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gigacannon
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:57 pm


This is a thread for posting examples of evolution to refer to when in debate.

To get the ball rolling, here is an example of where the theory of evolution explains how living things have their current forms.

There have been found caves in which organisms survive despite being completely cut off from the surface. There are spiders and centipedes that have no vision, and have no pigmentation. God could have created these organisms, but it is easy to see how organisms that had been trapped in there could have mutated. Pigmentation provides no advantage in a dark environment; albino animals would need fewer nutrients, and so would find life easier than pigmented animals. Thus; they would find it easier to successfully breed.

The reason why we acknowledge that this is most likely what has happened is that we quite simply don't observe deities creating new organisms using magic. One can test the theory of evolution by creating a dark ecosystem, introducing surface dwelling animals and observing as the population seems to become more adapted to dwelling in the dark. Albinos are rare, but it's only a matter of time before they are seen.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:38 am


i think the fact that we live longer lives and rule the world proves that man has evolved. scientific advacing is a form of evolution for us humans.

MieShue


DarklingGlory

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:45 am


One good example is to cite all the species that have become extinct, if they were truly part of gods great plan why were they allowed to die out?
A creationist might say its the fault of man, and in most of the cases they'd be right but there are still quite a few species that have died out "naturally"
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:58 am


The actual number of species killed of, either directly or indirectly, by man is tiny when compared to the numbers that have been killed off by other factors.

Even if we wiped out every species currently alive we would still be way behind nature.

Redem
Captain


DarklingGlory

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:30 am


redem
The actual number of species killed of, either directly or indirectly, by man is tiny when compared to the numbers that have been killed off by other factors.

Even if we wiped out every species currently alive we would still be way behind nature.


Lol, its not a competition you know...
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:51 pm


Unless creationists actually witness one species turning into another, they will not be converted to Evolutionism. And even if they did, they'd call 'God's Will!', and say it was a sign from God.

Industrial Revolution, beforehand, in England, primarily white winged moths were prevalent, but after the buildings started getting covered in soot, the white ones were killed off more and more, allowing for grey winged moths to reproduce and hide from predators.

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Song~of~Madness

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:37 pm


There is evidence that certain species of birds evolved from the velociraptor, which we have gathered from studying their fossils. Ironically, these same fossils are the ones that creationists seem to make a fuss about. I wonder why....

Another example is the long extinct Cladoselache shark, which had a lot of the same characteristics as the tiny spined pygmy shark. It is believed that this is a result of it's predatory ancestor.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:36 pm


evolution is most likelly the way it occured

Hellblader


Mechanism
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:42 pm


Hellblader
evolution is most likelly the way it occured

So... uh, what are you trying to say?
That evolution is the way that evolution occured?

Anyway, I've got an example, today.
"Super rats" which are immune to poisons are thriving, as chemical poisons are being used on rat population. This is, of course, exactly the same process as bacteria which become immune to anti-bacterial medicine, 'cept it happens a little slower, 'cause rats breed a little slower than bacteria.
People may say that this is different, because it is not in nature; but then again, what is selecting the succeeding generations of the rats? Survival; more specifically, survival against an environmental pressure (rat poison in their habitat).
KYRGYZSTAN rats
SCOTLAND rats
BRITISH rats
TOKYO rats
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:05 pm


http://mbe.oupjournals.org/cgi/reprint/15/8/931.pdf
The evolution of yeast cells to more efficiently consume glucose in a glucose-limited environment. The mutations are multiple tandem duplications of one or two of similar genes involved in the consummation of glucose. Novel genetic material exists in the evolved creatures as a result, and the novel genes have the potential to mutate further, possibly in other environments where other potential food sources (such as complex carbohydrates) are more plentiful. The original genes could remain as-are, so the yeast cells could still consume glucose as well. This reveals an important mechanism in the formation of novel gene-regulated attributes. I don't know much about the human genome, but suppose it is possible that genes regulating new attributes in our past resulted from mutated duplications.

This is a good example to point to when a creationist says "mutations do not add information."

http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/S/Speciation.html
A bit on speciation.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html
Observed speciation events; contrary to creationist claims, new species are observed.

http://www.santarosa.edu/lifesciences/ensatina.htm
A ring species.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1123973.stm
Another ring species.

Malkuth

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