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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:27 pm
I know this really has nothing to do with this guild, but in a way, it does. Just bare with me for a bit.
When I first joined gaia, I was directed to the Catterbox and the Welcome to Gaia forums by my friend who had helped me sign up. I instantly found those two places revolting and swore I would not enter them again. At this time, we still had the go-aia layout (if any of you were here long enough to see that, then you know how wonderous it was). So I decided to just look around gaia. After many painstaking years (20 minutes) of wandering around looking at everything, (the personals especially scared me), I stumbled upon Extended Discussion. It was an amazing place, full of wonderous people, discussing wonderous things at high levels of intelligence, and flaming those who could not hold their own in there.
As time went on, the guild system (taco database), was released. I was happy as could be. Private forums for whatever we wished! It was a godsend. I immediately joined several guilds for discussion, joined a couple that were threads (Gaia Gay Boys Bar and the Naughty Boys Guild), and help found another that was a private guild for a group of people and their friends (this guild eventually failed when we all went our seperate ways).
Due to the guild system being holding all that I would need, I slowly but surely quit visiting the forums. I would visit them still, but less and less often.
Well, it's been three months, and none of the guilds I'm in have had any new posts since I last checked them, so I said "What the hell, I'll visit ED." When I clicked on the ED icon, and then scrolled down, I nearly had a heart attack. I could not beleive the topics in there. It seemed as if the ED had become a place of trolling and stupidity.
After a few hours of shock (a minute or two), I decided to look at the other sub-forums. They were not much better. The politics consisted of nothing but repeat threads that were there the last time I had looked upon it, Science contained a bunch of sci-fi material, Morality and Religion was full of christian related content and a few other smut materials, and Psychology and Socialogy, well, lets not even go there.
This made me think. We're supposed to be reaching a point in time where our (the human race as a whole) level of thinking is the highest it's ever been. Where we are making the most advances and so much more. If that is the case, then why is it that everywhere I look, I see something stupid. I cannot watch a documentary on TV without being bombarded by comercials, I cannot read the news paper without seeing (no offense by this, it is not a racist comment) something about an illegal mexican who jumped the boarder and why, someone who killed their wife/family, or something else. I go online, and I find people who are not much better. I go into a room to talk with friends, and I get bombarded with faghags or fan girls saying "OMG! UR GAY? I LVOE YOU! HAV MY CHILD PLS?" (that is a direct quote from one).
Discuss:
arrow How is it that if we live in an age where we are meant to be advancing, why does it seem as if we are falling behind?
arrow What do you think is the cause of this?
arrow Why is it that when I search for a scientific paper about Advanced Quantum Physics, I get a load of garbage?
arrow Does Blue deserve a cookie?
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:08 pm
The reason for the seemling increase of stupid people is atuely caused by the increase of intelligence.
You see if you have an above average IQ and look at someone with an average they are gonna seem stupid therfor if the amount of people who has higher IQs it will seem like a decrease in intelligence in the overall population.
But I myself do not think of anyone stupid or smarter then another becuase even though a person doesnt know one thing doesnt mean he is stupid take this for instance, You see a mechanic he seems to barely be able to read and write but he can fix cars extremely well. well wouldnt that be considerd intelligent? I mean he may not have the reading and writing skills but he knows cars.
And if you think about most people have something they know alot about so I dont think anybody is smarter or stupider then anyone else.....well mabey the mentaly handy capped but thats differant.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:18 pm
The FLCL Guy The reason for the seemling increase of stupid people is atuely caused by the increase of intelligence. You see if you have an above average IQ and look at someone with an average they are gonna seem stupid therfor if the amount of people who has higher IQs it will seem like a decrease in intelligence in the overall population. But I myself do not think of anyone stupid or smarter then another becuase even though a person doesnt know one thing doesnt mean he is stupid take this for instance, You see a mechanic he seems to barely be able to read and write but he can fix cars extremely well. well wouldnt that be considerd intelligent? I mean he may not have the reading and writing skills but he knows cars. And if you think about most people have something they know alot about so I dont think anybody is smarter or stupider then anyone else.....well mabey the mentaly handy capped but thats differant. ~nods~ Although I agree with the statement that no one individual is smarter or stupider than another, (I look at things the same way) that rant was not aimed at individual people, but the human population as a whole.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:19 pm
Blue Jewel The FLCL Guy The reason for the seemling increase of stupid people is atuely caused by the increase of intelligence. You see if you have an above average IQ and look at someone with an average they are gonna seem stupid therfor if the amount of people who has higher IQs it will seem like a decrease in intelligence in the overall population. But I myself do not think of anyone stupid or smarter then another becuase even though a person doesnt know one thing doesnt mean he is stupid take this for instance, You see a mechanic he seems to barely be able to read and write but he can fix cars extremely well. well wouldnt that be considerd intelligent? I mean he may not have the reading and writing skills but he knows cars. And if you think about most people have something they know alot about so I dont think anybody is smarter or stupider then anyone else.....well mabey the mentaly handy capped but thats differant. ~nods~ Although I agree with the statement that no one individual is smarter or stupider than another, (I look at things the same way) that rant was not aimed at individual people, but the human population as a whole. Even so the population as a whole is smarter just the dumb ones stand out lol
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:22 pm
I high school I always had the mentality that I was very smart or everyone else was just very stupid.
Food for though; a majority of serial killers all have genius level IQs.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:53 pm
The Vampire Jonathan I high school I always had the mentality that I was very smart or everyone else was just very stupid. Food for though; a majority of serial killers all have genius level IQs. ..I'm suddenly afraid of MENSA.. gonk
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:09 pm
Pageantry The Vampire Jonathan I high school I always had the mentality that I was very smart or everyone else was just very stupid. Food for though; a majority of serial killers all have genius level IQs. ..I'm suddenly afraid of MENSA.. gonk You should be afraid of them anyway. But hey, those guys probably figured out, "hey, it's not best to have people around, and self perservation instincts be damned!" *shank*
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:04 pm
*gives Blue a cookie*
Here's a thought: All those years ago our minds weren't as progressed and experienced as they are now. So then ED seemed more intelligent than it is now because the average age of the gaian user is still the same and we're now the minority. So the discussions are less intelligent because those who WERE smarter than us are most likely no longer here. Add to that the massive influx of younger and younger people, and you don't have stupid, you have naive. Add to THAT the general stupidity of Bush's speaches and the depressing drone of the news and constant scandal digs of the media, and the younger generation doesn't have any kind of a good role model. Seriously, name a good role model for anyone ages 8-14 that's massively supported in the media today. I can't think of one...
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:58 pm
I think everybody else has said it all, but, about that Mensa comment, If you fear Mesna, FEAR ME! Lol. And yes, I do think Blue deserves a cookie. But, as a twist, it shall be a... burnt cookie! MWAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, btw, sorry about this being such a joke post... sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:58 am
Edward McShrimpy I think everybody else has said it all, but, about that Mensa comment, If you fear Mesna, FEAR ME! Lol. And yes, I do think Blue deserves a cookie. But, as a twist, it shall be a... burnt cookie! MWAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, btw, sorry about this being such a joke post... sweatdrop I met a couple MENSA dudes at a bookstore once. We had quite the conversation and invited me to one of their meetings. I never took them up on it, though.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:25 am
Free cookies for all! But Blue gets an extra-big one with icing and his name and everything. I think other people's intelligence is just a matter of perspective, and it depends on your background. For example, I get annoyed when people spell words wrong that in my opinion are quite easy. But these people who i got annoyed at really didn't like reading because they had other things to do with their time. I, on the other hand, love reading. Perhaps I have somehow increased my intelligence by reading like crazy?
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:51 am
Before I get to the questions... I demand proof. As useful as layman's observations can be, nothing in your essay (despite the fact I've seen the same trend) proves that there is any real decrease in intelligence among Gaia users.
What it points to more directly is the difference bewteen people who have good online communication skills and those who don't. Useful and productive online debate is a learned SKILL and one's ability or inability to do this may or may not have anything to do with a user's intelligence. Some people just do not understand how to present ideas in a fashion suitable for online debates. That doesn't make them stupider than those who DO.
arrow How is it that if we live in an age where we are meant to be advancing, why does it seem as if we are falling behind?
Because seeming isn't actuality. That's why we have science. That's why I demand proof and a statistical, psychological survey. Likewise, what I said above holds. The correlation between the quality of ED and intelligence may be a false correlation and even if it is not a false correlation, there are hundreds of other factors that are at work here. Nevermind that it is more than a little unrealistic to base one's assessment of human advancement off a forum populated in prime by children and teenagers.
arrow What do you think is the cause of this?
As I'm disputing the premise, it isn't fair for me to answer this question. I do not believe this "seeming" is "actuality" given the probable false correlation, other intervening variables, and the demographics of this site.
arrow Why is it that when I search for a scientific paper about Advanced Quantum Physics, I get a load of garbage?
Where are you searching, for one? If you're searching here, that's just laughable, no offense. You don't ask children and teenagers for scientific papers about Quantum Physics! Hell, you don't ask ANYONE online for good research information. You ask your college professor or your librarian! Isn't that basic research protocol? To rely in prime on text sources and NOT on the internet?
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:01 am
We seem to be falling backwards because the intelligent try to act stupid and "blend in," ending in a large concentration of geniuses who look like retards.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:06 am
KarAniyuki We seem to be falling backwards because the intelligent try to act stupid and "blend in," ending in a large concentration of geniuses who look like retards. Evidence, please?
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:39 pm
i say ppl are getting stupider because there is no challange....the war in iraq only few are in the war currently..we evolved originally because there was a real danger and threat....stones to make spears to kill big mammoths....fire to cook it , language to get information , crops to eat ....then so on and so forth....now there is little problems in the general public and people now remind me of Wierd Al's 'Dare to be Stupid' song..because they think its cool....in countries where brains are worshipped and really hard to get such as in china/japan....here in america we get free education wasted on people who forget it almost as soon as school ends and then only can use calculators to do basic math....i see a grime/filth/contagion sweeping the world and creating the dark times predicted to come for a long time now....this is all i have to say besides that is... im Mormon (member of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints{we practice monogamy not polygamy})..
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