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 Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:40 pm
Kaira Tsukiyama Ten year olds getting blowjobs.
Thirteen year olds losing their virginity.
FIVE year olds getting their first kiss.
WHAT THE HECK?!
Something is seriously wrong with today's society. I blame it on the media and our government's lack of involvment with the people. The media portrays things in such a scandalous way that kids get dragged right into the middle of it!
Here's another thing I hate. Supposedly after about five months of dating, sex is a definate yes. Uhh...since when? What happened to the days when you waited until marriage for s**t like that? Back then, STD's were a lot less common and people weren't having to pay all this child support s**t for kids they don't even want.
Okay, so some of you are going "well we're matuuuuuure enough to handle sex! some of us can take it!"
No you're not.
If you are under the age of twenty-three, dont even consider junk like that. If you aren't married, why do it? If you do something like that before marriage, the chances of you getting stuck with a kid or a nasty STD, neither of which you want, not to mention you just lost your virginity to someone you arent going to spend the rest of your life with.
Yet again, stupid on your part.
However, I will admit that there are some rare occassions where people know exactly what they are doing and are stable enough to have sex without the commitment of marriage.
But I sure as hell know it doesn't come to you when you're in your teens.
Discuss:
1. why our society has become so ignorant and naive.
2. reasons and arguments on why all the stuff said above is OK
3. ever had an experience like the ones above?
4. why im right 3nodding
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:58 pm
While I don't believe in sex before marriage myself, I'm not going to call someone an idiot for having sex if they are in a committed, responsible relationship.
I had my "first kiss" when I was about 7. It was just one of those silly little crushes little kids get on each other. I don't really count it, because we were so young.
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:23 pm
I'm 19 and sexually active. I've also been dating my boyfriend since I was 14, and we're planning on getting married after I graduate from college and get my teaching liscense. We're monagamous, and we're planning on spending the rest of our lives together... but, it's 4 years before we're going to get married, and we wanted that dimension to our relationship.
Not all sex before marriage is wrong. I think... people still in high school, it's not a good idea, typically, but... if you've graduated, and you WANT to loose your virginity to someone you're not gonna spend the rest of your life with, or you're not getting married for a while, but want that dimension... then, that's your choice, and I'm certainly not going to look down on you for it. I won't even look down on high schoolers for it, even though I believe they're making a mistake.
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:34 pm
The poster needs to clarify their post a bit more. Perhaps "teens" should be changed to "young teens."
And why 23?
I've been sexually active since I was 17. I've been reading about sex, pregnancy and birth control since I was about 13 (I'm almost 20 now). I did my research before I ever started having sex, and was on the Pill for almost 2 months when I lost my virginity to my ex. I don't regret that I lost it to him, or that I lost it before marriage - just that we're not friends anymore.
My boyfriend and I are sexually active, and I have 0 regrets. We are not talking about getting engaged or married, but we'll be living together in a couple of months. In the fall, he goes to university and I'll be working to pay our rent.
I know I'm smart about sex, and I know my boyfriend is too. I also know we're both very mature, very responsible people. We've had "the talk", and we have a plan for something like an unplanned pregnancy. We've had the talk about abortion and adoption, and we both know each other's position on the subject.
I generally tend to yell at the dumb teenagers who make stupid mistakes - not educating themselves beforehand, not getting tested if their partner isn't a virgin, etc. Stuff like that. Teenagers who are trying to grow up too fast or who are trying to act older are the ones who often make mistakes, and I think they're the ones that give premarital sex a bad name. Sex isn't for children.
I have issues with people like these, but I do my best to keep my opinions to myself.
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:13 pm
Well s**t, I had both of my kids before I turned 24 and will have been married for six years in August...but oh, having kids young, sex before marriage, and being married young all mean you're going to ruin your life.
Someone better tell that to my parents who had me when they were 17 and 18 (they graduated/got married in 81 I was born in 82, mom was pregnant with me when they got married).
I always knew I would probably not be a virgin when I got married, possibly not even having lost it to the guy I was going to marry. I didn't intend to slut it out around town to anyone who asked, but if I was in a committed relationship with someone who I felt I loved, we could take it to the next step. And if we decided we didn't love eachother later on... who the ******** cares. IT'S JUST SEX.
I'm tired, personally of living in a world of hypersensitive prudes who so glorify and sanctify sex and virginity that they make children/teens/adults scared and ignorant of their bodies and choices.
There are perfectly safe ways to experience sex. SURE, YES there is ALWAYS a chance you can get pregnant. BUT if you are serious and want to have sex, using a condom and birth control pill properly the chances are damn near astronomical.
While children younger than the age I'd consider capeable of making the decision (before a certain age you haven't even properly developed the part of your brain that deals with emotions and calculation of risk, young teens are risky because they don't understand risk), teens 17 and older have every right to make an informed decision to have sex or not.
Having sex/kids/getting married for a STUPID reason...is well, stupid. Making an informed decision is not.
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:54 pm
When my grandmother married my grandfather, she was 16. By the time she was 22, she had four children.
I'm sorry, but I really don't see the world today being so much different from the world of yesterday. If anything, statistics show us that fewer teens are getting pregnant now than they were 50+ years ago thanks to the mass availability of contraceptives.
Anyone who starts their argument with nostalgia about how much the world has changed automatically forfeits their discussion, imo. Society has not changed that much. We're still the same humans. The only difference is that we actually talk about sex now, so we know when teens are having sex.
As for "save sex for marriage," I hate that point. If that works for you, fine. But I think that it is both unreasonable and idiotic to expect it of everyone else. Gone are the days of arranged marriages. When I marry someone, I want to KNOW that I am compatible with that person. Compatibility has more than one dimension, and sex is one of them.
I'm with Thomas More in the belief that you should, at the very least, see your future spouse naked before marrying them. No third n****e surprises on my wedding night, thank you very much. The day is stressful enough without it.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:13 pm
There has always been STDs, there has always been illegitment children, there has always been younger teens exploring sex and sexuality.
The real change? We have more ways of communicating things such as this accross the country. Through TV, phones, newspapers and internet we are able to learn what is going on in the world around us a lot easier.
Another Change? Medical know how! Sure, it may seem that STDs are a new thing of the 20th and 21st century, but they are not! They've always been around without names. We just found ways to identify STDs, instead of sitting back and watching people die of "unknown" sicknesses.
If you honestly believe that all of this is new, you need a serious reality check. Young teens were having sex in Roman civilization ALL OF THE TIME. People have been having children out side of the marriage way before the advent of christianity.
Even if you do wait for marriage you can still get an STD or have an unwanted pregnancy. Who said that once you get married your partner will true to you? Who gaurenteed that your partner will be clean of STDs as well? Who ever said that when you get married, you automatically want children?
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:56 pm
Yi Min There has always been STDs, there has always been illegitment children, there has always been younger teens exploring sex and sexuality.
The real change? We have more ways of communicating things such as this accross the country. Through TV, phones, newspapers and internet we are able to learn what is going on in the world around us a lot easier.
Another Change? Medical know how! Sure, it may seem that STDs are a new thing of the 20th and 21st century, but they are not! They've always been around without names. We just found ways to identify STDs, instead of sitting back and watching people die of "unknown" sicknesses.
If you honestly believe that all of this is new, you need a serious reality check. Young teens were having sex in Roman civilization ALL OF THE TIME. People have been having children out side of the marriage way before the advent of christianity.
Even if you do wait for marriage you can still get an STD or have an unwanted pregnancy. Who said that once you get married your partner will true to you? Who gaurenteed that your partner will be clean of STDs as well? Who ever said that when you get married, you automatically want children? You just covered what I was going to say, and then some. You're my new hero for the day. heart
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:41 pm
Just a comment...
I've been in a serious relationship for three years, and right now, I'm 17. I am planning on marrying this person.
However, we haven't ever had sex. We don't think we're ready yet. My partner is 19.
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:04 am
...Yeah. I'm not even 16 yet and having sex with my boyfriend of six months, so I probably qualify for everything you say.
And you know what? I don't care. I did research. I am mature about it. I did go to the gynocologist, go on birth controls, we use a condom. I did send him to get tested for STD's, seeing as his ex was a real slut. I did take a long time to think about it, whether I was ready or not, whether I would regret it later or not, whether I even wanted to stay a virgin to the time I was 24 - and I came to the conclusion that no, I don't want to save myself for marriage. And no, I wouldn't regret it, and yes, I'm ready.
Just because you say it's improper, just because those are you beliefs, doesn't mean I have to go along with that. I have my own set of morals, I have my own set of opinions, I have my own sense of right and wrong. And to me, probably a lot of things that you do (like pushing your beliefs on other people, for example) seem wrong. So I don't really care what you feel about me and my way of life. So long as it's alright with me, morally, why should I care?
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:58 pm
I agree, it's not cool to push your own opinions/morals on someone else smile
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:16 pm
jibberish Yi Min There has always been STDs, there has always been illegitment children, there has always been younger teens exploring sex and sexuality.
The real change? We have more ways of communicating things such as this accross the country. Through TV, phones, newspapers and internet we are able to learn what is going on in the world around us a lot easier.
Another Change? Medical know how! Sure, it may seem that STDs are a new thing of the 20th and 21st century, but they are not! They've always been around without names. We just found ways to identify STDs, instead of sitting back and watching people die of "unknown" sicknesses.
If you honestly believe that all of this is new, you need a serious reality check. Young teens were having sex in Roman civilization ALL OF THE TIME. People have been having children out side of the marriage way before the advent of christianity.
Even if you do wait for marriage you can still get an STD or have an unwanted pregnancy. Who said that once you get married your partner will true to you? Who gaurenteed that your partner will be clean of STDs as well? Who ever said that when you get married, you automatically want children? You just covered what I was going to say, and then some. You're my new hero for the day. heart Imma hero!
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