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 Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:58 pm
I just realized from a source of mine through contacts, that rape only makes up 1% of the abortions...
Curious, is that 1% really a good and valid argument to keep abortion in demand because of that 1%?
I find it illogical.
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 11:53 pm
FreeArsenal I just realized from a source of mine through contacts, that rape only makes up 1% of the abortions... Curious, is that 1% really a good and valid argument to keep abortion in demand because of that 1%? I find it illogical. For me the rape arguement doesn't work, because either it's a human being with a right to life, or it's not. HOW it came to be should not determine whether it gets to live or not. Does that make sense? I guess, in other words, it's not the preborn's fault the mother was raped, so why does the preborn have to die? But when I use that arguement, it always sounds harsh.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:15 am
Who cares if you sound Harsh! Your damned Right! Killing the child seems more Harsh to me. I have been molested, I know what that is like... but had the guy raped me and that resulted in a child I would still have it. Even if I put it up for adoption, I wouldn't ruin my child's chance of living because some guy forced his intentions on me!
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:22 am
It's not harsh, anyway. It's logical.
A real doctor needs to figure out the best way to save as many lives as possible. While rape is pregnancy forced upon a girl, abortion is just as bad as childbirth, emotionally. Worse usually. Psychologically she'd be better off carrying the child to term, physically she'd be at less risk for things to go wrong if she carries to term, but she'll be pressured from everyone around her to have an abortion most likely, and THAT will give her lots of trouble in years to come.
The thing I don't like about the term "pro-choice" is that much of the time, it's not the woman making the choice, it's the people in her life making it for her.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:28 am
Yeah! I have this friend and her mother tried to get her to have an abortion because she didn't like her boyfriend... stare I don't like him either but hey... In the end her baby died... not from abortion but from her being ill and the baby dying inside her. Still I have read so many stories on women who were forced to have one. They don't teach in school what Abortion does to a womans body either.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:43 am
There was an article on women who are fired for not having abortions. I think that's sick and wrong. http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=49642It's in there I think, but it just....gah. Lol, I know you're knew, so I'll just say right here that I argue for the woman's rights as much as the rights of the fetus. I believe abortion is a tool to keep objectifying and abusing women, among other things, so....I respond very badly to that sort of thing. Any human being mistreated I respond badly to, actually.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:14 pm
(newbie here sweatdrop ) Even if they thought abortion was thr right thing to do if they were raped. Every Woman/Girl would be showing up in Clinics claiming they were consenualy(sp?) raped.. I value life, I also belive everything happens for a reason.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:32 pm
I'm always against abortion, even in a rape case now... I just find that the pro-choice arguments that rape is a factor should be re-thought.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:17 pm
Brutally killing an innocent, living, breathing human being is way more harsh! Think about it, a child, who didnt even get a chance to live outside of a little womb, no chance to live the miracle that is human life, is being brutally and viciously killed! It doesnt matter how it was concieved, the innocent little baby is being killed. Good can come from evil, and that good is a baby, I mean, who doesnt want to have a baby? Besides, how will a woman be able to live knowing that she had killed a human being?
Much more pain will come from aborting it. Ughhh, I HATE how abortion industrys are tricking women into killing their children. Also, the woman can put it up for adoption if she cant raise it, where it will be put into a loving, caring family. And yes, everything happens for a reason, no matter how bad it may be, so those women should just remind themselves that it happened for a reason when something bad happens to them.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:13 pm
While I agree morally that rape (non-consentual) is not a viable excuse for an abortion, I don't believe that it will ever be illegal. This is simply because in order for abortion to be illegal the mother must be shown to have the responsibility to keep the child alive.
This would be most likely (assuming abortion was made illegal again) be because it's her actions (as well as the males') that caused the life to come to be, and caused the need for it to rely on her body.
In cases of rape this isn't the case as it isn't the woman's fault and so therefore most likely will never be illegal.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 9:10 pm
toxic_lollipop While I agree morally that rape (non-consentual) is not a viable excuse for an abortion, I don't believe that it will ever be illegal. This is simply because in order for abortion to be illegal the mother must be shown to have the responsibility to keep the child alive.
Yep, because if she has sex that means she has enough responsibility to keep a child alive. biggrin
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 8:04 am
foomonster toxic_lollipop While I agree morally that rape (non-consentual) is not a viable excuse for an abortion, I don't believe that it will ever be illegal. This is simply because in order for abortion to be illegal the mother must be shown to have the responsibility to keep the child alive.
Yep, because if she has sex that means she has enough responsibility to keep a child alive. biggrin
I never once called her a responsible person, I said she was responsible for the life residing within her. Well both she and a partner however there's nothing even the law can do about that.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:44 pm
The only reason that abortion was made legal in the first place was to help rape victims.
...Although, I'll admit, it takes a pretty sick mind to think that slaughtering babies will solve all trauma. neutral
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:02 pm
Ishrie The only reason that abortion was made legal in the first place was to help rape victims. ...Although, I'll admit, it takes a pretty sick mind to think that slaughtering babies will solve all trauma. neutral What country was that?
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 6:38 pm
I think China started abortions.. not sure though.
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