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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:10 pm


I am, you?
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:09 pm


No, I am not. I love other animals and all, but I believe in trying to be as close as nature as one can get. Nature created me as a human, and humans are omnivores. So I am an omnivore, but I try to eat meat that has only been decently produced (free range and wild stuff).

rikuHEART
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DavidOshi
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:21 pm


rikuHEART
No, I am not. I love other animals and all, but I believe in trying to be as close as nature as one can get. Nature created me as a human, and humans are omnivores. So I am an omnivore, but I try to eat meat that has only been decently produced (free range and wild stuff).


I'm with ya on this one, creates were put on earth to be eaten by other creatures, it's a cycle! I love the taste of wild meat and i like eating other kinds of meat that is safe. I am also big on salad and garden foods! I love garden tomatoes! So i guess im not a vegetarian.
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:22 pm


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Badgerkin

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:46 am


I don't eat animals because I have seen the horrific conditions they are kept in in factory farms and I have seen video footage of slaughterhouses. To be honest, sometimes the images keep me awake at night. sad You'd be surprised at how much blood can come out of a slit throat and the cow to still be alive and struggling to escape.

I prefer to live my life causing as little harm to others as possible, so I don't anything which has a face.

Even consuming wild-caught meat, you are responsible for causing an animal a cruel and premature death, and sentencing any young the animal has to a slow death of starvation.

It's so much nicer to watch wildlife, photograph and draw it than to kill it.

Even 'Free Range' meat still comes from the slaughterhouse. Also, it would be an idea to check out the farm your 'Free Range' meat has come from - sometimes they are not as great as they claim to be. If they are proud of their standards, they won't mind showing you around.

And of course, the global environmental destruction caused by the meat industry is a pretty sound reason to stop eating the stuff.

I went veggie seven years ago, and for the past four years I've been vegan. Being a herbivore has made me feel so much healthier, and less guilty! biggrin
PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:08 pm


Badgerkin
I don't eat animals because I have seen the horrific conditions they are kept in in factory farms and I have seen video footage of slaughterhouses. To be honest, sometimes the images keep me awake at night. sad You'd be suprised at how much blood can come out of a slit throat and the cow to still be alive and struggerling to escape.

I prefer to live my life causing as little harm to others as possible, so I don't anything which has a face.

Even consumung wild-caught meat, you are responsible for causing an animal a cruel and premature death, and sentancing any young the animal has to a slow death of starvation.

It's so much nicer to watch wildlife, photograph and draw it than to kill it.

Even 'Free Range' meat still comes from the slaughterhouse. Also, it would be an idea to check out the farm your 'Free Range' meat has come from - sometimes they are not as great as they claim to be. If they are proud of their standards, they won't mind showing you around.

And of course, the global evironmental destruction caused by the meat industry is a pretty sound reason to stop eating the stuff.

I went veggie seven years ago, and for the past four years I've been vegan. Being a herbivore has made me feel so much healthier, and less guilty! biggrin
I agree with you that sometimes free-range slaughterhouses still aren't that great, but I also think that since we were born as humans, we should be like humans--omnivores. I just try to eat as humanely processed meat as possible.

rikuHEART
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DavidOshi
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:10 pm


rikuHEART
Badgerkin
I don't eat animals because I have seen the horrific conditions they are kept in in factory farms and I have seen video footage of slaughterhouses. To be honest, sometimes the images keep me awake at night. sad You'd be suprised at how much blood can come out of a slit throat and the cow to still be alive and struggerling to escape.

I prefer to live my life causing as little harm to others as possible, so I don't anything which has a face.

Even consumung wild-caught meat, you are responsible for causing an animal a cruel and premature death, and sentancing any young the animal has to a slow death of starvation.

It's so much nicer to watch wildlife, photograph and draw it than to kill it.

Even 'Free Range' meat still comes from the slaughterhouse. Also, it would be an idea to check out the farm your 'Free Range' meat has come from - sometimes they are not as great as they claim to be. If they are proud of their standards, they won't mind showing you around.

And of course, the global evironmental destruction caused by the meat industry is a pretty sound reason to stop eating the stuff.

I went veggie seven years ago, and for the past four years I've been vegan. Being a herbivore has made me feel so much healthier, and less guilty! biggrin
I agree with you that sometimes free-range slaughterhouses still aren't that great, but I also think that since we were born as humans, we should be like humans--omnivores. I just try to eat as humanely processed meat as possible.

True, slaughterhouses aren't good at all due to how they treat the animals and the conditions, but eating all veggies makes you *healthier*? Hmm I'm not sure I agree with that. A human-being needs proteins in their body only found in meat and yes you can eat peanut butter for protein. Essential vitamins are also in meat, in which you can only get them from meat or certain meats! Our creator put all animals here for a purpose, inlcuding us. If you don't believe in one supreme god and go the scientific way let me give you my opinion. Evolutionizing into the creatures we are and GOD creating us is the same thing, just told two separate ways. I f you dont think so then thats fine, it's my opinion.
PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:33 pm


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Badgerkin

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Badgerkin

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:48 pm


Here's some interesting environmental statistics:

(from http://www.justeatveggies.com/reasons.htm#environ)


The Environmental Reasons for Going Veggie

Water and Soil damage
260 million acres of U.S. forest have been cleared to create cropland to produce our meat centered diet. To produce a single hamburger patty, it takes enough fossil fuel to drive a small car 25 miles and enough water for 17 showers. The production of one pound of beef requires 2,500 gallons of water. It takes less water to produce a year's worth of food for a pure vegetarian than to produce one month's food for a meat-eater.

Factory farms damage the environment as well as the animals they hold captive for profit. They use large quantities of fossil fuels and fresh water, and return pollutants to the earth in many forms.Earth

In a part of Colorado, one factory farm alone which produces 350,000 pigs a year, uses almost two million gallons of water every day; most of it used to wash manure off the concrete floors. The waste is then dispersed over a limited area of land, but the soil cannot assimilate such large quantities. The result is contaminated surface and ground water from uncontrolled runoff. Livestock production is the largest polluter of water in the US, topping all other industries that produce toxic wastes.

85% (over 5 billion tons) of annual American topsoil loss is directly associated with raising livestock. One third of original U.S. cropland has been permanently removed from production due to excessive soil erosion. 26 billion tons of topsoil is lost annually on agricultural land worldwide. One acre of trees is spared each year by every individual who switches to a purely vegetarian diet.

Millions of acres of tropical and domestic forests and wetlands have been leveled and drained to create pastures and croplands to feed the animals butchered for fast food hamburgers. This denies habitats to wildlife and recreation to humans and leads to major droughts. Irrigation of these pastures and croplands depletes precious drinking water supplies. Water running off these lands robs irreplaceable topsoil, turning millions of acres of lush cropland into desert. This turnoff, along with waste products from factory farming and slaughterhouse operations, contribute more pollution than all other human activities combined.

Rainforests

Throughout the world, forests are being destroyed to support the meat-eating habits of the "developed" nations. Between 1960 and 1985, nearly 40 percent of all Central American rain forests were destroyed to create pasture for beef cattle. These rain forests are the primary source of oxygen for the entire planet; the very survival of the Earth is linked to their survival.

The rain forests also provide ingredients for many medicines used to treat and cure human illnesses, and these resources have yet to be explored for their full potential. Approximately one thousand species go extinct every year due to destruction of tropical rainforests and related habitats.

Atmosphere
Two-thirds of global carbon dioxide emissions are created by the burning of fossil fuels. 200 gallons of fossil fuel are burned to produce the beef currently eaten by the average American family of four in one year. Burning 200 gallons of fossil fuel releases two tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:57 am


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DavidOshi
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DavidOshi
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:04 am


And one more thing! When i state that God put everything here, everything isn't here just for humans. It's a continuous cylce called the food chain, big fish eat the little fish and so on. There are herbs and animals here for humans but humans take things too far, breaking the cycle. Everything we need to survive is in nature. I believe we are here to live and experience but society has taken that for granted with fashion and bullshit so I do agree with you that we aren't the only ones that should be taken care of, many animals are vital to this earth as well and need to be protected!
PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 3:40 pm


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rikuHEART
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DavidOshi
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 5:42 pm


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:07 pm


I would like it if you guys saw this- http://www.bizarro.com/videos/mov/VeganVideoWeb.mov Hope it works for you.

It pretty much explains the things that I would be writing out right now..

If it doesn't show for you then I'll explain it anyway. But I'll be optimistic in that it works.

Psycho_Katie


rikuHEART
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 2:08 pm


Psycho_Katie
I would like it if you guys saw this- http://www.bizarro.com/videos/mov/VeganVideoWeb.mov Hope it works for you.

It pretty much explains the things that I would be writing out right now..

If it doesn't show for you then I'll explain it anyway. But I'll be optimistic in that it works.
Eh...It's not working for me...
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