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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:24 pm
I've just heard a few people mention it and I know a little about it myself... instead of PMing them all seperately I thought it would make a good topic for discussion. What is it? What does it do? Why is it here? (of interest to me) What would happen were it to go away? Discuss, question, speak freely
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:18 pm
Veil?..I wonder if this is the same thing that people were talking about in the Unicorn Otherkin community that I recently joined off-Gaia.
Well, there are apparently many theories floating around as to what it does, but I keep hearing that it's going to dissipate soon..Real soon. Perhaps within the next decade or two.
From what I've heard, when this thing goes completely, there will be almost a mergeance of worlds..I still don't understand how that's possible. But, Magick will supposedly become more strong and Psychic phenomena more frequent and those who already have the abilities will feel theirs strengthen.
Some are suggesting that all Otherkin will take on their True Forms. Of this I am doubtful. Though, since one theory is that with the merge of the worlds, the "laws of physics" will be different and the world itself will change drastically, I could see how that theory was born.
I think there was something I read about the falling/formation of a rift of/within this veil of sorts, had something to do with a great war. Once again, that's nothing more than rumors and speculation.
So, in a nutshell..All I know are rumors and theories I've picked up from the forums and sites that I try to visit regularly. Other than that, I'd have to say that I'm pretty useless when it comes to the discussion of this topic. sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:21 pm
Gods...I can't even figure it out on: Google Wikipedia
Those are good sources...any comparasins? I keep getting a book series...
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:42 pm
Well..The only place I can think of that mentionned the Veil lately was the Unicorn community..and if I'm not mistaken, much of it was in Illianna's personal forum(which is all password protected so that only members can read, as are all of the personal forums).
But, here's pretty much what little I know:
There's a veil that surrounds this plane(I think it's this plane..it might only be this world..but you get the idea). The veil is almost like a guard, it keeps most things out, but it lets some things in. But, it also seems to impose some limitations on our reality(like how strong Magick can work and how strong psychic ability can be without much rigorous training..etc). I don't really know why it's there, but it is.
Now, from what I've heard, this veil is slowly weakening..even..dissipating..if you will. It's like there's a rift being formed in it, or at least there will be sometime soon. I've heard predictions being as close as 3 years and as distant as another 5, 6, or even another 19 years.
It is said that when the Veil falls, the world will change completely. I don't really know how, exactly, since there are so many different theories.
One of which is that there will be a massive war which will bring about the end of the world as we know it and practically cause the world to restart. With that theory, it is said that people will just end up being divided according to their natural, soul's alignment and there will be war. I've never really understood how that one would work.
One was that the world would continue, just that psychic phenomena and stuff would be WAY more common.
But, a really popular theory seems to be that Otherkin will become their True Selves..even if that somehow means either a really painful physical transformation to their Kin type. Realistically speaking(unless the laws of physics change dratically), I think it would perhaps only be the development of visible traits of their Kin type..But even that's pushing it. Though, I've heard of one theory where it's like the Kin would be reunited with their True Bodies. That would be kinda raunchy considering as Otherkin posess the SOULS of non-human entities..which would mean that said entities would have to be DEAD. In some cases, said entities would probably be in VARYING STATES OF DECAY. gonk (The stuff was capitalized for emphasis)
I spologize for repeating myself a little..but..I only have limited knowledge on this subject.. sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:38 pm
So this veil, is a... sort of.. fantasy story, a literal war between creatures and humans...
I've only ever had dreams about this stuff... I don't study magic, yet I feel it could be true...
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 12:12 am
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:26 am
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:50 pm
Dunno, it was in my yahoo photo's. I put it on my, my space photos. it shouldn't dissappear now.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:35 am
Because most things in the spirit world people as a society are not ready to see. I can name several instances where people come up with a different name, when actually, the answer was something to do with spirits.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 2:49 pm
If this said veil is disappearing... could this be like a small apocalypse? Like not a total world destruction.... Should we be scared?
Personally, I think it kinda sounds cool. *shrugs*
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:15 pm
If it is real... Then essentially shouldn't we be getting ready or preparing in some way?
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:06 pm
"The Veil"
What is "the veil"? It's a barrier, a separator between the realm of spirits and magic and that of the mundane.
Why is it there? Well, because most humans either do not wish to see or experience the fantastic or deny its existence.
Is it Vanishing?! eek Well, according to some pagan lore, the veil thins out every year around Samhain, making it an excellent time to talk to spirits and the witchiest day of the year. Even the most mundane of humans feel the power of Halloween, and this is most likely the reason.
Will it vanish permanently? I can't really say, because I honestly don't know. I also don't know whether it's a good or bad thing should it do so. It would raise awareness of things beyond explanation, but the cost in mundane sanity or just plain fear and hatred of it could be too great a cost. All I can really say is that if it's there, there must be a decent reason behind it.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:37 pm
Azana Brown Is it Vanishing?! eek Well, according to some pagan lore, the veil thins out every year around Samhain, making it an excellent time to talk to spirits and the witchiest day of the year. Even the most mundane of humans feel the power of Halloween, and this is most likely the reason. That is where I heard it from, when I was researing the pagan religion.....
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:15 pm
Oh my god ._. This sounds like exactly something my friend told me. Okay- my friend may just be insane, but he had this amazing story that he told me once. He said that about 500 years ago there was a war in another plane of existence (the plane of spirits) between two kingdoms or something and it turned into a massive war in which nearly every spirit took a side (a "world war" of the spirit world, so to speak =P) and like during this war some spirits would escape to our plane in order to live in a human body and recover before returning to the war, and to prevent this they built a massive barrier between the worlds. And he said that there were a few souls that slipped past this barrier as it was closing and these became unkillable people in the sense that the moment they die they'll possess the nearest body with full memories of both all they had done in their past body and all that their new body had done in its past. And he said that like recently some mercenary type of spirit or something (he called them "metkulls" or something like that.) were sent through a tear that was made in the barrier so retrieve those escaped souls.
Honestly- I've never done any studying of the other planes so I don't hope to understand them or their workings sweatdrop This is all stuff my friend told me. Oh- and he's able to see energy and spirits and he drew me a picture of a metkull. It looked almost like a skull-ish-thing with a little hooked thing draped from it.
Oh- and one thing I just thought... You said that the veil will disappear soon, right? xd 2012, the end of the world!!! Oh noes! whee
EDIT- ^^;; He might have said 5000. My bad. I didn't really pay attention to my friend's story much ninja It sounded like he was making crap up xd
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:37 pm
Um..... I think it has been around longer then 500 years.
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