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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:45 pm
[Spoiler Alert!] There's too much info being spilled from the current story arc around people who wait for the English dub. Vent yourselves here, where there's a spoiler alert to save you from angry, disenchanted anime-watchers. If you're not up-to-date, don't keep reading. This is a spoiler den and it's entirely on your head if we ruin it for you.
Ye be warned!
Update! A [semi-official] list of characters we care about and what condition they're in is posted here. You're welcome to toss up your opinions and corrections you think need added. Others can debate or support you. Any change with three supporters gets added in. (Note: the OP counts as a supporter.)
Update! The last episode of the anime has been aired in Japan and is available on the internet in Japanese with and without English subtitles. Those whom exclusively watch the anime, it's recommended that you switch to the manga upon watching the final episode as official announcements state the anime will not continue until the manga's storyline has developed further, and may, in fact, never recontinue.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:07 pm
Okay so recap of the last chapter: Yama-jii's angreh! Oh and Kenny did a bad thing.
Anyone feel like this is all gearing up for omega Ichigo hero worship?
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:11 pm
If he ever gets out of that cage, yes.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:25 pm
I love the irony of Overkill getting annihilated like that. He died the way he lived.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:27 pm
also randomly, all three of us are dapper. You can't go wrong with dapper.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:04 pm
Gamebrain25 If he ever gets out of that cage, yes. Oh yeah, the "cage." *Cough cough.*Ensue structural deficiency bullshit.*Hack wheeze.* sworday I love the irony of Overkill getting annihilated like that. He died the way he lived. Lol oh holy s**t yes! sworday also randomly, all three of us are dapper. You can't go wrong with dapper. That's...creepy...in an awesome and terrifying way. We are the dapper trio! So, letsee, Kenny got knocked out, at least, Byakuya's likely dead, based on the very ominous and final way everyone's got their panties in a bunch. Renji and Rukia are out cold, Ichigo's trapped, Kisuke's dealing with some random weird psycho s**t over in Huecy. Shunsui is half-blind, and Shinji seems to be rarin' to go. What else is there?
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:20 pm
Toshiro and Rangiku are fine. Soi Fon and Omaeda seem fine. Anyone else?
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:00 pm
Yama-jii - Dead (no Bankai) Choujirou - Dead (no bankai) Soifon - Fine (no bankai, though) Marechiyo - Fine and fat Rose - ??? (I think he lost his bankai?) Izuru - Unknown, presumed in critical condition or dead Retsu - Presumed dead Isane - Alive Shinji - Fine (has bankai?) Momo - Fine Byakuya - Alive: critical condition (no bankai) Renji - out cold (still has a bankai) Sajin - Fine (no bankai) Tetsuzaemon - Aww, hell, did anyone even see him? Shunsui - Half-blind (Still Has a Bankai) Nanao - Fine Kensei - Lol I have no clue, I think he had his bankai stolen and his a** handed to him Shuuhei - Fine, and a bit shell-shocked, if I do say so myself Toushirou - Fine (no bankai) Rangiku - Fine Kenny - Knocked out on his a** Yachiru - Alive Ikkaku - I don't remember Yumichika - I don't remember Mayuri - Fine Nemu - Fine Juushirou - Alive Rukia - knocked out on her a**
Ichigo - Alive: Zanpakuto Broken. In Karakura town with Isshin Kurosaki Kisuke - In Huecy with mystery threat Orihime - In Huecy with mystery threat Uryuu - In Huecy with mystery threat Yasutora - In Huecy with mystery threat
Nel - In Huecy with mystery threat (baby form) Grimmjow - No effin' clue but I'm betting he's the mystery threat Tia - Trapped like a little b***h
Love - Sittin' on his a** in the living world? Lisa - Sittin' on her a** in the living world? Mashiro - Sittin' on her a** in the living world? Hiyori - Sittin' on her a** in the living world? Hachigen - Sittin' on his a** in the living world?
I REALLY wanna see some inner hollow vizard badassery in action.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:22 am
So I'm more than certain beardy's a shinigami. The undertaker getup and age sorta nails it in for me. I mean, who in their right mind would believe a Quincy could live that long?
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:57 am
Alannaa Yama-jii - Pissed (has bankai, we assume; it's rather hard to see around his massive shikai) Choujirou - Dead (no bankai) Soifon - Fine (no bankai, though) Marechiyo - Fine and fat Rose - ??? (I think he lost his bankai?) Izuru - Unknown, presumed knocked out in critical condition Retsu - Has anyone seen her? Isane - ^^^ Shinji - Fine (has bankai?) Momo - Fine Byakuya - Dead (no bankai) Renji - out cold (still has a bankai) Sajin - Fine (no bankai) Tetsuzaemon - Aww, hell, did anyone even see him? Shunsui - Half-blind (didn't he lose his bankai?) Nanao - Fine? Kensei - Lol I have no clue, I think he had his bankai stolen and his a** handed to him Shuuhei - Fine, and a bit shell-shocked, if I do say so myself Toushirou - Fine (no bankai) Rangiku - Fine Kenny - Knocked out on his a** Yachiru - No clue, though it would be DAMN nice if some actual development went into this character Ikkaku - I don't remember Yumichika - I don't remember Mayuri - Fine (I believe he still has bankai) Nemu - Fine? Juushirou - I don't remember anymore XD Rukia - knocked out on her a** Ichigo - Trapped in Dangai (still has bankai) Kisuke - In Huecy with mystery threat and horseshit quincy (still has bankai?) Orihime - In Huecy with mystery threat and horseshit quincy Uryuu - In Huecy with mystery threat and horseshit quincy Yasutora - In Huecy with mystery threat and horseshit quincy Nel - In Huecy with mystery threat and horseshit quincy (baby form) Grimmjow - No effin' clue but I'm betting he's the mystery threat Tia - Trapped like a little b***h Love - Sittin' on his a** in the living world? Lisa - Sittin' on her a** in the living world? Mashiro - Sittin' on her a** in the living world? Hiyori - Sittin' on her a** in the living world? Hachigen - Sittin' on his a** in the living world? I REALLY wanna see some inner hollow vizard badassery in action. Izuru Is dead. He was the first character to die i the war. . w. >Chapter 494 Page 12< He had half of his body blown off. Also said his signature vanished on page 19 of the same chapter. Other than Choujirou of course who died before the war. I would say that Kisuke would still have Bankai, He hasn't shown it to anyone yet has he? (Not sure) I also think Grimjow is the mystery threat. I also hope Tia gets out and hands it to them! >:/ I kinda hope Ichigo gets his a** handed to him on a silver platter, Im kinda tired of him managing to get out of these situations so easily "/
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:01 pm
Alannaa So I'm more than certain beardy's a shinigami. The undertaker getup and age sorta nails it in for me. I mean, who in their right mind would believe a Quincy could live that long? It didn't show the sword anywhere on his outfit, at any time during the manga. I don't think it looks much like a normal Zanpakuto either. I quote Bleach Wikia here. Link to Page
Bleach Wikia: Juhabach Spirit Weapon:Reishi Sword: Using his Quincy Cross, Juhaback is able to concentrate spirit energy and particles in order to transform it into a weapon. However, unlike most other Quincy, his particular weapon manifests in the form of an ornate Dadao.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:20 pm
Quote: Izuru Is dead. He was the first character to die i the war. . w. >Chapter 494 Page 12< He had half of his body blown off. Also said his signature vanished on page 19 of the same chapter. Other than Choujirou of course who died before the war. I wouldn't think that would qualify as a verification, though. Shinigami are naturally resilient, as we've seen from the excess of severed limbs and holes being blown through bodies. (By the way, I'm so jaded that Ichigo doesn't have a scar from getting stabbed. Goddammit Orihime.) And a missing signature hasn't always meant death. But Tite's always struck me as someone who gives his characters a "last hurrah" before killing them off. Izuru didn't even get to release his shikai. Quote: I would say that Kisuke would still have Bankai, He hasn't shown it to anyone yet has he? (Not sure) I don't remember him ever using it, even when he owned Aizen with seals. He strikes me as the sort whom belongs to the "epic tier" of Captain-class characters whom have never needed to use bankai. Up until a few days ago, Yama-jii featured on this list. Checked the wiki just now and nope, it's still a mystery. Quote: I also think Grimjow is the mystery threat. IKR?! It just screams with potential as a scenario. Quote: I also hope Tia gets out and hands it to them! >:/ Honestly, I've become so disenchanted with her after Aizen tossed her around like so much trash. And then immediately following she was captured by the enemy the next time we see her. Some Vasto Lorde she turned out to be. It would be really freaking great if she got the attention and prestige afforded of her rank. I mean, she outranked Ulquiorra and is the only confirmed Vasto Lorde! What the actual hell is with this "weakling" bullshit! Quote: I kinda hope Ichigo gets his a** handed to him on a silver platter, Im kinda tired of him managing to get out of these situations so easily You know that won't happen. He's the main protagonist. The one little boys wanna grow up to be like. He's Tite's golden boy. -.-
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:35 pm
Quote: It didn't show the sword anywhere on his outfit, at any time during the manga. I don't think it looks much like a normal Zanpakuto either. I quote Bleach Wikia here. None of the Vizards ever carried their zanpakutou's on their person. I really wouldn't rule it out. Especially since the chapter came out two days ago and nothing about the weapon has been explained. Quote: Spirit Weapon:Reishi Sword: Using his Quincy Cross, Juhaback is able to concentrate spirit energy and particles in order to transform it into a weapon. However, unlike most other Quincy, his particular weapon manifests in the form of an ornate Dadao. It sounds to me like the wiki's jumping the gun on conclusions. Here is the page that the weapon shows. Forgive me, I'm not a genius when it comes to weaponry, but that doesn't look like a dadao to me. I also would have assumed a reishi sword would look like a normal reishi sword, like the variety Uryuu uses. Ya know, the lightsaber-esque weapons he carries? Something that forces reishi into a visible, solid state as a weapon. A "reiryoku sword" might be a different case, though.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:14 pm
Alannaa None of the Vizards ever carried their zanpakutou's on their person. I really wouldn't rule it out. Especially since the chapter came out two days ago and nothing about the weapon has been explained. Quote: Spirit Weapon:Reishi Sword: Using his Quincy Cross, Juhabach is able to concentrate spirit energy and particles in order to transform it into a weapon. However, unlike most other Quincy, his particular weapon manifests in the form of an ornate Dadao. It sounds to me like the wiki's jumping the gun on conclusions. Here is the page that the weapon shows. That is true, but the Virsoed simply didn't manifest their blades, either. Kensei keeps his blade in the Shikai form of a knife in his pocket during his time in the Visored, and Hachigen used a Kidou to hide his when not using it. Otherwise, I assumed that they had their blades somehow hidden, or were seen mostly without to avoid having to draw blades constantly. While Juhabach could use the same kidou as Hachigen, I am pretty sure Hachigen's kidou was one he made up on his own, meaning Juha wouldn't know of it. Otherwise, I still stick to my idea of him being a quincy. Alannaa Forgive me, I'm not a genius when it comes to weaponry, but that doesn't look like a dadao to me. I also would have assumed a reishi sword would look like a normal reishi sword, like the variety Uryuu uses. Ya know, the lightsaber-esque weapons he carries? Something that forces reishi into a visible, solid state as a weapon. A "reiryoku sword" might be a different case, though. The weapon, at least in my opinion as a sword-aficionado, his blade is a Dadao. As a variety of the Dao, simply being longer, it shows the single cutting edge, similar handle and guard, and other characteristics. The Dadao is simply a two handed version of the Dao. In the case of the weapon used by Juhabach, it is simply straight and sharpened to a custom point. In other words, it is a vastly customized Dadao blade, much like other swords of the series. There is also the point of Uryu being able to make the solid construct bow, upon reaching a certain level of power. I think the King is FAR beyond that, which would allow the solid sword use. If you read the Wiki article on Spirit Weapons used by Quincy, there are multiple forms allowed to the spirit weapon they form, other than a simple bow. These all appear to be of solid construct, not just a simple whirling hell-weapon. Note I say appear.
Anyways, could it be that Juhabach uses another Quincy technique, that has yet to be seen or explained, that lets him live so long? It could explain why the Quincy are SO powerful this time around. Maybe the medallions have something to do with it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:54 pm
YummyBiscuits Alannaa None of the Vizards ever carried their zanpakutou's on their person. I really wouldn't rule it out. Especially since the chapter came out two days ago and nothing about the weapon has been explained. Quote: Spirit Weapon:Reishi Sword: Using his Quincy Cross, Juhabach is able to concentrate spirit energy and particles in order to transform it into a weapon. However, unlike most other Quincy, his particular weapon manifests in the form of an ornate Dadao. It sounds to me like the wiki's jumping the gun on conclusions. Here is the page that the weapon shows. That is true, but the Virsoed simply didn't manifest their blades, either. Kensei keeps his blade in the Shikai form of a knife in his pocket during his time in the Visored, and Hachigen used a Kidou to hide his when not using it. Otherwise, I assumed that they had their blades somehow hidden, or were seen mostly without to avoid having to draw blades constantly. While Juhabach could use the same kidou as Hachigen, I am pretty sure Hachigen's kidou was one he made up on his own, meaning Juha wouldn't know of it. Otherwise, I still stick to my idea of him being a quincy. Alannaa Forgive me, I'm not a genius when it comes to weaponry, but that doesn't look like a dadao to me. I also would have assumed a reishi sword would look like a normal reishi sword, like the variety Uryuu uses. Ya know, the lightsaber-esque weapons he carries? Something that forces reishi into a visible, solid state as a weapon. A "reiryoku sword" might be a different case, though. The weapon, at least in my opinion as a sword-aficionado, his blade is a Dadao. As a variety of the Dao, simply being longer, it shows the single cutting edge, similar handle and guard, and other characteristics. The Dadao is simply a two handed version of the Dao. In the case of the weapon used by Juhabach, it is simply straight and sharpened to a custom point. In other words, it is a vastly customized Dadao blade, much like other swords of the series. There is also the point of Uryu being able to make the solid construct bow, upon reaching a certain level of power. I think the King is FAR beyond that, which would allow the solid sword use. If you read the Wiki article on Spirit Weapons used by Quincy, there are multiple forms allowed to the spirit weapon they form, other than a simple bow. These all appear to be of solid construct, not just a simple whirling hell-weapon. Note I say appear.
Anyways, could it be that Juhabach uses another Quincy technique, that has yet to be seen or explained, that lets him live so long? It could explain why the Quincy are SO powerful this time around. Maybe the medallions have something to do with it.HAAAACK, forgot about this thread for a few days. It's plausible, it really is. I still don't think that's a dadao(I know quite a bit about weaponry, man, and it doesn't really meet the standard for me). He just generally strikes me as a shinigami, which would add a greater layer of intrigue. But I'm pretty sure no normal quincy could manage that lifespan so well, so, indeed there could be a vastly unnatural condition allowing it. Or he could be some sort of "ancestor" for bount? They were immortal, maybe they were secretly fashioned after him? A new species would be interesting. I dunno, but I'm keen to keep the upgrades quincy have been given out of the RP until we understand them well. >_>
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