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 Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:26 pm
All right.
Interval training, np. That's coming along fine.
Now, my chord training. sweatdrop
The first step was major and minor triads. It seemed so easy, but there are a few keys that I just can't get. Worse part is I'm not making any progress with them.
I think I read something about this. If I understood the article, I'm confusing the chord's actual pitches with it's "chroma." I think that's what it's called.
: / Does anyone have any advice?
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:00 pm
Chord recognition is tough, there's no question. The best way I found to work on it is just to sit down at a piano and play through them yourself. You can see and feel what you're playing, connecting more senses to the memory of the chord's sound. Beyond that, just practice, practice, practice. What's really a b***h is when you get to full chord dictation. It was the bane of the whole of my Theory class this past semester.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:51 pm
I just started theory lessons today. My teacher was impressed that my written theory was so strong, so he said we'll just work on ear training.
Still up at about 90% on the interval trainer.
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:59 am
Indeed. If you're good at intervals, that probably means you have relative pitch, right? So, one way of distinguishing chords is listening to the intervals between the pitches, ex. minor third between the bottom and middle note means it's a minor chord! surprised This may take a bit longer, tho. Another thing I can say is also listen to chords in their inversions. A major chord in first inversion has a minor third between the bottom and middle note. surprised And, yeah, just practise. What could also help is play the chords broken and solid.
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:53 pm
How do you practice ear training? I'm going to start working on that (I really should), do you have someone play two notes and you say the interval? That type of thing?
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:10 pm
Interval training isn't hard. It gets better when you start recognizing chord inversions for 7th chords. In Jazz, when you start adding the 2nd note of the scale and removing the root. Gah, it hurts my brain. I'm only a drummer crying
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:36 pm
Yeah, the intervals weren't hard to learn. I just have some trouble sorting out the different notes in the chords. I'm still having a little trouble sorting out the major or minor thirds/ sevenths.
Oh, and my teacher's going to try to teach me to sing. ^ ^; this will be interesting. One of my sax teacher's tried that and it didn't go so well.
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:35 pm
I've never had a hard time with chords..So I really can't help.
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:59 pm
But you play piano, right? : / You're more used to hearing chords in general than I.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:30 pm
First just get yourself a guitar or piano (preferably piano) and then play major chords in all keys over and over until you can recognize them, then play minor chords in all keys. Progress to diminished, augmented, 7ths, and then extensions (9ths, 11ths, 13ths). It helps if you have songs that use these chords and u can figure them out. Its just all practice over and over
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:53 pm
*Update*
I was just doing some pitch matching exercises on our piano when I noticed something interesting. When I was listening closely to get as close to the note as I could, I noticed that something was kind of getting in the way. It wasn't dissonant, but it was definitely not the note I was listening for.
I think I was getting overtones off of the little brass clock thing we keep on the piano.
C# was making the little bell things ring. When I look closely, I can just barely see it. D# was making some other part vibrate. I don't which part of the clock was ringing on D#.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:45 am
Hehe, I've been experiencing the same kind of thing with my piano at home. My silly mom always confuses my poor piano with a nice piece of furniture and put pictures in frames, candelholders and other stuff on top of it. My #f is having the hardest time trying to cope with the pressure, but it always ends up with an additional sound from the picture of my nephew... I think it has something to do with the soundwaves, something about the objects own frequency.
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:52 am
kila_chan I've never had a hard time with chords..So I really can't help. Sorry, Ash. I'm with Kila. Because of my experience with bands and arranging, I just know chords off the bat. I don't know any tips to help you to define chords.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:38 pm
It's getting better.
Last night I couldn't sleep, so I pulled my flute out and started playing something shapeless. Eventually it turned into Deck the Halls, which I taught myself in all twelve keys...
My theory teacher is having me work on playing things by ear, and then I do stuff like my sax teacher wanted me to do, which is in all twelve keys.
I'm sorry, I didn't sleep much. ^ ^;
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:49 pm
*Update*
I'm in the second half of summer and I'm making good progress. The major minor issue isn't a problem anymore. I gave it another try tonight and I was amazed at how obvious the thirds were to me. I can finally hear that major or minor third consistently.
Consistently!
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