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Shokai

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:40 pm


I wanted to ask, is learning Chinese (Mandarin) hard? Especially if one is teaching themselves. At my school there is a Chinese class but I cant sign up for it anymore because it is too late and I take Japanese and next year I may take Arabic. I know alot of basic Chinese characters (Thanks to kanji) I have no tough time SOMETIMES reading basic sentences like "I am not this" or "I am not that". So I was thinking maybe I can teach myself Chinese, and also in the neighboring state (NY) there is a Chinatown so I can probably try and practice my Chinese..but although I will feel really awkward because the last time I went there, I felt like a foreing tourist stressed

So what do you think?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:39 pm


I wouldn't reccomend going into Chinatown and praticing there. It's very easy to offend people. sweatdrop I don't think self teaching is effective when learning a language, it's better to find a tutor to help you because it's difficult to learn and I think learning would be easier when you have someone that instructs you with the sounds.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:04 pm


It's difficult for me to learn Chinese. I know only a few words. I can't read them. Sometimes, I try and listen to my mother when she speaks to Ciu-Gung and Pau Pau. I can make out a sentence or two, but that's about it.

English is my best language, I can't speak anymore than that.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:32 pm


You can easily master speaking Chinese, I dont recommend going into ChinaTown, you have to keep in mind, Chinese have different accent, it is not REAL mandrian.

Writting..err...good luck....^.^ razz eek xp

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Shokai

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:00 pm


butterred
You can easily master speaking Chinese, I dont recommend going into ChinaTown, you have to keep in mind, Chinese have different accent, it is not REAL mandrian.

Writting..err...good luck....^.^ razz eek xp
I can write pretty well, since I can write in Japanese, so I sort of have a big advantage at the writing part. So even my handwriting in Chinese is pretty good ^_^
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:01 pm


Darkaznstargoddess
I wouldn't reccomend going into Chinatown and praticing there. It's very easy to offend people. sweatdrop I don't think self teaching is effective when learning a language, it's better to find a tutor to help you because it's difficult to learn and I think learning would be easier when you have someone that instructs you with the sounds.
Pff...tell that to my stupid Japanese teacher..that fat bum..he cant even teach..hes not even Japanese. (sorry for getting out of topic)

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Shokai

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:02 pm


And what do you mean by not real Mandarin? and how would it offend people? (sorry for sounding ignorant) *Sigh* I guess I will never learn Chinese crying
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:40 pm


^^;
Well to me, when westerners attempt to speak chinese to me it sounds like they're making fun of it (As much as their good intentions seem to be)
I know many elderly Chinese that take offense when Chinese is mispronouced or the grammar is poor.<<; It would just make things very akward.

My aunt works at a company full of Vietnamese people and she attempted to speak Vietnamese with them. In the end, they told my uncle(he's a manager) to tell her not to speak Vietnamese again because it was unbareable to hear. That's an belief many people carry,
"If you can speak it correctly then don't try." sweatdrop

I should point out not every single chinese person in Chinatown speaks Mandarin other dialects are spoken too such as Cantonese.

But Chinese isn't something you just learn overnight, it takes years and years to become fluent. confused You're still in high school I pressume?
*looked at year of birth*
Try taking Chinese courses in College instead or try taking classes at a local community college if you want to try that badly. Hitting the streets right away won't really help you pick up much.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:00 pm


for me it was hard to teach my self, i didn't get the tones and the most people at the china town in seattle speak cantonese (i wanted to learn mandarin...)

so i am taking classes at my school right now. and i picked it right up.
so i recommend taking a class...
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:10 pm


Learning Chinese is harder than it sounds Shokai. In all respects Chinese is much harder than Japanese despite Japenese having three writing systems. Unlike Japanese Chinese has absolutely no written alphabet as such-the romanized pinyin you see in most beginner Chinese textbook is useless if you really want to speak proper Chinese.

Sure it is easy to speak relatively simple Chinese expressions that we've all heard white people say, but actually trying to conduct a normal conversation in Chinese is an entirely different story. The grammar, syntax, pronunciation and sentence structure of Chinese are all far more complex than English. Even for a native speaker like myself, it is extremely difficult to translate an English sentence into a Chinese one, and vice versa, without that sentence totally loosing all meaning.

If you are really keen on learning Chinese, you definitely need to undergo a three or four year course on it. If it is too late to start learning Chinese at high school then you can easily apply for a course in beginner's Chinese at college. In three or four years you can be brought up to the standard of spoken Chinese that a nontrained native speaker like myself has.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:17 pm


i also suggest taking classes...or borrow some tapes from the library...but it is very difficult to teach yourself...
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:36 am


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i also suggest taking classes...or borrow some tapes from the library...but it is very difficult to teach yourself...
yes thats true if you try and read pinyin it might come out wrong and you think that it right when its a big difference-embarassing basically

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 6:15 pm


I learn chinese by myself and from school, but I learn way more by watching chinese shows and stuff because I enjoy watching it while learning instead of just plain learning. 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:16 am


Go ahead and study language yourself if you want, just don't count on becoming fluent. wink

If you're determined to teach yourself Chinese, there's programs you can sign up for online that set up penpal relations between yourself and a native speaker of the language you wish to study. The idea is (in your case) that they'll want to learn English, you'll want to learn Chinese, so the two of you can send each other written practice in the form of friendly letters.

Try googling "teach yourself language" or something similar.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:56 pm


I'm Chinese and there's some stuff I still don't understand........ sad ...it takes forever to learn well
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