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 Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:40 pm
I think Saku came up with an interesting question on another thread, so I figured I'd place it elsewhere and check opinions.....why do you study martial arts if a gun can defeat it?In my opinion, although a lot of people pack heat in certain places, guns can run out of ammo, and you can't necessarily pack a gun into a club. I'm also a firm believer that although I will learn to use firearms at some point, Gun+Training+MA Training>Gun+Training. Hence, I do it for self defense, health, and because I still consider it an amazing thing. Opinions?
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:52 pm
I traing in martial arts because I can bring my MA skills anywhere legally. I do, however, carry a knife nearly everywhere I go....especially when I'm going to my girl's house(she lives in the ghetto area of my city) and when I go to my gym in Oceanside(its Oceanside....).
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:04 pm
Bruce-Ganked-Lee I traing in martial arts because I can bring my MA skills anywhere legally. I do, however, carry a knife nearly everywhere I go....especially when I'm going to my girl's house(she lives in the ghetto area of my city) and when I go to my gym in Oceanside(its Oceanside....). I'd carry a knife, but my school would have my a** if I got busted with one on campus. I wouldn't mind carrying some fiberglass knuckles, though...I saw a few places online that were selling them, so those might come in handy...I also completely agree on the "MA anywhere I go" thing..I had a former roommate that was obsessed with guns, and thought he couldn't take Martial Arts because of his Asthma......I pity the guy if he's out of ammo.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:14 pm
Why train? That's like a 14 year old goth way to look at it "Why bother, it doesn't have a point, we are all doomed staring in the barrel of the gun" you know?
As for you weapon woes. It's been said alot... you can make weapons out of alot of things. Go to an army surplus store, they got these palmstick/fist filler keychain things. I found them awesome. Or just a well made pen would work. Start wearing rings? Or just get a conceilable blade somewhere.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:21 pm
J. Thorn I wouldn't mind carrying some fiberglass knuckles, though. Which websites are selling that? I googled it and came up with nothing. (But I suck at research.) And does anyone have any other suggestions for concealable weapons, other than the extendable baton and brass knuckles? I'm considering buying a weapon in a year or two, and I just want to know what's out there. I'll answer the main question of this thread later on, when I have more time, since it'll probably be pretty long.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:34 pm
CelestialDreamz J. Thorn I wouldn't mind carrying some fiberglass knuckles, though. Which websites are selling that? I googled it and came up with nothing. (But I suck at research.) And does anyone have any other suggestions for concealable weapons, other than the extendable baton and brass knuckles? I'm considering buying a weapon in a year or two, and I just want to know what's out there. I'll answer the main question of this thread later on, when I have more time, since it'll probably be pretty long. Balisongs *nods* Well, you just got to think creatively. Theres a few handfuls of palmsized weapons, such as the kermabit (sp?) Im interested in those... theres so many variations on it. Edit: http://www.mailameal.com/dyn/d2215.3204.sets.unbreak.plastic.shaped.brass.knuckles.cmsIm not sure if they're that strong, but, they'd look pretty decent. Smart Idea to get through metal detectors.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:21 pm
(reposted from the thread J was speaking of)
For me, it's because I'm quite the paranoid person. if I'd had a gun, i'd be scared stiff to use it, which is ironic, because using blunt or bladed weapons seems second nature to me now. Also, I can't afford a gun; plus I'm not of age to use one yet. Plus, you only have six shots to use if you have a concealed pistol, and my aiming is very bad (well, at least in video games it is). Another reason is because I just plain like the martial arts; you can never become the best martial artist, it's always a continual progression and that's what I enjoy about it so much.
for now, my MA weapon of choice is a pen, which I carry around with me anywhere. I have no money for a knife and if I brought one to school, it'd look suspicious. Aside from substituting as a knife, it can be substituted for a palmstick.
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:06 am
I suppose that it all depends on why one is studying martial arts. Not all of use study it in order to beat people up, or even for self defense. I study Kung Fu (not Wushu) because i love the way it looks and feels. I love the way my body reacts to it and learns from the movements. It makes me stonger and faster and more alert. Even if i am not going to beat people up, isn't this just better for my body and health. Carrying a gun cannot do these things for me...
Morrigen
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:07 pm
Morrigen I suppose that it all depends on why one is studying martial arts. Not all of use study it in order to beat people up, or even for self defense. I study Kung Fu (not Wushu) because i love the way it looks and feels. I love the way my body reacts to it and learns from the movements. It makes me stonger and faster and more alert. Even if i am not going to beat people up, isn't this just better for my body and health. Carrying a gun cannot do these things for me... Morrigen ...Dont say your name after every post... it's really gay. Reim
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:42 am
Now that I finally have time to reply to this...
I study martial arts because there's still a pretty good chance that your opponent won't have a gun. Plus, while it won't assure your victory, proper martial arts training will help you in a fight. The main reason, though, is that I love it. I love the training, I love the people I train with, I love everything about it. During the school year, I'm completely swamped with school work and I have to deal with a lot of stress and competition. The dojo is somewhere I can relax and be myself, as well as something I look forward to.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:48 am
Totally, I totaly love doing tkd and school would be too much without it,
I feel so much more confident now I know that I have a chance against someone thats attacking me- round here not many people carry weapons its more fists so MA is ideal against that form of violence..I really wasn't very fit before I did athletics but I just didn't see it going anywhere..and yes I was good at it, but once off the track it didn't matter that I did it. It was purley sport.
Where as this is great all round and easier too practise!
I do really love MA's - the sparring, the patterns... the way you learn and develop your skills and are always learning more.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:54 pm
Eight hours sat in an Exel Logistics office alone, ripping up paper for the pickers in a warehouse for food deliveries by Tesco. With rules such as "No Headphones for Music", and "No Mobile Phones", and others such as "No Fun Whatsoever", practicing forms and techniques over and over for those eight hours sure does make time fly.
Even if I do get funny looks from the other admin clerks.
Plus, I enjoy the whole aspect of it. It's fun and keeps my body in good health - comparing before, I couldn't do a single pressup on my hands, let alone a fair few on my knuckles now. Forms and set sparring boost my memory, of which is very short, and it's (debatable) good self-defence in case the need arises.
Contact sparring, both free and point, aid in confidence building, as does aiding in teaching the younger grades their syllabus for their grading. I love learning Korean term theory, too. -Shrug-
So... yeah, that about covers it. I just really, really enjoy it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:19 am
I think there seems to be one hell of a difference according to where you live. Around here the most you really have to worry about is a drunk on the street startin a fight with fists, very occasionally there's a knife involved. I've never heard of a street shooting around here. Before it became illegal I used to go to gun club, I can quite confidently put an entire clip into a dinner plate sized target at under a round per second, at over 25m with any handgun you care to mention. Over all this has done sweet FA for me personally compared to martial arts. If the world went all madmax style and I managed to get my hands on a gun then I'd be sorted, other than that its pretty damn useless. Before I started martial arts I used to carry what I called the leveler, it was a short metal cylinder weighing around half a kilo and used to fit nicely into the palm of the hand, very handy. I dont bother anymore as I have the confidence in myself that I shouldn't need it, if I do need it I'm probably ******** anyway
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:42 pm
ahhh! that stupid fishing game is so addicting!! @#*!! anyways, we take a general philosophy at our dojo. when someone says what about a gun etc. we ask where it is. if it's in their holster which is the best place to have a gun if you want to use it, then we're usually within 2 feet when this is said, by the time they can reach into the holster to grab the gun everyone in our school would have closed the gap and put several lumps onto their face. now, the general answer we get is "it's in my car" "it's at my house" etc. that doesn't do you a bit of good. on top of that, if you can't take out or disarm someone from being so close (IF your life depended on it) then most of our adults either have a gun or can shoot really well. one of our students owns a gun club and we have outings and go shooting. the hand-eye coordination gets much better the longer you do martial arts. i'm thinking of entering skeet tournies now because of it. i had some professional skeet shooters playing ahead of us and they thought i was a veteran the first time i shot. point being gun good, martial arts good, which is gooder? it's up the the person and distance, but gun + martal arts = goodest!
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:18 pm
KempoMaster ahhh! that stupid fishing game is so addicting!! @#*!! anyways, we take a general philosophy at our dojo. when someone says what about a gun etc. we ask where it is. if it's in their holster which is the best place to have a gun if you want to use it, then we're usually within 2 feet when this is said, by the time they can reach into the holster to grab the gun everyone in our school would have closed the gap and put several lumps onto their face. now, the general answer we get is "it's in my car" "it's at my house" etc. that doesn't do you a bit of good. on top of that, if you can't take out or disarm someone from being so close (IF your life depended on it) then most of our adults either have a gun or can shoot really well. one of our students owns a gun club and we have outings and go shooting. the hand-eye coordination gets much better the longer you do martial arts. i'm thinking of entering skeet tournies now because of it. i had some professional skeet shooters playing ahead of us and they thought i was a veteran the first time i shot. point being gun good, martial arts good, which is gooder? it's up the the person and distance, but gun + martal arts = goodest! Haha, I'm addicted to that fishing thing too. Glad to see you're alive, though. =D That's pretty interesting...but what if the guy comes up behind you, or doesn't give you enough time to react?
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