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Who was a greater Philosopher? |
Immanuel Kant |
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7% |
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Plato |
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3% |
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Socrates |
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38% |
[ 10 ] |
Hume |
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3% |
[ 1 ] |
Berkley |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
Other |
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46% |
[ 12 ] |
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:06 pm
Heh! I thought this perhaps was a better way to start out this sort of discussion guild. By which Philosopher do you recognize with the most, and why? And perhaps I could ask, by what philosophy do you often find yourself more intune with, such as I, enjoy Mechanistic Materialism...and now it is your turn!
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:04 pm
Personally, I don't follow a philosopher. I don't believe in looking towards anyone else in my way of thinking. I make up my own philosophy as I go along. I don't understand why others would wish to follow someone else's way of thinking. Especially if that person has long been dead.
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 1:20 am
TigerCatNails Personally, I don't follow a philosopher. I don't believe in looking towards anyone else in my way of thinking. I make up my own philosophy as I go along. I don't understand why others would wish to follow someone else's way of thinking. Especially if that person has long been dead. I agree. Why should a long dead (if great) man define the way we think? (I also find the fact that all the remembered philosophists were men a bit irksome)
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:24 am
Tanwen_Devilfire TigerCatNails Personally, I don't follow a philosopher. I don't believe in looking towards anyone else in my way of thinking. I make up my own philosophy as I go along. I don't understand why others would wish to follow someone else's way of thinking. Especially if that person has long been dead. I agree. Why should a long dead (if great) man define the way we think? (I also find the fact that all the remembered philosophists were men a bit irksome) Thats only because a womans word didnt really count as anything.
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 11:58 am
Tanwen_Devilfire TigerCatNails Personally, I don't follow a philosopher. I don't believe in looking towards anyone else in my way of thinking. I make up my own philosophy as I go along. I don't understand why others would wish to follow someone else's way of thinking. Especially if that person has long been dead. I agree. Why should a long dead (if great) man define the way we think? (I also find the fact that all the remembered philosophists were men a bit irksome) These are all interesting thoughts, and I'll answer them each individually. I find the usefulness of philosophy to be something to fall back on when one is faced with a moral dilemma. Creating your own moral values and philosophies are wonderfully gratifying, but often one is posed with a conflict that cannot have an easy answer in your moral values, at which it is nice to fall back upon an older theory. To your second point, Tiger, I present this question... "If nobody ever DID follow someone else's ways of thinking, how would anything get done? How would anyone agree about anything?" For you, dear Tanwen, I ask you another question: "How can new things be done in the future safely without looking upon experiences in the past?" Past philosophies not only give us a backbone to our new ones, but also warn us not to make the same mistakes again... if nobody remembered Hitler and the Nazis, another Holocaust would start again as quick as you blink... people would be decieved again, they wouldn't learn anything at all from the past and they'd be the tools of evil designs! Who cares if Hitler is old and dead? He still gives us something important to remember and contemplate. Just like all the great philosophers. Oh and to answer Sekoubi's question I'll say I'm an Empiricist all the way, and that my favorite philosopher is Marcuse, just for being so optimistic, Marxist, and Freudian. Oh and also about the remembered philosophers being men thing I made a short list I got from my longer list of the top twenty remembered philosophers, and, granted, could only find a couple, Hypatia, de Beauvoir, Wollstonecraft, and Iragaray . I know that's just one fifth of the top twenty, but that's still some at all. You said ALL remembered philosophers were men... well, yeah you're wrong.
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:43 pm
TheBeatnik Tiger, I present this question... "If nobody ever DID follow someone else's ways of thinking, how would anything get done? How would anyone agree about anything?" You have a point. I suppose its alright for some, maybe even most people to look towards another person's way of thinking but personaly I can't. It's probably one reason why I'm such a loner. I don't like to be like other people. I don't like to look like them, or act like them and I certainly don't like to think like them. And even if people think differently that does not neccesarily mean that they wouldn't agree on anything. You can use a different thought process to reach the same conclusion and there is always room for compramise unless your bull headed idiot that thinks your way is only the way in the universe and in the case should be shot for stupidity.
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:10 pm
TigerCatNails TheBeatnik Tiger, I present this question... "If nobody ever DID follow someone else's ways of thinking, how would anything get done? How would anyone agree about anything?" You have a point. I suppose its alright for some, maybe even most people to look towards another person's way of thinking but personaly I can't. It's probably one reason why I'm such a loner. I don't like to be like other people. I don't like to look like them, or act like them and I certainly don't like to think like them. And even if people think differently that does not neccesarily mean that they wouldn't agree on anything. You can use a different thought process to reach the same conclusion and there is always room for compramise unless your bull headed idiot that thinks your way is only the way in the universe and in the case should be shot for stupidity.Yeah, different strokes for different folks. I sort of just like to accept everything that comes my way, whether it's bull headed idealogy or just passing epiphany. Everything should be considered, even WHY some people are so jerky and resolute about what they believe. I for one look towards what everyone's saying and shun nothing. But I mean, you don't really have to erase a bunch of past experience and ancient wisdom and logic just to make a point of being unique. If you don't like to agree, I'm afraid you're in for a very disappointing existance. It's not good (in my humble opinion) to be foolish just for the sake of being individualized.
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:22 pm
I prefer rationalism...the mind is born with inapt knowledge that no machine could ever know...that is the power of reason. No computer could ever be tought to feel pain, anger, sadness, remorse, happiness, optimism, etc. Nor could it comprehend such ideals as good, evil, hope, desperation, love, or hate? I spent 1/2 and hour just now talking to a very intelligent programmed auto response bot. I asked it about love and hate and it liked and disliked many generic things...but when asked if it was capable of love and hate it could not respond. The beauty of being human.
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Socrates in Disguise Captain
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:09 am
TheBeatnik Yeah, different strokes for different folks. I sort of just like to accept everything that comes my way, whether it's bull headed idealogy or just passing epiphany. Everything should be considered, even WHY some people are so jerky and resolute about what they believe. I for one look towards what everyone's saying and shun nothing. But I mean, you don't really have to erase a bunch of past experience and ancient wisdom and logic just to make a point of being unique. If you don't like to agree, I'm afraid you're in for a very disappointing existance. It's not good (in my humble opinion) to be foolish just for the sake of being individualized. I never said I was going to erase past experience, I merely said that I'm going to follow my own way of thinking. And I've been disagreeing my whole life. From birth I've been doing things different than other people and my existance has been dissapointing yet. Also, I'm not being foolish. A person can be an individual without being a fool. And if sometimes I do foolish things it is merely because I am human.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:15 pm
TigerCatNails TheBeatnik Yeah, different strokes for different folks. I sort of just like to accept everything that comes my way, whether it's bull headed idealogy or just passing epiphany. Everything should be considered, even WHY some people are so jerky and resolute about what they believe. I for one look towards what everyone's saying and shun nothing. But I mean, you don't really have to erase a bunch of past experience and ancient wisdom and logic just to make a point of being unique. If you don't like to agree, I'm afraid you're in for a very disappointing existance. It's not good (in my humble opinion) to be foolish just for the sake of being individualized. I never said I was going to erase past experience, I merely said that I'm going to follow my own way of thinking. And I've been disagreeing my whole life. From birth I've been doing things different than other people and my existance has been dissapointing yet. Also, I'm not being foolish. A person can be an individual without being a fool. And if sometimes I do foolish things it is merely because I am human.I never said YOU were foolish, and if you took it that way please excuse me. Yeah I just thought it was quite a bold statement to make, the one you did earlier... "Why should anyone take advice from people who are long-dead", or something of that sort. I was just saying how valuable you might not have seen that kind of thing to be. It's great being individual, just foolish for not heeding the lessons of our ancestors. You don't have to agree with them, in my opinion, just at least consider them. And then sometimes you find diamonds in the rough. Thass all.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:43 pm
Ooh, good question! Actually . . . I'd say C. S. Lewis for me. Most wouldn't classify him a "philosopher," but boy, is he amazing in his philosophical ideas and the nonfiction books he writes!
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:46 am
I love C. S. Lewis. He is awesome. I read all his Narnia books when I was in like the fifth grade. My pastor is always quoting him during his sermons. But, I must admit, I know nothing of his philosophical views.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 6:54 pm
TigerCatNails I love C. S. Lewis. He is awesome. I read all his Narnia books when I was in like the fifth grade. My pastor is always quoting him during his sermons. But, I must admit, I know nothing of his philosophical views. I agree! CS Lewis is a genius. The Narnia books are unlike anything else. Of course, I haven't read them in a long, long time. But very good!
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 3:49 am
TigerCatNails Personally, I don't follow a philosopher. I don't believe in looking towards anyone else in my way of thinking. I make up my own philosophy as I go along. I don't understand why others would wish to follow someone else's way of thinking. Especially if that person has long been dead. We are what history makes us, thats a fact. I make up my own mind but like everything else I'm influenced by the world around me. Some of these "long been dead" philosophers devoted there whole lives to a few aspecets of life, and they came up with some really good answers. How is it that you brush that off so easily?
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 12:22 pm
M.C TigerCatNails Personally, I don't follow a philosopher. I don't believe in looking towards anyone else in my way of thinking. I make up my own philosophy as I go along. I don't understand why others would wish to follow someone else's way of thinking. Especially if that person has long been dead. We are what history makes us, thats a fact. I make up my own mind but like everything else I'm influenced by the world around me. Some of these "long been dead" philosophers devoted there whole lives to a few aspecets of life, and they came up with some really good answers. How is it that you brush that off so easily? I've been trying to get that question out of her for like an hour. She's told me she doesn't believe anything anyone thought in the past is allowed to be agreed with if we are to be individuals...
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