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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:09 am
When you have solos, do you usually think them over and practice the same thing over again until your next performance, or do you make up your solos on the spot? Myself, I think them up right as I'm playing them (that's why they're called improvised solos).
Opinions?
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:19 am
Improvised on the spot. Most of the gigs I have, we get up on stage and call standards without any warning, so I have to be able to do that.
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:07 am
I've memorized some ideas so I can call them back whenever I need to, but I've never tried to memorize a whole solo to play at a performance.
The only solos I memorized were just to practice.
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:42 pm
Its good to have some ideas to fall back on but its not TRULEY jazzity jazz if your not improving... unless its like... sophisticated lady... and it HAS to be as written.. i hate as written...
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:26 am
Hey, I'm no "repeater pencil!'
Well, if it's something like a chromatic-ish run to get you through turnbacks or whatever, then they're really useful.
Most of the time, the things I memorize just fall into place here and there. Other times they might go from major to minor, maybe even to a dominant quality.
Idk, it's how people have been doing it for generations. That's why you hear so many different ideas quoted in various solos.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:33 am
But improvising when you're sitting is really hard, right? You're allready nervous and suddenly your supposed to give everything you've work on before the concert over to it self and just play... It's rather scary i think.
Eitherway, my teacher clames that everything we play during improes are stuff we've heard before, we just don't realize it...
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:21 am
I suppose that makes sense, but it might be something you've heard in your head, right?
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:41 pm
I'm not sure. I think his point of view is that all has been played before, by someone else. It may be, I don't know, to much of a dogmatic way to put it, but when you think about it it isn't that crazy. At this point in our history we've explored quite a good deal of what music can be.
As an addition I can add that my teacher is very occupied by our subconscious thoughts, he actually live his life out from interpreting his dreams, so this idea is closley connected to him as a person. A thouch of Freud maybe?
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:48 pm
Very. But that's a fatalistic view of art that I just can't agree with.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:48 pm
Hm. I don't always agree with him either, he can be quite, fatalistic is actually a good description. In this matter I don't feel I've tried improvising enough to say this or the other. But it is an interesting idea, to connect the music to well-known theories about our subconsciousness
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:16 am
Well, I believe it was Ella Fitzgerald who once said "Every solo I've sang, I've heard been played by a horn before"... or something like that sweatdrop . But yeah using licks aren't preconceived, but just playing what you feel in the solo.
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:09 am
You can hear the horn player influence in Ella's solos for sure.
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:59 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:27 am
MagicKnightKenshin When you have solos, do you usually think them over and practice the same thing over again until your next performance, or do you make up your solos on the spot? Myself, I think them up right as I'm playing them (that's why they're called improvised solos). Opinions? Improv! All the way Improv! Because that way you can express what your feeling that moment. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:25 am
I always do improvised solos, but I agree with Ash. You have some ideas on the backburner if you're ever stuck.
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