is no paradise or 72 virgins waiting on Saddam, his soul is in hell and will be plunged into the lake of fire to burn for all eternity. It would have been a grave injustice for him to live. Saddam tortured people, being civilized the Iraqi Goverment killed him quickly. Why let him take up jail space? Why spend money to house, feed and clothe him? Why pay guards to watch him? Jails and prisons are meant to be temporary not permanent. They are for people who hopefully one day will be rehabilitated. There was no rehab for a mass murderer like Saddam! Even the Bible has provisions for killing a person who has committed manslaughter (Numbers 35:9-34) Like I said I didn't really want to go into the whole I don't believe in Christanity, we should just save that for another topic, this is about Saddam not moi.... Sure he killed loads of men, women, and children, but I'd much rather see him live another 20 years having minimal food, and no contact with the outside world and no light than see him stuggling for breath for 5 minutes or however long it takes people to hang. Like I said in my first post, sitting there waiting to die is a lot worse than dying.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:18 pm
PoppyDadswell Scabby Bee In a way, I think that Saddam should have lived. He should have been forced to spend his life uncomfortably in prison, and he should have had the counselling that many murderers have. This counselling enables them to relive their moments of killing, to actually feel the gore and violence, feel for their victims... The point is so the killers will eventually show remorse and see the horror in murder. I wanted Saddam to realise the horror of his crimes and have to live with that shame and guilt every single day until the day he died. Who knows, maybe he would have repented? i agree.the iraqi goverment killing a murder like saddam makes them also murders and also under their own rules punishable by death too... no one but God has the right to talk away another's life.if we murdered everyone who did us wrong the world would be a horrible place and i'm sure i'd be murdered by now.i dont think you have to christian to be saved-the jews and muslims are also mentioned in the bible and follow similiar rules. G-d commanded the Children of Yisrael to rise up and kill many peoples He passed judgement on, just read the books of Exodus and Joshua. Once again I site Numbers 35:9-34, It's not murder to kill a killer.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:02 pm
famusamu PoppyDadswell Scabby Bee In a way, I think that Saddam should have lived. He should have been forced to spend his life uncomfortably in prison, and he should have had the counselling that many murderers have. This counselling enables them to relive their moments of killing, to actually feel the gore and violence, feel for their victims... The point is so the killers will eventually show remorse and see the horror in murder. I wanted Saddam to realise the horror of his crimes and have to live with that shame and guilt every single day until the day he died. Who knows, maybe he would have repented? i agree.the iraqi goverment killing a murder like saddam makes them also murders and also under their own rules punishable by death too... no one but God has the right to talk away another's life.if we murdered everyone who did us wrong the world would be a horrible place and i'm sure i'd be murdered by now.i dont think you have to christian to be saved-the jews and muslims are also mentioned in the bible and follow similiar rules. G-d commanded the Children of Yisrael to rise up and kill many peoples He passed judgement on, just read the books of Exodus and Joshua. Once again I site Numbers 35:9-34, It's not murder to kill a killer. I don't think its correct to believe the Bible word for word (and I know most Christians don't), but still the idea of killing someone else doesn't seem right to me, not matter what they have done.
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