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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:48 pm
Fight here.Due to the fact that Clash has not been here of late and under the suggestion of Moo I am bringing my complaints against the character Akira into the light of public discusion. Some of you will know that I have commented in the past over some of the moves taken and have had to go to Clash over a few issues so I'm sorry that the reptition must happen again. Now my concerns are in the most recent post by Akira which are contrary to actions which I stated in my previous post. This action being that has our swords would clash in a perry by mine I would have launched a strike with Quin's right leg to coinside with the blow against the blade. In other words I used exacting language to say that has the block was made with the swords Quin's foot would be kicking Akira in the head. Simple no? But then Akira in his return posts says that he drops his blade when it finds its way blocked by mine and then jumps back at the same time; why would he do that unless he was trying to work his way out of deserved damage? My contention here is that between the swords hitting one another there is no time for Akira to fully dodge my kick for even if he dropped his blade and jumped back at the same moment Quin's foot would still have impacted upon his chin. My next contetion is on the subject of two wounds. Akira earlier on was slashed across the throat and as Clash agreed with me earlier on such a wound would be lethal no matter what the circumstances. Akira made no refrence to it. In further disregard he made no refrence to the kidney shot Quin performed upon him in an earlier post. Akira's failure to state anything of the damages has left me a little miffed over his willingness to except damage. This point is further seen when one takes a look at the action he performs. Now earlier on in the fight Akira had charged Quin and rolled, striking his shoulder against the stone floor. Okay, I can except that; but in his latest post after jumping back he thinks he can land on his tail bone and be okay as long as his body doesn't tense up. Note here that at no point has Akira given any indication beyond the negation of magic to be anything more then a normal human. Landing on your tail bone is painful and I highly doubt Akira has a large enough a** to cushion his fall. That's not such a concern and I do have one last minor complaint against Akira in that with the same move I had Quin conjure some magical energy which Akira has stated in the past both IC and OOC that his negation field leaches off of the energy of others. Thus from the description I gave of the action I directly boosted magical energy into his system, sort of like flooding too much energy through a fuse. In his responce he seems to ignore the nature of his own ability or change how it works. The grenades, those I don't have a problem with; but I do have a problem with Akira never taking any damages, even those Clash has awarded me.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:53 pm
Since you so asked nicely, I'll delete my posts. I'd rather not start some huge protest against me or anything for pissing off Impact. Good luck with your little argument.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:22 am
Nihilistic_Impact Fight here.Due to the fact that Clash has not been here of late and under the suggestion of Moo I am bringing my complaints against the character Akira into the light of public discusion. Some of you will know that I have commented in the past over some of the moves taken and have had to go to Clash over a few issues so I'm sorry that the reptition must happen again. Now my concerns are in the most recent post by Akira which are contrary to actions which I stated in my previous post. This action being that has our swords would clash in a perry by mine I would have launched a strike with Quin's right leg to coinside with the blow against the blade. In other words I used exacting language to say that has the block was made with the swords Quin's foot would be kicking Akira in the head. Simple no? But then Akira in his return posts says that he drops his blade when it finds its way blocked by mine and then jumps back at the same time; why would he do that unless he was trying to work his way out of deserved damage? My contention here is that between the swords hitting one another there is no time for Akira to fully dodge my kick for even if he dropped his blade and jumped back at the same moment Quin's foot would still have impacted upon his chin. My next contetion is on the subject of two wounds. Akira earlier on was slashed across the throat and as Clash agreed with me earlier on such a wound would be lethal no matter what the circumstances. Akira made no refrence to it. In further disregard he made no refrence to the kidney shot Quin performed upon him in an earlier post. Akira's failure to state anything of the damages has left me a little miffed over his willingness to except damage. This point is further seen when one takes a look at the action he performs. Now earlier on in the fight Akira had charged Quin and rolled, striking his shoulder against the stone floor. Okay, I can except that; but in his latest post after jumping back he thinks he can land on his tail bone and be okay as long as his body doesn't tense up. Note here that at no point has Akira given any indication beyond the negation of magic to be anything more then a normal human. Landing on your tail bone is painful and I highly doubt Akira has a large enough a** to cushion his fall. That's not such a concern and I do have one last minor complaint against Akira in that with the same move I had Quin conjure some magical energy which Akira has stated in the past both IC and OOC that his negation field leaches off of the energy of others. Thus from the description I gave of the action I directly boosted magical energy into his system, sort of like flooding too much energy through a fuse. In his responce he seems to ignore the nature of his own ability or change how it works. The grenades, those I don't have a problem with; but I do have a problem with Akira never taking any damages, even those Clash has awarded me. Alright so the big deal here is that I haven't ever directly stated that I am taking damage. I am sorry for that I have been slightly rushed as of late when I have an opportunity to post, this being because I've been on the road for a couple of weeks. That being said let me go over a few things. Now as for the neck being a fatal injury, though I did not state that I know this I do know this. Akira never uses his grenades and/or guns unless he is in a dire situation. They are his uber powers if you will. So basically he is uping the anti in the fight because he does not have long to live. Now since it is only a small slash it will take a little bit, but in the fairness of the fight I'm guessing in about 8 posts from him he'll go unconscious, at which point it's do or die time before he bleeds out. As for the inability for him to dodge the kick that was sent his way. It is completely possible for him to evade the attack. If he jumps backwards, like the opposite direction of the blow at the same time that it happens than he will be able to evade it though the blow comes close. I'm sorry but I've taken a jab to the kidney's and a sword across the neck, I'm not your punching bag and I'm not going to take every single attack that you aim my way. Regardless of him launching himself back on his tailbone, yeah it will hurt, but it won't be broken. You're assuming that a human will break under the slightest bit of pressure or force. I practice Judo and during practice we have to do similar backwards leap rolls as I did here, now it's on a mat but I've done it on cement. Yeah it hurts but you just bruise a little bit and you're fine. As for the negation of energy. Now I realize that you tried to feed your energy into me, however you missed something from my previous posts. Akira was no longer feeding off of your energy, he was putting his own energy into the negation barrier. Thus when you tried to channel your energy into the shield instead of the shield having to steal it to retain equal power it already was maintaining equal if not greater power because of the energy wich Akira put into it, thus the shield did not need to absorb the energy to negate its effect. All in all I really don't see any kind of problem.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:40 am
Well it's good to have a responce. Now I'll just get Moo to unlock the fight and we can continue on our way.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:29 am
Ok so I light off C-4 behind you Quin, and you avoided being incinerated by the blast. However, then you have to deal with the concussive blast which comes off of the explosion. Now I'm not a physics major, but from what I know about force and the like when hit by the blast of that force you are tossed into the air uncontrollably, due to the fact that your character's mass and matter are insignificant when it's them vs. incredibly powerful C-4 blast. Physics dictate that you should be lifted up and tossed upwards through the air while at the same time your character would be forced into a prone position, not flying towards me with your feet dragging the ground.
Not only this, but then you go on to say that mid flight your character suddenly falls out of the sky on top of my character. Or that basically you can change your trajectory mid explosive flight. This of course would also be impossible, because unless you have wings, once you are tossed through the air by that blast it's almost impossible for you to change trajectory, due to the fact that there is nothing for your body to physically push off of that would change the direction of the blast.
In short I do not see how your character could have logically done what he did in your last post barring the use of magic, which we both have already agreed would be negated by Akira's magic negation barrier when you said that magic seemed to be useless.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:01 pm
The stim of your problems stems from the fact that you assume Quin will be picked up and thrown into the air. That is where your entire arguement hinges at.
What is actually the case is that any explosions, saved shaped charges, are an omin directional blast. This means that there is a realtively equal force being pressed out in all directions.
Now Quin is charging you, this means that he already has a foward momentum towards you. Then the explosion goes off behind him, the conccusion blast does catch him; but it does not throw him like you are assuming it does.
Yes, he is hurled foward, but due to his position he lost his footing, hence the feet dragging.
It's those feet touching the ground that allow Quin to do what he did. From there it's a matter of him trying to get his feet flat on the ground. You just provide a reasonable target, but in the process he doesn't land flat on his feet. Instead he trips.
This causes an angular force which coupled with the conccusion blast brings him to start going head foward into a dive. Which is why his hands fly infront of him to catch himself.
Really now, I have the right to define how my character is "lifted" by the explosion and act accordingly as long as it isn't so absurd as my character standing there and "absorbing" said energy.
Also, I have never agreed with your cowards excuse to deal with magic. Though I see you are blind as always, still saying my character is wearing armour. Then there is you not even remebering what hand you held your gun.
On another note, you should really give more infomation upon how much C4 you are using. Take for instance that when the military or a demolition company uses C4 they normally use 8–10 pounds of C4 to demolish eight-inch-square steel beams, even though this is more explosive than is required. They do this to make sure that they have accomplished the job successfully.
Weight is a critical factor and then there is size as well. You've been very poor at defining that.
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:34 pm
Yes the blast is going to be omni-directional, however the fact still remains that regardless of whether you have forward motion or not, once you are hit by the shockwave of the blast it will physically lift you up and toss you. Let me give you an example. Me and my friends made a pipe bomb a couple of years ago, which has no-where near the force which the C-4 has, now my friend lit the pipe bomb because he drew the short straw. xd He took off running, like dead sprint, made it about 10 ft away and then the explosive went off. When it did go off though he was charging away from the explosive, like Quin, he was lifted up and tossed forward about ten feet through the air and landed flat on his face. Regardless of what motion your character was going through at the point in time when the blast catches said person, said person will be treated like a rag doll when the blast hits. Thus I still do not see how your character would drag his feet along the ground as if he tripped, it's basically not physically possible. As for the magic negation, you did agree with it when I said that the barrier had negated, or absorbed, the magical force which you attempted to toss the C-4 away with and you let that slid by. Thus by you not trying to argue that point you concede the power. As to it being cowardly, it is just as much a justifiable power as is the ability to manipulate a storm. That's the point of fighting, you run up against new scenarios and adapt to them to win. If you can not adapt you lose, I could care less if you think the negation is cowardly, it's my character's power and is just as legitimate as any other power out there. Now as for the weight of the C-4, I am indeed sorry that I failed to mention the weight of the explosives. But then again if you want to be that critical then you should be mentioning the calibur of the bullets which your character is firing off in each and every post. Just because I failed to bring up a minor detail such as weight is no reason to thus negate the post. The point of the matter is that it is a large explosive, going off behind you, and you failed to provide the appropriate reaction with said explosive. You can't try to weasle out of this by placing the blaim on me by saying I never said how heavy the C-4 is. ((By the way if you're going to quote Wikipedia... Nihilistic_Impact On another note, you should really give more infomation upon how much C4 you are using. Take for instance that when the military or a demolition company uses C4 they normally use 8–10 pounds of C4 to demolish eight-inch-square steel beams, even though this is more explosive than is required. They do this to make sure that they have accomplished the job successfully. Wikipedia.org When the military or a demolition company uses C-4 they normally use 8–10 pounds of C-4 to demolish eight-inch-square steel beams, even though this is more explosive than is required. They do this to make sure that they have accomplished the job successfully. Look a paragraph from the bottom. ...then you should at least cite the source properly. What you did was plagarism. 3nodding )) Finally, as for mentioning that your character is still in armour and switching up the hands that held the gun. These are minor typos because I forgot to proofread back through my posts. If you want to make a big deal out of them I can re-edit my posts for you. However, this is beyond the point, you are merely being nit-picking by bringing said mistakes up. Everyone makes mistakes, you don't win or lose a match for a minor lapse in description because that's really all that the problems are: Problems with description. Even though I might have said the wrong hand with the gun the point still gets across of what my character did and leeway can be given for a minor mistake.
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:01 pm
Forgetting what hand your gun is in is no small mistake. Especially when holding a detonator in the other hand. Typos maybe, but a mistake none the less which is not nit-picking. You have the keep your facts straight or the entire thing falls apart.
I see you are still failing to see what I did. The blast does throw Quin, I never argued that he fell flat there. He was hurled, upon the course which he was going as the force of the explosion also forces him that way. But then, you provide a perfect object for him to catch himself on, well trip really. There is also a slight problem with your little story, how a blast catches someone is important. Whether they be touching the ground or at the point when both feet are airborn.
So I copied a sentence from wiki, they copied it from else where you'll notice if you look closely. It still doesn't refute the fact that it brings up.
And weight of the C4 plays a much larger role then the bore of my guns; for one, it's a flintlock they don't really have any measurable bores unless you're in the big guns, in which case its usually measured in the pound of projectile they fire. For two, if it's different then what one would originally assume it to be I describe its effects.
The difference being that C4 weighs more then my bullets, and you've been throwing around a lot of explosives. Granted I can understand you carrying it all, but that comes at a cost.
But then Akira is bleeding from the throat, and has been for a while. Four more posts tell you pass out and basicly die is it? That wound would slow his movements down I would think, or at least give him pause to consider the worth of his own life.
As for the power, anyone that hides behind a screen to negate another's ability in fullness is a coward. I apply the same criteria to anyone else. But then I'd expect you'd be called a coward quite often since you so heavily use firearms. I also didn't push the issue because we are holding up the round and I didn't want to dead lock it into a b***h fight.
I wanted to end this as quickly as possible. Now except your beating.
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