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DracoJesi
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:21 pm


As I head off to the LGBT Rally.... busy week
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:54 pm


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As I head off to the LGBT Rally.... busy week

Here is hoping it is productive and safe!

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 1:08 am


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As I head off to the LGBT Rally.... busy week

Here is hoping it is productive and safe!


The first year or two we had an officer there to protect us.... and we'd get stares, looks, fingers and the occassional "read the Bible1" but that's diminished over the years. Frankly I think we're quite imposing, with our sub-woofers, bands and known political activists who know how to handle themselves.

We didn't have as many groups this year because being on a Thursday with colder whether than usual..yeah, but those that were there are there until we don't need to do it anymore.

We didn't have a whole lot of support early on either even though we didn't have any trouble . Now we've had people who went to the rally be kicked out of some of the surrounding business, for, either going or for talking about LGBT issues amongst themselves at their table at some other point in time.

But a couple years back someone went into, Baileys I think it was and said something derogatory along the lines of "wouldn't it be great if we could kick them out" or "they shouldn't be allowed to do that/have rights" And the barkeep refused to serve him them him to make a point.

That kind of support isn't some you expect to see here, or at least you never did. Things have changed allot since I was in high-school. There were no Gay-Straight alliances or anything. That's way we didn't have as many groups there this year, because we had a huge showing of student groups the last two years but it was on a Saturday I think it was.

So its just amazing, the change I've seen. You know we aren't so naive as to think we'll get the politicians here to take note but mostly a state level thing, not county. No ultimately it's for those who don't think anyones cares about what their going through. To show them, yes people care and we got your bacl, so let's fight that good fight. The suicide rate, there's excuse for it. We as a society have no excuse, and saying "well they did it not me"... really, your going point fingers at the person to couldn't bear to live in your community instead of making it better?

And in the congregation (This event was started by the Church I go to) I've seen where people of gone through the process of coming out and there still here because of the community there.

I didn't hold a sign this year because I was on camera duty. I have so many pictures to go through... but my sign has been.... well, I'll show you:

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It's not a sign you can easily see from afar, it draws people in and begs questions. It's rather old and beaten now though it might be time to retire it and make a new sign.

Also the United Church of Christ backs us and the "Alliance for Diversity" was actually started by people in our church so that organization was there.
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:46 am


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llynnyia
DracoJesi
As I head off to the LGBT Rally.... busy week

Here is hoping it is productive and safe!


The first year or two we had an officer there to protect us.... and we'd get stares, looks, fingers and the occassional "read the Bible1" but that's diminished over the years. Frankly I think we're quite imposing, with our sub-woofers, bands and known political activists who know how to handle themselves.

We didn't have as many groups this year because being on a Thursday with colder whether than usual..yeah, but those that were there are there until we don't need to do it anymore.

We didn't have a whole lot of support early on either even though we didn't have any trouble . Now we've had people who went to the rally be kicked out of some of the surrounding business, for, either going or for talking about LGBT issues amongst themselves at their table at some other point in time.

But a couple years back someone went into, Baileys I think it was and said something derogatory along the lines of "wouldn't it be great if we could kick them out" or "they shouldn't be allowed to do that/have rights" And the barkeep refused to serve him them him to make a point.

That kind of support isn't some you expect to see here, or at least you never did. Things have changed allot since I was in high-school. There were no Gay-Straight alliances or anything. That's way we didn't have as many groups there this year, because we had a huge showing of student groups the last two years but it was on a Saturday I think it was.

So its just amazing, the change I've seen. You know we aren't so naive as to think we'll get the politicians here to take note but mostly a state level thing, not county. No ultimately it's for those who don't think anyones cares about what their going through. To show them, yes people care and we got your bacl, so let's fight that good fight. The suicide rate, there's excuse for it. We as a society have no excuse, and saying "well they did it not me"... really, your going point fingers at the person to couldn't bear to live in your community instead of making it better?

And in the congregation (This event was started by the Church I go to) I've seen where people of gone through the process of coming out and there still here because of the community there.

I didn't hold a sign this year because I was on camera duty. I have so many pictures to go through... but my sign has been.... well, I'll show you:

User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.

It's not a sign you can easily see from afar, it draws people in and begs questions. It's rather old and beaten now though it might be time to retire it and make a new sign.

Also the United Church of Christ backs us and the "Alliance for Diversity" was actually started by people in our church so that organization was there.



I am glad it went so well , please share some pictures.

Some days my faith in the goodness of humanity are renewed when I see people hand in hand with others supporting them, just because it is the right thing to do.

My favorite book that changes minds is Mercedes Lackey 'Magic's pawn' I made my dad read it after he said a snarky comment about gays and masculinity , afterwards he handed it back and said he 'gets it now, its about love.' I looked at him and said 'you just got that?' he sheepishly said 'ya but he still thought it is icky but no one is forcing people to become gay so he could live with it and keep his mouth shut.' The next week he invited my little covens black dog to stay and have dinner with our family and appologised. I was so proud of my dad that day.

My little 4 person coven was proud to be part of the first gay straight alliance in Eldorado county. Matter of fact our Black Dog was the first 'out' guy in my hs, poor guy got kicked off the wrestling team, he was the star of, when he came out.


Oh I will, probably though drop-box or something. I have like 340 pictures or so and that's already having removed some near duplicates whose difference only some with a high attention to detail such as myself would notice. xp. I do consider angle, cropping and such while I take the picture but a big part of my philosophy is also take a shitload of pics and your bound to get something good.

It's good he's seeing past the mere sex act and into the actual dynamics of the relationships. People dwell so much on how people are having sex instead of how they have a healthy relationship... and that's what threatens marriage, not the former.

Black Dog, a flamen of Hekate? wink

They were in wrestling attire and they were worried about people thinking they were gay in association with him... because you know the wrestling stereotype just saying...

If your a guy on the wrestling team some might spread rumors you are gay
If your a gal on the softball team some might spread rumors that your a lesbian.

I know/knew a softball player and see really was, but she was the only one as far as I knew, and she also played on a national level. The game was her life. She had a subtle, very subtle masculine bit to her personality, that's probably one reason I liked her so much. So yeah she had a huge interest in certain things that were considered masculine and that's probably why see enjoyed softball so much. for everyone else on the team though it was just a recreational sport of the season.

She wasn't open though, not even with herself and it didn't matter how close you were or what you you had talked about before she just didn't want to talk about it. The rumors really got at her because it was something she thought,at the time that she could just choose not to live that way and everything would be fine.

That never worked.

Well I was aware of it and I really liked her and I knew she had been in a relationship with a guy before. I wasn't sure if they really clicked or if she was trying to make that connection. So I go and talk to her friend from another school (on the non-local softball) team whom would either was with her or would would no if it were the wrong tree so to speak. I told her that I didn't want to step on anyones toes, that I was interested but if they were together I wouldn't pursue anything, and that the only reason I asked was because I know it's a difficult subject for her and she's already under allot of pressure about it. Well, that was a bad idea.... apparently her friend wasn't dealing with it as well as I though, got defensive and even angry (not at me particularly but she was a mess), and said "why would you think that?" "what makes me come off that way" and so forth.

Now I don't know that they were ever together but it was pretty clear this wasn't a shallow rigger, There was allot of internal conflict there... and I really think they were looking back. I think there were reasons that they were friends that they kind of kept from themselves, that it never really hit critical mass.

Anyway I looked her up a few years ago... she still isn't out to her family or the world at large but I found where she had been active in the LGBT community. That made my day, because she was so miserable. She hid it well from others but I knew. .

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 11:21 pm


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Oh I will, probably though drop-box or something. I have like 340 pictures or so and that's already having removed some near duplicates whose difference only some with a high attention to detail such as myself would notice. xp. I do consider angle, cropping and such while I take the picture but a big part of my philosophy is also take a shitload of pics and your bound to get something good.

It's good he's seeing past the mere sex act and into the actual dynamics of the relationships. People dwell so much on how people are having sex instead of how they have a healthy relationship... and that's what threatens marriage, not the former.

Black Dog, a flamen of Hekate? wink

They were in wrestling attire and they were worried about people thinking they were gay in association with him... because you know the wrestling stereotype just saying...

If your a guy on the wrestling team some might spread rumors you are gay
If your a gal on the softball team some might spread rumors that your a lesbian.

I know/knew a softball player and see really was, but she was the only one as far as I knew, and she also played on a national level. The game was her life. She had a subtle, very subtle masculine bit to her personality, that's probably one reason I liked her so much. So yeah she had a huge interest in certain things that were considered masculine and that's probably why see enjoyed softball so much. for everyone else on the team though it was just a recreational sport of the season.

She wasn't open though, not even with herself and it didn't matter how close you were or what you you had talked about before she just didn't want to talk about it. The rumors really got at her because it was something she thought,at the time that she could just choose not to live that way and everything would be fine.

That never worked.

Well I was aware of it and I really liked her and I knew she had been in a relationship with a guy before. I wasn't sure if they really clicked or if she was trying to make that connection. So I go and talk to her friend from another school (on the non-local softball) team whom would either was with her or would would no if it were the wrong tree so to speak. I told her that I didn't want to step on anyones toes, that I was interested but if they were together I wouldn't pursue anything, and that the only reason I asked was because I know it's a difficult subject for her and she's already under allot of pressure about it. Well, that was a bad idea.... apparently her friend wasn't dealing with it as well as I though, got defensive and even angry (not at me particularly but she was a mess), and said "why would you think that?" "what makes me come off that way" and so forth.

Now I don't know that they were ever together but it was pretty clear this wasn't a shallow rigger, There was allot of internal conflict there... and I really think they were looking back. I think there were reasons that they were friends that they kind of kept from themselves, that it never really hit critical mass.

Anyway I looked her up a few years ago... she still isn't out to her family or the world at large but I found where she had been active in the LGBT community. That made my day, because she was so miserable. She hid it well from others but I knew. .


My gay-dar never worked well either, not once or twice, Three times but to be fair the last two were bai who later decided they prefer men. Its actually how I met our Black Dog was by hitting on him in class. redface

Black Dog as I know the definition is guardian of Hecate temple in the non literal sense, guardian of a coven of witches. To physically protected during spell work or against those who would harm us just because we were witches.

He one day literally step into that position by stepping into a punch for me. My little coven was kind to him after he came out so when he saw me outnumbered behind the dugout, he did what came naturally to him. To get home the path between the dugout and the fence was a lot shorter, so I never thought about it especially when it was raining. For being such a scary moment in my life it was actually one of those magical ones that reaffirm the unseen. He took the punch and when he looked up with the rain and the lightning I saw he was our Black Dog in that moment. He scared the asshats off and walked me home, I told him what I saw and he wasn't scared or surprised so I invited him to come just watch the next coven meeting (not spellwork just meeting). The rest just fell into place.
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:02 am


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Oh I will, probably though drop-box or something. I have like 340 pictures or so and that's already having removed some near duplicates whose difference only some with a high attention to detail such as myself would notice. xp. I do consider angle, cropping and such while I take the picture but a big part of my philosophy is also take a shitload of pics and your bound to get something good.

It's good he's seeing past the mere sex act and into the actual dynamics of the relationships. People dwell so much on how people are having sex instead of how they have a healthy relationship... and that's what threatens marriage, not the former.

Black Dog, a flamen of Hekate? wink

They were in wrestling attire and they were worried about people thinking they were gay in association with him... because you know the wrestling stereotype just saying...

If your a guy on the wrestling team some might spread rumors you are gay
If your a gal on the softball team some might spread rumors that your a lesbian.

I know/knew a softball player and see really was, but she was the only one as far as I knew, and she also played on a national level. The game was her life. She had a subtle, very subtle masculine bit to her personality, that's probably one reason I liked her so much. So yeah she had a huge interest in certain things that were considered masculine and that's probably why see enjoyed softball so much. for everyone else on the team though it was just a recreational sport of the season.

She wasn't open though, not even with herself and it didn't matter how close you were or what you you had talked about before she just didn't want to talk about it. The rumors really got at her because it was something she thought,at the time that she could just choose not to live that way and everything would be fine.

That never worked.

Well I was aware of it and I really liked her and I knew she had been in a relationship with a guy before. I wasn't sure if they really clicked or if she was trying to make that connection. So I go and talk to her friend from another school (on the non-local softball) team whom would either was with her or would would no if it were the wrong tree so to speak. I told her that I didn't want to step on anyones toes, that I was interested but if they were together I wouldn't pursue anything, and that the only reason I asked was because I know it's a difficult subject for her and she's already under allot of pressure about it. Well, that was a bad idea.... apparently her friend wasn't dealing with it as well as I though, got defensive and even angry (not at me particularly but she was a mess), and said "why would you think that?" "what makes me come off that way" and so forth.

Now I don't know that they were ever together but it was pretty clear this wasn't a shallow rigger, There was allot of internal conflict there... and I really think they were looking back. I think there were reasons that they were friends that they kind of kept from themselves, that it never really hit critical mass.

Anyway I looked her up a few years ago... she still isn't out to her family or the world at large but I found where she had been active in the LGBT community. That made my day, because she was so miserable. She hid it well from others but I knew. .


My gay-dar never worked well either, not once or twice, Three times but to be fair the last two were bai who later decided they prefer men. Its actually how I met our Black Dog was by hitting on him in class. redface

Black Dog as I know the definition is guardian of Hecate temple in the non literal sense, guardian of a coven of witches. To physically protected during spell work or against those who would harm us just because we were witches.

He one day literally step into that position by stepping into a punch for me. My little coven was kind to him after he came out so when he saw me outnumbered behind the dugout, he did what came naturally to him. To get home the path between the dugout and the fence was a lot shorter, so I never thought about it especially when it was raining. For being such a scary moment in my life it was actually one of those magical ones that reaffirm the unseen. He took the punch and when he looked up with the rain and the lightning I saw he was our Black Dog in that moment. He scared the asshats off and walked me home, I told him what I saw and he wasn't scared or surprised so I invited him to come just watch the next coven meeting (not spellwork just meeting). The rest just fell into place.


Oh it worked alright, that was my problem. Also I like women who are in touch or expressive with their masculine side, not necessarily strongly leaning that way but balanced in that regard. Not that she was the most balanced person mind you but, well apparently I like the complicated ones. That's not to say I don't like women who are strongly feminine but I don't know that they are as compatible for a long-term partnership.

I bet he can do some interesting crafting. Flamen's of Hekate, or those called her dogs were normally women. I bet theres allot to be learned from him. In allot of traditions the guardian is called the watchman or watcher. Obviously not to be confused with the watchers, but they guard and let things in all the same hence the name. Oh course he's often called the greenman, guardian of the witchwood as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUzZV3q_KNQ

We don't really have someone dedicated to that role right now because well we haven't had any trouble. We have a pretty secure spot... well, I take that back we do. The man who let's us use is land... he's usually home... he's honorable and would protect us.

Sometimes the summoner will take that role in instances where there might be trouble. The summoner should be able to handle such a situation, and it's important I think for his training. Of course there have been many a priestess who have had to take up arms to protect her circle. It's not as common these days but that kind of character is still important. (As is more diplomatic charm >.< ). It's also important though, obviously for a summoner to have allot of experience so a long term dual-position wouldn't work.

Being a participatory religion ( and serving is participating), we try not to have one unless we need one because we don't want to "rob" anyone of experience unless there is a safety concern.

heart Thats how it goes, Those who rise to important positions in the craft don't rise to positions so much as they rise up to situations and transcend their times. It's that commitment and celebration to others, and the sacrifices one makes to build them up that constitutes the wholeness of character needed for the intimacy of the Sabbat.

Sounds like good judgment to me.

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:35 am


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Oh it worked alright, that was my problem. Also I like women who are in touch or expressive with their masculine side, not necessarily strongly leaning that way but balanced in that regard. Not that she was the most balanced person mind you but, well apparently I like the complicated ones. That's not to say I don't like women who are strongly feminine but I don't know that they are as compatible for a long-term partnership.

I bet he can do some interesting crafting. Flamen's of Hekate, or those called her dogs were normally women. I bet theres allot to be learned from him. In allot of traditions the guardian is called the watchman or watcher. Obviously not to be confused with the watchers, but they guard and let things in all the same hence the name. Oh course he's often called the greenman, guardian of the witchwood as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUzZV3q_KNQ

We don't really have someone dedicated to that role right now because well we haven't had any trouble. We have a pretty secure spot... well, I take that back we do. The man who let's us use is land... he's usually home... he's honorable and would protect us.

Sometimes the summoner will take that role in instances where there might be trouble. The summoner should be able to handle such a situation, and it's important I think for his training. Of course there have been many a priestess who have had to take up arms to protect her circle. It's not as common these days but that kind of character is still important. (As is more diplomatic charm >.< ). It's also important though, obviously for a summoner to have allot of experience so a long term dual-position wouldn't work.

Being a participatory religion ( and serving is participating), we try not to have one unless we need one because we don't want to "rob" anyone of experience unless there is a safety concern.

heart Thats how it goes, Those who rise to important positions in the craft don't rise to positions so much as they rise up to situations and transcend their times. It's that commitment and celebration to others, and the sacrifices one makes to build them up that constitutes the wholeness of character needed for the intimacy of the Sabbat.

Sounds like good judgment to me.


crying Sadly he is all but a null. Cannot sense in anyway we tried everything we could think of for years! Nada blind. But From my experiences and other peoples stories all good BDs are, else how can you fully concentrate on guarding your coven while being distracted with what is going on in the circle. Energy moved through him and worked on him okay but he never could tell, also basically curse proof. Stuff that tosses us witches around, he would just look at me and ask what happened. Tradeoffs and balance. rofl

He absolutely got into his role though. First to arrive last to leave, bought himself a claymore even had us all bless it in an allegiance ritual he looked up. (after I vetted it and did some changes, pah internet)

If you ever need a BD like we did, I do not doubt you would find one.
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:20 am


llynnyia
DracoJesi
As I head off to the LGBT Rally.... busy week

Here is hoping it is productive and safe!


I promised pics:

https://www.dropbox.com/photos/album/pEDJ6hVjlG37R2u

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:55 am


DracoJesi
llynnyia
DracoJesi
As I head off to the LGBT Rally.... busy week

Here is hoping it is productive and safe!


I promised pics:

https://www.dropbox.com/photos/album/pEDJ6hVjlG37R2u


ohhhh good pics!
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