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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:06 am

[edit] I had made some sarcastic remarks following the majority of these posts, but after having considered the matter, removed them. I was, at the time, unaware of the type of guild this was, and our of respect to some of our more intelligent pro-choice members, i've decided that i was out of line. Apologies to those i've offended.

i've decided not to tell you who made these, for one because i don't really want them flamed because of it, you catch more flies with honey after all, and second... well... i kinda forgot to get 'em. but here's some little nuggets of joy i've gleamed from the ripe ripe fields of the abortion debate topic. Feel free to share anything interesting you've come across. My comments are underneath each quote

Also, i'm new, and this is my first post. Greet me blaugh

All these posts are from pro 'choice' people, i use the term loosely because they claim to be pro choice, yet they don't support the idea of giving a child the choice if it even lives or dies. Brilliant no?

enough of that crap, quote time.

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You'll think I'm a b***h for this, but here's what I think.
If you're not an idiot, you'll get which side I'm on.

~Boo for pro-life,
It gets people killed.

Yay for pro-choice,
It only kills babies...~

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-The fetus is not physically capable of having an opinion, therefore it doesn't get one. We may as well ask a rock what it thinks

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So the perfect solution! Get a bullhorn and yell up someone's uterus, "HEY! IF YOU WANNA LIVE, COME OUT IN 15 MINUTES!" Then, wait... If it doesn't come out, it doesn't wanna live.

Le Chat du Noir, a pro choice member of this guild had this to say about her above comment, and i have included it as a disclamer at her request.

..Le Chat du Noir..

Yes, and the quote from me that was put in, the one about the bullhorn, I was trying to lighten up the debate in the ED by making a joke, not as an actual statement. I'd highly like it that either you take it out or put in that the writer was making a joke in response to your own sarcastic comment.

Well, i did remove a sarcastic comment (that the stupidity of the statment was evident and needed no comment from me) that i made after the quote, but i do feel the quote should remain as the attempt at humor still says quite a lot about the philosophy of the pro-choice movement.

Now we're getting to some of the nast ones. Tell me these didn't make you wince when you read them.

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I think abortion is an appropriate response to becoming pregnant

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[if you're so concerened about my fetus then] Then I'll take it out and give it to you to care for.

Oh s**t, it died.

Oh well.

This one is from some woman that has friends with banners all over gaia that support her decision to abort. Here's what she had to say when i questioned her about it. There was some... disagreement involved, not all of it healthy, but this statment was made none the less:

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Ah yes, pity me for I decided to KILL MY PWESHUS BABY ZOMG!

And yes, it may not be a scientific term, but it is what I called it and my choice to kill it. I hope it keeps you up at night, I really do, because since then I have had the most eased-sleep of my life knowing that I will not put myself through poverty just to bring a child into the world.

I don't need pity, because it was my choice to abort. I would need pity if that CHOICE was taken from me, because frankly, I would have done everything in my power to force miscarriage and if that didn't work? I would have no doubt overdosed. Why? Because if I could get my hands on it, I would have snuffed cocaine for months straight and up my already pack a day smoking habit to 2 packs along with half a bottle of vodka and crackers as food.

So ham it up, I aborted, I'm not ashamed of what I did, and I refuse, I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to be backed into a corner because of my choice as a woman to determine my OWN bodily integrity.

I'm gonna remind you that all of these quotes are direct and have not been fooled with in any way. This is what people have actually said on this website. October Cross (member that said this) Sent me a PM and had this to say about her statment:

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Disclaimer for the Post: Wrote:

Should anyone have questions surrounding the context of this post is free to pm me with their concerns. Before assuming you know my take on an issue based on a singular post, just ask! I am seriously not as vicious as this post makes me seem. In fact, I have apologized for unnecessary venom towards MiNdCaNdY and resolved things in a mature, adult manner. I ask that you all do the same.

Disclaimer for the Journal: Wrote:

This journal contains ALL aspects of my personal abortion procedure. I created this journal for the purpose of sharing a somewhat taboo experience with others. (Be them pro-life or pro-choice.)
Emotional aspects of this abortion should not be used as a blanket example for abortions. The personal views expressed in this journal do not directly represent the pro-choice guild's philosophy on abortion. I'd like to say this journal is as unbiased as I can make it, included the bad with the good.
Should anyone have any questions, comments, or concerns surrounding the contents of the journal can freely pm me. (I don't bite, I promise.) However, hate mail will not be tolerated. Feel free to use any materials in this journal as reference, however, do not take them as face-value fact, since it is a singular personal experience.

she also included the following link to her Abortion Journal

On to more. here's 2 of 'em dealing with the same topic.

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-For me, yes, as I find adoption a gross immorality personally

-To me, it most certainly is. I am personally morally oposed to putting up a child of mine for adoption or even reproducing at all.

Besides, talking about adoption is getting off-topic, as adoption is the solution to unwanted parenting and is therefore not a valid alternative to abortion

anti adoption. I gotta say i didn't even know such a stance existed before i found this place. Hell i've even run into some people that are anti abstinance! I'm not saying that they don't want to be abstinant, they take it one step further; that it's a bad philosophy that should not be encouraged! wish i grabbed a quote or two from that conversation. I'll remember next time.

This next one was a direct response to me talking about how i'm concered for the life within someone else, specifically reguarding the same girl's situation i mentioned earlier:

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Sucks to be the fetus, next time it will miscarry and save [earlier mentioned woman who has friends with banners everywhere] the trouble of having to put it out by force.

This next one is an illustration some pro-choicers use on a regular basis that makes no sense at all:

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me: and you know all of that when you make the decision to have sex, so that's your call.
Them: Just as you know that getting into a car means there is a possibility of a car accident. If you wish to ban abortion, then you should also be willing to refuse all medical assistance after a car accident, you knew the risks afterall.

Last one's a shocker. Unrelated to the earlier situation of the "girl with the banners all over"

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Were I to become pregnant and could not get an abortion, I would GLADLY kill the fetus once it came out of me for the simple fact that it ruined my body, I would kill it for revenge. Keep in mind, that the baby would be in a world of pain as opposed to me getting it aborted in the 1st trimester when it feels nothing.

Well that's it for me. Share your comments, quotes, and what not. See ya around.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:18 am

As much as those quotes disgust me, and as much as the sixth one down showed me how much "bodily integrity" abortion truly allows women to possess, bashing pro-choicers isn't something we do in this guild.

You can quote something and post it in the rant thread without telling us who said it, and without pinpointing certain people. But as much as those quotes make me vomit, I wouldn't be surprised if this thread got locked.

Some pro-choicers celebrate the pro-life bashing that they engage in. We're above that.

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:14 am

That's some quality pro-choice logic right there, but yeah, as much as I want to b***h and scream about some of those people I try my hardest not too.

But ******** K******* makes me lose all faith in humanity sometimes.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:00 am

well, i'm not encouraging flaming pro-choicers, or anything like that, but if you noticed i intentionally left out the names of those who said them. I definatly don't encourage bashing specific people, but bashing their faulty idiologies and philosophies isn't something i saw as a personal attack. If that's a problem i apologise, but i never had any malicious intent toward any specific person in mind, and the one name i did mention is rather vague. I could fix that as well if ti causes a problem, or a moderator could. It's just that some of this stuff is just amazing to me, and i thought i should definatly share it with the guild, as this is something i think pro-lifers should be made aware of.

And after all, this is our guild, i'm not doing this somewhere public like in the ED topic. I can't say i haven't misbehaved at times, but i do really try and keep a level head about this sort of thing. If it's a problem i'll respect whatever the mods decide to do, but i'd like to have the chance to fix the post before it becomes locked if it causes a problem. I think this is something we could benefit from seeing.

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:13 am

MiNdCaNdY

well, i'm not encouraging flaming pro-choicers, or anything like that, but if you noticed i intentionally left out the names of those who said them. I definatly don't encourage bashing specific people, but bashing their faulty idiologies and philosophies isn't something i saw as a personal attack. If that's a problem i apologise, but i never had any malicious intent toward any specific person in mind, and the one name i did mention is rather vague. I could fix that as well if ti causes a problem, or a moderator could. It's just that some of this stuff is just amazing to me, and i thought i should definatly share it with the guild, as this is something i think pro-lifers should be made aware of.

And after all, this is our guild, i'm not doing this somewhere public like in the ED topic. I can't say i haven't misbehaved at times, but i do really try and keep a level head about this sort of thing. If it's a problem i'll respect whatever the mods decide to do, but i'd like to have the chance to fix the post before it becomes locked if it causes a problem. I think this is something we could benefit from seeing.

In many cases the guild is in fact more public to pro-choicers than the ED, we've had cases of things being said in here quoted in the PCG and flamed.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:17 am

hmmm... are you sure that's wise? I mean, someone could just as easily take a question i had that i wanted to be discussed among people with the same worldview as me, and throw it in the ED as me doubting my beliefs. Is there a place for us that isn't so public?

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:38 am

Nice quotes. Most of them truely reflect the depth of hatred within the pro-choice movement. One thing I might like to comment on is October girl's quote, the sixth one down. It seems like she has a lot of self hate over the abortion. It far more seems like she's trying to justify the abortion to herself than to others, it truely is sad. She says not to pity her but through all her anger I can see she is really deeply scarred over it, even if she doesn't realize it herself. Her anger is most likely just a front to hide her true emotions over it.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:57 am

MiNdCaNdY

hmmm... are you sure that's wise? I mean, someone could just as easily take a question i had that i wanted to be discussed among people with the same worldview as me, and throw it in the ED as me doubting my beliefs. Is there a place for us that isn't so public?

Heh... Actually... It's even worse then that... The guild is public now. Anyone can post, member or not.

So they could even reply directly to you, if they so desired.

The reason we don't make the guild hidden is that we have nothing to hide. If they want to mock our posts, let them. It just shows who really has the higher moral ground.

But yeah. As Ebby said, we don't bash specific Pro-Choicers, or generalize that all Pro-Choicers are one way or another, whether they are named or not. Again, we try to take the moral high ground.

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:02 am

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hmmm... are you sure that's wise? I mean, someone could just as easily take a question i had that i wanted to be discussed among people with the same worldview as me, and throw it in the ED as me doubting my beliefs. Is there a place for us that isn't so public?

Heh... Actually... It's even worse then that... The guild is public now. Anyone can post, member or not.

So they could even reply directly to you, if they so desired.

The reason we don't make the guild hidden is that we have nothing to hide. If they want to mock our posts, let them. It just shows who really has the higher moral ground.

But yeah. As Ebby said, we don't bash specific Pro-Choicers, or generalize that all Pro-Choicers are one way or another, whether they are named or not. Again, we try to take the moral high ground.

well as i said, i tried not to make it a person bashing fest, which is why i left the names out, but we are pro life because we disagree with pro choice philosophy. I see this as support of that ideal, and nothing more. In hindsight, i don't think i would have started this topic knowing it was a public forum because it seems inflamatory, but so far it hasn't stirred up too much s**t. If it does, i trust the mods to do what's best for their guild.

This still dosen't address my issue of private discussion. I think it's good that we have a public guild like this, but i also think having a nice quiet place to discuss things amongst ourselves would be good as well.

And please, don't anybody tell me to use the PM system. That's hardly a good way to have a forum discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:17 am

*Shrug* You could make a new guild. Honestly, I've considered similar ideas; Having a guild just for the more militant Pro-Lifers, with no rules or whatever.

But I wouldn't make one, because I'm not one of them. whee

The thing, though, is that when you directly quote someone like that, even when you don't use their name, you are directly attacking them. Many of those would be fine paraphrased a little bit, since a lot of Pro-Choicers have used just about all of those. Like the car one; You could start a thread, or make a post in the Rant Thread, about the car argument. I've seen that so many times, and I agree, it makes no sense. But when you directly quote someone, it's like you are singling them out from everyone else who's ever used that argument.

Not sure if I'm making any sense. As you say, we can just wait for the mods to decide.

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:59 am

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Nice quotes. Most of them truely reflect the depth of hatred within the pro-choice movement. One thing I might like to comment on is October girl's quote, the sixth one down. It seems like she has a lot of self hate over the abortion. It far more seems like she's trying to justify the abortion to herself than to others, it truely is sad. She says not to pity her but through all her anger I can see she is really deeply scarred over it, even if she doesn't realize it herself. Her anger is most likely just a front to hide her true emotions over it.

Are to you talking about the girl who has a abortion jornal(sp)?

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:07 am

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Nice quotes. Most of them truely reflect the depth of hatred within the pro-choice movement. One thing I might like to comment on is October girl's quote, the sixth one down. It seems like she has a lot of self hate over the abortion. It far more seems like she's trying to justify the abortion to herself than to others, it truely is sad. She says not to pity her but through all her anger I can see she is really deeply scarred over it, even if she doesn't realize it herself. Her anger is most likely just a front to hide her true emotions over it.

Are to you talking about the girl who has a abortion jornal(sp)?

I don't know, and if you do, please don't mention her name. In fact, i think i'm going to remove the reference to part of her name from my original post. It's almost too obvious since she's a very active member.

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:12 am

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*Shrug* You could make a new guild. Honestly, I've considered similar ideas; Having a guild just for the more militant Pro-Lifers, with no rules or whatever.

But I wouldn't make one, because I'm not one of them. whee

The thing, though, is that when you directly quote someone like that, even when you don't use their name, you are directly attacking them. Many of those would be fine paraphrased a little bit, since a lot of Pro-Choicers have used just about all of those. Like the car one; You could start a thread, or make a post in the Rant Thread, about the car argument. I've seen that so many times, and I agree, it makes no sense. But when you directly quote someone, it's like you are singling them out from everyone else who's ever used that argument.

Not sure if I'm making any sense. As you say, we can just wait for the mods to decide.

I hardly consider myself a militant pro-lifer. I just think it does a good job of exposing the holes in some of their arguments, which is why i posted the quotes. *Waits for mods*

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:41 pm

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I don't need pity, because it was my choice to abort. I would need pity if that CHOICE was taken from me, because frankly, I would have done everything in my power to force miscarriage and if that didn't work? I would have no doubt overdosed. Why? Because if I could get my hands on it, I would have snuffed cocaine for months straight and up my already pack a day smoking habit to 2 packs along with half a bottle of vodka and crackers as food.

eek WTF, dude, she sounds like she has a phobia of pregnancy or something...that's not normal, that sounds like someone who would suicide bomb a maternity ward or something. I refuse to believe that women who would risk their lives to end a pregnancy are sane.

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:48 pm

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Nice quotes. Most of them truely reflect the depth of hatred within the pro-choice movement. One thing I might like to comment on is October girl's quote, the sixth one down. It seems like she has a lot of self hate over the abortion. It far more seems like she's trying to justify the abortion to herself than to others, it truely is sad. She says not to pity her but through all her anger I can see she is really deeply scarred over it, even if she doesn't realize it herself. Her anger is most likely just a front to hide her true emotions over it.

Are to you talking about the girl who has a abortion jornal(sp)?

I have no idea. I was just making my statement based upon the quote that was provided. I have no idea who she is or if she has a journal.

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