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 Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:48 am
Kaira Tsukiyama Ten year olds getting blowjobs.
Thirteen year olds losing their virginity.
FIVE year olds getting their first kiss.
WHAT THE HECK?!
Something is seriously wrong with today's society. I blame it on the media and our government's lack of involvment with the people. The media portrays things in such a scandalous way that kids get dragged right into the middle of it!
Here's another thing I hate. Supposedly after about five months of dating, sex is a definate yes. Uhh...since when? What happened to the days when you waited until marriage for s**t like that? Back then, STD's were a lot less common and people weren't having to pay all this child support s**t for kids they don't even want.
Okay, so some of you are going "well we're matuuuuuure enough to handle sex! some of us can take it!"
No you're not.
If you are under the age of twenty-three, dont even consider junk like that. If you aren't married, why do it? If you do something like that before marriage, the chances of you getting stuck with a kid or a nasty STD, neither of which you want, not to mention you just lost your virginity to someone you arent going to spend the rest of your life with.
Yet again, stupid on your part.
However, I will admit that there are some rare occassions where people know exactly what they are doing and are stable enough to have sex without the commitment of marriage.
But I sure as hell know it doesn't come to you when you're in your teens.
Discuss:
1. why our society has become so ignorant and naive.
2. reasons and arguments on why all the stuff said above is OK
3. ever had an experience like the ones above?
4. why im right 3nodding
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:13 pm
I agree that the general media is having a negative impact on children and adults of all ages, but I disagree with the whole "no-sex-before-marriage" thing. Don't get me wrong: I do understand that there are some very major health and wellness benefits in not having sex, but I understand even more that it's a very intimate choice. heart I, myself, am waiting for either marriage, or a very strong commitment. I doubt five months will give me the reassurance that this person should be allowed to see me so vulnerable...but that's just me. ^^
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:51 am
*sigh* I wish I knew the answer as to what to do to bring the human race to a level of equilibrium with itself...
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:18 am
Kaira Tsukiyama Here's another thing I hate. Supposedly after about five months of dating, sex is a definate yes. Uhh...since when? Um...five months? I've had sex with plenty of people I've never gone on "dates" with. I'll wait until I *know* the person--usually--but I don't see dating as a prerequisite to sex--and certainly not marriage, either. That's for, y'know, Christians. stare Not everyone thinks sex is wrong, hon. I lost my heterosexual virginity right before my 18th birthday, and I don't regret it. I've had a lot of sex partners, and I don't regret any of them. Though I wasn't as mature then as I am now, I think I was mature enough. It totally depends on the person, though. Some 30 year olds aren't mature enough to have sex or even be in a dating relationship. I honestly don't know where kids get the idea it's normal to have sex at 10, though. From what I recall, when I was 10 I thought some boys were cute, but sex was totally out of the question--I knew I wasn't old enough. Even kissing was a bit taboo. How does this become normal? I know they aren't showing kids on TV giving each other blowjobs! They don't even show that in porn, it's illegal! WTF?
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:23 am
Society sucks. Bush sucks. Multi media sucks. (but that's just my opinion)
I feel like the government and society itself has given up on this generation in more ways than our sex life.
Schools' funds keep shrinking, shop cashiers and owners are either checking id's and not caring if it's theirs or not or just not checking, people are stealing credit cards and people hardly try to help, my last school had sluts in it that bragged about being fingered during a movie on her first date. And she was a 6th grader!! But all America does is cry when Chris is voted off American Idol!
La Veuve Zin, what do you mean marriage before sex is "for, y'know, Christians" ? I find that offensive and Im nowhere near being Christian or Catholic or even Jewish. I find marriage before sex a moral ethic. Im not saying that Im better than you for thinking that way but I just think stereotyping like that is just degrading on your part. I wouldn't be suprised if you were pro-abortion too.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:40 am
There are numerous aspects that effect why things have become the way they are. First I'd have to say it's the USA's sort of unwritten rule that anything to do with a physical relationship is something to be discussed behind closed doors. Everyone knows everyones talking about it, they just don't know who with. Then since we've developed into a society that thumbs it's nose at conventional means, that means the bounds we'd placed upon ourselves years ago should now be broken: Sex is now something to talk about with the doors wide open! However, alot of things in the country are still a no-no on that subject.
With that said, I must compare the states to the UK, Japan and some other countries here and there; where the idea of sex and such things isn't even remotely taboo. I point you to a french show that though aired late at night is about matching classical music to the bouncing of boobs. Yes, I did type that correctly. In Japan, they have public baths, and are also very open about the subject, the human body is very "meh seen that don't really care".
I think the reason we've got troubles, and the UK and Japan not so much is that for them it's kinda "What the big deal?" were as here it has the "new and dangerous" vibe to it, and that's because we as a society are generally closed from it and want to shield our children from it as long as possible in an effort to keep them from growing up I suppose.
As for the sex before marriage, to me, it doesn't matter what age you are, with the exception that you need to be in non-advanced grade ten age, or up, just as long as you're smart enough to use protection and you don't just sleep with anyone. You shouldn't sleep with anyone just to see what it's like, cause that's just stupid. I know alot of people do it, but seriously you could probably make yerself happier then a guy could. I didn't just type that........
*cough*
Moving along. I'll take a page from my friend Eri. What she said to me when I was spazzing over the fact that I french kissed my bf when I thought it was way to early for that was: Eh, so what? You and him move at your pace. If it feels right, then do it. Just because society says it's bad doesn't mean it is.
I believe that to be true. If you're nervous about something, stop. If you're comfortable and happy and "caught up in the moment" go with it. Unless this someone is not the someone you're seeing. Then stop before you get started. I'm blabbering aren't I?
Some teens are mature, and it's usally the girl side (sorry guys, but it's true. A study was done that shows that woman tend to be 2-3 years emotionally older then men of the same age), though there are some guys who're pretty smart (yet they tend to be the gays and bi's. Isn't that intresting?), and I trust them to be able to make their own desisions. The teen years are when they learn to make mistakes and solve them on their own. Although, based on the girls that where in my HS...... it shall be a world filled with "OMG! Look at my Loui Viton bag!" if that happens, I'm moving to Scotland and living in a drafty castle with 4 ghosts.
Err, yea, so in conclusion I think that it's not just modern society that has caused the inordinate amount of far-to-young people messing around, but all of society from the past 100 years or so. It'll take a few generations to fix this, it's not something that'll get done just like that.
Side note: The youngest mother in history was 6 years old, and this was back in the 1920s. You don't believe me, look it up. It's icky.
PS-I also think the Bush administration is sending us down a hole in more then just one thing. I feel bad for the next president, and I really hope it's someone smart who doesn't just want money.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:31 pm
Now thats a rather eloquent way of putting... at least thats my opinion... but I agree with it, just dont think I could have even put it into words on my own... its nice to see someone that agrees with me and can write really well... n.n
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:47 pm
Reesa Now thats a rather eloquent way of putting... at least thats my opinion... but I agree with it, just dont think I could have even put it into words on my own... its nice to see someone that agrees with me and can write really well... n.n
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:32 am
Mineka_C. Reesa Now thats a rather eloquent way of putting... at least thats my opinion... but I agree with it, just dont think I could have even put it into words on my own... its nice to see someone that agrees with me and can write really well... n.n
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:13 am
Reesa No names were mentioned to protect the innocent...XD... but since you asked... it was you... *cries and hugs you* Oh that's so good to hear on a day of which I've been getting nothing but attacks from various people over the most inane things! I understand an arguement over specifics in anime character colouring or plot details and symbolims, but not why I'm being attacked about commenting on various wig colouring systems. Sorry, just was a bad day is all. Stupid horde killing my night elf. *smiles* I'll just be quiet.
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:17 am
They are being sent the wrong message about sex. They are told it is bad, shameful, and dirty, and guess what? That makes them want to do it more!
To provide the truth about what sex is- a natural act, not intended to be dirty in the least- explain the risks, contraceptive methods available, alternatives, and support, the young people of America CAN make a better decision about their sexual health, if they chose to have sex.
Ultimately, to stop treating sex as a taboo will help lower the amounts of people struggling with things like unwanted pregnancies, teenage pregnancies, shame, et cetera.
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:53 pm
Yeah usually the best way to get someone not to do something is just to be open and honest about it... By telling them they cant or that its wrong is just going to make them want to do it even more...
I think its human nature to buck the system... or at least for the younger generation... whee
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:47 pm
Akarin Hime They are being sent the wrong message about sex. They are told it is bad, shameful, and dirty, and guess what? That makes them want to do it more! To provide the truth about what sex is- a natural act, not intended to be dirty in the least- explain the risks, contraceptive methods available, alternatives, and support, the young people of America CAN make a better decision about their sexual health, if they chose to have sex. Ultimately, to stop treating sex as a taboo will help lower the amounts of people struggling with things like unwanted pregnancies, teenage pregnancies, shame, et cetera. I agree with you entirely 3nodding It's the same with alcohol. In my family, alcohol wasn't a big deal. They'd offer it to me, and they still do. It meant nothing to me then, so it;s not the forbidden fruit to me today. It's the same with sex. I also believe however that as long as you love and trust someone comlpetely, age shouldn't matter. If two people in their thirties have sex with regrets, how is that better than two teenagers having sex if they love each other? Then again, I am young myself and I'm sure I have much to learn.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:29 pm
I'm not American, I'm Irish and people over here don't tend to have sex too young(or so I think). Most people don't go out with people properly til they're in secondary school(around 12 years old). Before that it's more of a childish 'going out,' where the two people avoid each other cos they're shy lol.
I don't agree on the whole 'no sex before marriage' thing. I don't ever want to get married(well I can't really, cos over here we don't have gay marriage, just gay civil partnerships), but I wouldn't have sex with someone til I knew I was ready, regardless of my age.
I think you also said people shouldn't have sex til they're at least 23. I don't think age really matters. As long as you're mature enough to know the risks you take by having sex, and you and your partner are both ready to have sex, then why not just do it. I don't think you need to wait til you're a certain age.
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:23 pm
I can name the problem with kids in one word: PARENTS. They set the standard for the kids, they are the ones who don't do anything to counteract the damage done by television. The kids with the most problems are the ones with the parents who either ignore or put impossible standards on their kid.
Because my mother has not gone through menopause and my sister was four years older than me, my younger brother and I got our educations on the human body quite early. As a result, we are more open about the body and sex within our family.
Most other parents let their kid's school talk to them about that, which is not good. Even if schools were properly funded, they have to dance a very fine line, for fear of some self-righteous mom suing them for "corrupting" the values of their kid.
Second point, parents set the standard for their kids. If the parents are sexually permiscuous, then how do you expect the kid to be monogamous without sudden enlightenment?
All of this said, I don't think that sex should come after marriage. Afterall, that would make many honeymoons quite unpleasant experience if one partner didn't know what the other liked.
My conclusion is that we as a society like to pin the blame on everything but ourselves. Mind you, television is truly a bad thing for us, but it wouldn't be if people were more involved with each other and themselves. We want that miracle instant answer to all of our problems, and it's really hurting us. So, if you want to stop STDs, teenage pregnancies, and abortions, education and involvement are really the only things to do.
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