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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:00 pm
I live in a 1 story house with my mom, step-dady, and sister. We havn't totally fixed our house yet which means there have been some problems. There is this little whole comming from the outside into our house that has been chewed. A month or so ago my mom heard something crunching really loud in the kitchen. She woke up my step-dad and they walked into the kitchen. They let the cats out of their room, the dogs were barking etc. My step-dad opens this little door underneath the oven and there is this HUGE mouse underneath. My cat Jerry tried to get it but the mouse escaped.
3 days ago (Wednesday) I woke up at 5am for no reason. I tried falling back asleep but I was too awake so I went into the living room and wenton the computer. All of a sudden I hear these VERY loud crunching noises comming from the kitchen. I let the cats out and they investigate the sink. I open the cupbourds and there is this whole there so I covered it up. I think it was a mouse.
What should I do about this? We can't have wild mice living in out house. They could have some sort of illness or rabies etc. I don't know what I should do.
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:19 pm
When I was really young my house was invaded by mice. My parents bought humane traps that let the mice live. They didn't kill them but rather trapped them until someone found them to let them go. My dad baited them with peanut butter and let them loose in a nearby canyon. Soon they were all gone and no mice had to die biggrin
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:35 pm
Yes, but humanely trapping them doesn't always work. We had over five humane traps for a mouse we discovered in our house and the intelligent little bugger just nibbled the treats enough to keep from getting snagged and even left us some 'presents' in them as a formal thank you.
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If you have to resort to non-humane measures, I don't blame you. Sometimes it's necessary when it comes to your own home's safety. Just try all other outlets first before doing so. In our case, we just blocked the hole he used to come through and he left on his own accord without trying to get in a second time. -shrug- Depends on the mouse/mice really..
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:28 pm
Interesting... mice are little buggers sometimes LoL
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:35 pm
I've cleaned up mouse infestations in several houses on our street, in a tyre warehouse and a school. If you're looking for effective mouse control go with a decent live trap that can hold multiple animals. I prefer them to the single catch kill traps simply because you can catch more with less. 3nodding Bait with a strong, fatty smelling lure. A bit of leftover lasagna or other pasta is my personal favourite. 3nodding Place trap where you know the mouse/mice are frequenting, making it easy for them to get into the trap is much better than making them work to get into it.
The live traps really are great. I pulled seven with one trap overnight once.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:04 am
I've never experienced a big mouse problem, so I couldn't really give you any reliable advice.
When I was younger, my uncle would bait mousetraps with cheese (how cliche, hah) and put them in the darker nooks and crannies of our house. I didn't agree with it once I actually realised how the traps work. Go for the humane traps, I'd agree.
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:37 pm
Aufstandkind When I was really young my house was invaded by mice. My parents bought humane traps that let the mice live. They didn't kill them but rather trapped them until someone found them to let them go. My dad baited them with peanut butter and let them loose in a nearby canyon. Soon they were all gone and no mice had to die biggrin I agree LET HIM/HER LIVE!! Don't sick your cat's on him, that is a horrible way to die. I have five cat's and there nature is to play with there food (torture) Please use Aufstandkind's idea!! It's to most sensible!
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:15 pm
Haha, um, well...cats fulfill an important part of the ecosystem and I'm not comfortable saying that it's not right. A cat does what a cat does and I honestly think it's a bad idea for humans to interfere in an animal's natural behavior. At this point we can't really have a say in it, nature is violent and often cruel in the eyes of people but the animal kingdom is incapable of seeing it like that. It's unfair to impose our morality upon them.
That said, if you're taking it into your own hands to take care of the mouse it'd be nice to use live traps. What your cat does is its own instinct but as far as human involvement goes live traps would be the nicest choice I think.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:58 pm
Aufstandkind Haha, um, well...cats fulfill an important part of the ecosystem and I'm not comfortable saying that it's not right. A cat does what a cat does and I honestly think it's a bad idea for humans to interfere in an animal's natural behavior. At this point we can't really have a say in it, nature is violent and often cruel in the eyes of people but the animal kingdom is incapable of seeing it like that. It's unfair to impose our morality upon them. That said, if you're taking it into your own hands to take care of the mouse it'd be nice to use live traps. What your cat does is its own instinct but as far as human involvement goes live traps would be the nicest choice I think. I guess that's your opinion. I believe it's natural for lions and tigers or stray cat's to catch food, to survive. But I don't like it when my cat's kill mice and squirrels and stuff. They have food, water shelter and Me to care for them. They have no reason to kill those animals. Like you said it's there nature, and it's my nature to feel compassion for the birds and mice they kill. I don't think letting that girls cat kill the mouse is the right thing to do because im sure her cat is well fed. The mouse deserves to live!! Unless her cat's starving theres no point in having a cat torture the mouse(play with it till it dies) So please use the live traps if you have not already killed it.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:30 pm
Yeah, well, you're entitled to your opinion but I think it's silly to expect animals to conform to human ideals. It reminds me of those people who feed carnivorous pets vegan food on the erronious idea that "They've been eating grains for decades". Yes, they have, but they've been eating meat for millenia and dry kibble is very unhealthy for them in the first place. They may have food, but frankly when my cat got outside (escape artist, I didn't let her out) and started hunting there was a marked improvement in her health. She had a healthier coat, better teeth, bad breath all but vanished, and she had a lot more energy. I changed her died to entirely high-quality wet food and she's never looked better. I just think people over-moniter nature to a redicilous extent and I can't help but roll my eyes at a lot of things people say.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:09 pm
Aufstandkind Yeah, well, you're entitled to your opinion but I think it's silly to expect animals to conform to human ideals. It reminds me of those people who feed carnivorous pets vegan food on the erronious idea that "They've been eating grains for decades". Yes, they have, but they've been eating meat for millenia and dry kibble is very unhealthy for them in the first place. They may have food, but frankly when my cat got outside (escape artist, I didn't let her out) and started hunting there was a marked improvement in her health. She had a healthier coat, better teeth, bad breath all but vanished, and she had a lot more energy. I changed her died to entirely high-quality wet food and she's never looked better. I just think people over-moniter nature to a redicilous extent and I can't help but roll my eyes at a lot of things people say. Well I take good care of my cat's.. they don't need to end the life of another just for there own amusment. My cat's never eat the poor things any ways. I rarely see that the animal they killed was actually eaten. It's probably that they were full from the "healthy" food we gave them. But like you said it's their nature to want to hunt. I still feel bad for the creature they killed. Anyone that owns a pet is making their pet conform. You do it to!! If you have a cat living in your home it's conforming. Otherwise she would be out in the world living like wild cats. Have you or your parents ever gotten mad at your cat for peeing on your stuff? Or for going on the counters where you eat?? Sure I get upset if my cat pees in my shoes, who wouldn't. I don't punish her for it but i still get upset. But the cat was only doing what was in it's nature. To mark it's teritory. So In a way I want her to conform to my human ideals, so she isn't peeing on my stuff. But im not going to make her.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:17 pm
Aufstandkind They may have food, but frankly when my cat got outside (escape artist, I didn't let her out) . She had to escape to get outside?? So she isn't outside on a regular basis?? You roll your eyes at me for feeling bad for the mice my cat's kill. And you keep your cat kooped up. My cat's have lived ripe ages of 13 or 14. They are outside alot of the time, it's good for them. My sister's friend had a cat live in their apartment, I have never seen a more miserable cat. People that live in Cities should not own cats. They get run over on the roads to easily. And to prevent that they keep there animals in the house all the time. That's torture! Cat's need to be in fresh air for a good portion of their day..
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:25 pm
Oh my god, here we go. I'm not going to justify myself. I could give you the whole picture but I really don't want to get into it. My job in this guild is to keep the peace and make sure everything is in order. Arguing on it doesn't make it easier or better. I'm sorry there's been a dispute. I guess if you really want to sling insults you can do it in a PM. I'd prefer not to. This derail has gone long enough, the thread was made to ask what to do with a mouse problem and I'd appreciate it if debates were kept to the proper forum and not to this innocent poster's thread.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:25 pm
Anyways it's rare to find people who care about animals the way we do. Alot of people abuse and neglect animals. It's best we don't fight over something like this. We could be focusing our energy on helping animals. Instead of fighting about who cares more about them.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:27 pm
Well, I appreciate the sentiment but I wasn't arguing for that reason. You and I are on totally different pages here. Thank you for dropping it.
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