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Subrosian
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:07 pm


Being new to the guild I was pretty shy about starting a topic of my own, but I've decided to post an assignment I once did for my english class, which contains theories on energy and the creation of spirits and gods, labeled as "They." Keep in mind this is part story, in the form of examples, and make note that this is an open opinion and not necessary my set-in-stone beliefs. Also realize that this was a school project I had to read aloud to my fellow 10th graders...[Although I think I put them to sleep that day.] Thanks in advance for those who take the time to read everything.
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Everyone wonders it: do spirits exist? Are ghosts real? What about angels and demons? Or God? Does God exist? The question is asked to the winds every day. The answer is out there.
They are memories. They are emotions. It is They that we fear, and They that we revere. We don’t know why They are there. But the truth is, They are there because we are here. And vice-versa.
Every time we think, we feel, and remember, we emit energy. It takes energy to think, does it not? The energy we emit is what forms Them. The emotions, the thoughts that seem to go away? They are the ones who absorb it. It is how They get there in the first place. We think and feel all the time. When we leave it behind, it mixes, especially in places we visit often. The emotions stick together and form a partial conscience. That is how They are born. They grow and feed on the excess. They are just the thoughts we leave behind, and that is why ghosts exist as well. When we die, we leave energy behind. This energy forms into a mass, and that is our Ghost. They can be actual people, or just collective thought. That is how They work and exist. This is why some of Them are weak, where others are strong. When They can find enough spiritual energy, They feed on it. It is how They survive.
Every weekday when a boy went to school, to his locker, he couldn’t help thinking, “I hate this place” every time. The thought was powerful enough, and since it happened every day, it was reinforced. It mixed together with the passing thoughts of the students passing by, slowly becoming stronger as the original thought continued to be reinforced. With enough thoughts absorbed, the partial conscious was formed, and that is how one of Them was born. This particular one slowly became stronger and stronger. And because the original thought was so negative, it slowly absorbed more and more energy, even draining some from the boy who had “created” it. His other mental energy was absorbed, and thus this member of Them became a ‘He’, able to see, think, and have an appearance, which it had copied partially from the boy and other passerby. No longer needing the boy, He fed on other types of energy. Any sound emitted around His “nest”, the locker, would die down quicker than usual, but to an un-detectable degree.
A year or so passes, and the boy graduates from school. However, the new “owner” of the locker isn’t much more positive. She is terribly afraid of everything, and every day, coerced by ‘His’ need for repetition, she thought, around the same time the other boy thought, “hate”, “I fear for myself today.” This too, was a powerful feeling that she left behind. Her new output of thoughts let Him expand even more. He learned fear as well, the fear of dying if He did not find enough energy. Thus He began to leave His “nest” at night, when there was a lack of energy. “Hate,” He repeated to the empty hallways. “Fear,” echoed down the emptiness.
Another year passes. Two people share the locker now. They’re brainiacs, and since they always compare their ideas with another, they share the place. He, however, finds them very useful indeed. All their notes faded fairly quickly, even the ones in pen, and the textbooks they stored. Unfortunately, these two were studying the occult. So He learned at an alarming rate. By the end of the year, the locker had become very eerie indeed. Inerasable words and equations suddenly would appear as the locker was opened. They were all negative. He was calculating how to survive. He was trying to figure out how to become even more powerful. And each day He got a little further. New hauntings were everywhere. He would wander the halls even in the day, invisible, but not completely unnoticed. The students felt more drained wherever He was. He feasted on any excess they could offer, and even sapped off more.
The next school year never started. A locker had started emitted screaming sounds so loud it ruined the hearing of many people. He had acquired such a need for energy, that by the time summer vacation started, He could not obtain enough to survive. His spiritual make-up collapsed in on itself, and He became stuck in a loop, dying, but not dying. That is why the school was eventually closed down. No one could do anything about it. So the building is empty, thanks to a boy and girl’s negative thoughts, and two occultist’s studies. Until the day the locker is demolished, He will scream at the top of his lungs; HATE…! FEAR…! Trapped forever in a vortex of suffering.
So now you understand ghosts and spirits. But what about the rest? Where does belief come into this? How is God possible? It is simple, and was just mentioned. Belief. Belief is what reasserts things; faith in something is what helps make it possible. It is a spiritual energy so vague that there is no way of detecting it. Belief, positive power, prayers or assertions that we admit is what makes it possible. Who is God? Well, God is whatever you want it to be. Male, female, neither, it doesn’t matter. The truth is that the collective energy of the universe is God. The rest are just the most powerful spirits in existence, each over their own domain. Prophets enforce their beliefs. Prayers do, as well. Angels and demons are the same way; energy enforced with belief. Any of these may have Their own idea of exactly what They are. If strong enough, They can see all. They can perform miracles. All it takes is just a bit of belief and prayer. Energy is the sole medium for everything. It is Energy…that is all it takes for anything to be possible. So remember this, and question it. Study it. Do as you please with it. In the end, it all depends on YOU.


Thanks again to anyone who bothered to read all of that. I'd like to know anyone's opinion, unless you just want to flame my idea D: don't hurt the guild newb's feelings, I'd prefer. Well, hopefully I'll be receiving some response~and anyone can feel free to PM me for whatever reason!

~Sub
PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:24 am


I'm very sorry, but it's Thanksgiving and I'm tired and need to be cleaning up for Guests in a half hour >.< I promise I shall read it all and respond tomorrow if possible ^_^

ambrose_sallia


Joshua_Ritter
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Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:09 pm


Fascinating. The basic premise of the writing reminded me of my own thoughts, in my Dissertation thread. Main forum, see if you can find it. You seem to present more of a deistic theory where energy/"Real" God is still supreme, and all others are qualitatively different, being made up of energy and requiring it, where as mine is more of a Nietzschean transvaluation of all values idea, which creates a structure with no inherent meaning but is still motivated to do things. But, if you write this some time ago, then you have ursurped me, as I thought myself the creator of such ideas but made them only recently. If you do more like this, I really want to see it.

And welcome to the guild. I personally invite you to post, make topics, write. pleeeease. I look forward to more from you.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:39 pm


Joshua_Ritter
Fascinating. The basic premise of the writing reminded me of my own thoughts, in my Dissertation thread. Main forum, see if you can find it. You seem to present more of a deistic theory where energy/"Real" God is still supreme, and all others are qualitatively different, being made up of energy and requiring it, where as mine is more of a Nietzschean transvaluation of all values idea, which creates a structure with no inherent meaning but is still motivated to do things. But, if you write this some time ago, then you have ursurped me, as I thought myself the creator of such ideas but made them only recently. If you do more like this, I really want to see it.

And welcome to the guild. I personally invite you to post, make topics, write. pleeeease. I look forward to more from you.


I had saw your thread earlier actually! And no, I didn't go and run with it, but it did catch me by surprise about how much it made me think of this paper I had written probably a month or so ago. As for usurping you, I wouldn't give me too much credit. There are so many ideas in the world had by many people, and that credit for who had the idea "first" doesn't really matter. Actually, your thread had made me eager to write more about such topics, and I plan to do so.

Thank you so much for the encouragement! I plan to follow up with a more in-depth description/example about the creation of deities, and perhaps one on Jehovah, the god of three monotheistic religions we've come to know of all too well. sweatdrop

Edit: Oh, and-upon reading your Dissertation thread again I'd like to assure you you're not the only one who writes huge philosophical pieces shortly before collapsing 3nodding

Subrosian
Captain


Joshua_Ritter
Crew

Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:47 pm


Hah. The more tired I get, the bigger words I use. It's pretty funny. I'm glad someone takes interest in the same type of subject: Thought I was the only one. It really interests me. And I really look forward to whatever you do. Please, contribute to the guild as much as possible.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:08 am


My next theory may very well be written and posted by the time you check again. xd

Subrosian
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Laren

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:40 am


In general I agree, but I think your example lacks a certain phenomenological punch necessary to drive home the theory.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:50 pm


Laren
In general I agree, but I think your example lacks a certain phenomenological punch necessary to drive home the theory.

*couldn't dig deep enough to find the definition of phenomenological* sweatdrop as for the example part of the "theory", keep in mind that when I had written it, it wasn't advertised as one sweatdrop [Why do things like this make me sweat so!?]

Working on the next one...x.x

Subrosian
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ambrose_sallia

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:38 pm


A very nice theory ^_^ I must say that there are a few details I don't believe to be true, but for the most part the idea is not only possible, but I think quite probable 3nodding And an interesting read, as well whee Sorry it took so very long to respond x_x Recent events in life ^^;; My short time on gaia was limited to answering PMs and dashing off. xp I found the time, though, and read this 3nodding
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