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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:26 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8786641/Dress-witches-in-pink-and-avoid-white-paper-to-prevent-racism-in-nuseries-expert-says.html
So apparently giving children in nursery schools white paper could lead to them growing up with "negative and discriminatory views about skin colour".
Wait, what?
Has this woman gone insane? Is there really any evidence at all for this? I'm all for teaching children equality, but is the paper they draw on really the problem? Or am I just a bigot complaining about political correctness gone mad?
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:48 pm
Yeah, that's just a bit too much political correctness.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:40 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:49 am
Or maybe racism has become such an integral part of our lives we don't even notice it? You would really be surprised at how many racists don't think they're racist at all. Believe it or not, white paper is a relatively new thing. Paper and parchment in the past were generally a more yellow-brownish color. The real question is: If we have the ability to modify the tint of paper, why would we make it a color (white) that when written on emphasizes the background over the text rather than one (black) that when written on would emphasize the text over the background?
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:49 am
maui boy no ka oi Or maybe racism has become such an integral part of our lives we don't even notice it? You would really be surprised at how many racists don't think they're racist at all. Believe it or not, white paper is a relatively new thing. Paper and parchment in the past were generally a more yellow-brownish color. The real question is: If we have the ability to modify the tint of paper, why would we make it a color (white) that when written on emphasizes the background over the text rather than one (black) that when written on would emphasize the text over the background? I think it's because it's easier to make colors--all colors--stand out on white paper. Try drawing on black paper sometime. Also, I don't really buy that white paper emphasizes the background over the text--or the other way around--but maybe I'm just missing something. Also, also, white paper seems divorced from skin color to me--seeing as most people are nowhere near being white despite being referred to as such. :/
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:43 am
haunting heaven maui boy no ka oi Or maybe racism has become such an integral part of our lives we don't even notice it? You would really be surprised at how many racists don't think they're racist at all. Believe it or not, white paper is a relatively new thing. Paper and parchment in the past were generally a more yellow-brownish color. The real question is: If we have the ability to modify the tint of paper, why would we make it a color (white) that when written on emphasizes the background over the text rather than one (black) that when written on would emphasize the text over the background? I think it's because it's easier to make colors--all colors--stand out on white paper. Try drawing on black paper sometime. Also, I don't really buy that white paper emphasizes the background over the text--or the other way around--but maybe I'm just missing something. Also, also, white paper seems divorced from skin color to me--seeing as most people are nowhere near being white despite being referred to as such. :/ Most blacks are far from being black but people still call them black. Anyway think about this: Would it be easier to try to read, from a distance, black text on white paper or white text on black paper?
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:17 am
maui boy no ka oi Most blacks are far from being black but people still call them black. Anyway think about this: Would it be easier to try to read, from a distance, black text on white paper or white text on black paper? Yeah. I realize. Which is why I think it would be equally stupid to make black paper and claim it's somehow empowering or something. I have no idea. I would say black on white, but I'm not sure about that. I also don't think it's relevant since most people aren't reading text on paper at a distance. Also, paper isn't just used for text.
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:22 pm
maui boy no ka oi haunting heaven maui boy no ka oi Or maybe racism has become such an integral part of our lives we don't even notice it? You would really be surprised at how many racists don't think they're racist at all. Believe it or not, white paper is a relatively new thing. Paper and parchment in the past were generally a more yellow-brownish color. The real question is: If we have the ability to modify the tint of paper, why would we make it a color (white) that when written on emphasizes the background over the text rather than one (black) that when written on would emphasize the text over the background? I think it's because it's easier to make colors--all colors--stand out on white paper. Try drawing on black paper sometime. Also, I don't really buy that white paper emphasizes the background over the text--or the other way around--but maybe I'm just missing something. Also, also, white paper seems divorced from skin color to me--seeing as most people are nowhere near being white despite being referred to as such. :/ Most blacks are far from being black but people still call them black. Anyway think about this: Would it be easier to try to read, from a distance, black text on white paper or white text on black paper?
White text on black paper. But we weren't a world made for negatives. It's easier to see color on a white background.
"Artists are allowed to be a bit different." - Bob Ross
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:06 pm
Only the darker ones. Assuming you're using something that actually coats the paper (like paint), they kind of balance each other out. Admittedly we will probably have to forgo the use of highlighters and colored pencils, but I'm sure if we're as smart as we say we are we would figure out other alternatives. In the end it really just comes down to personal preference. There is that which we grew up knowing to be right and there is that which is different. To take a strong stance on either side of the subject is inevitably biased.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:04 pm
There was actually a controversy around the song Baa Baa Black Sheep. They wanted it changed to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep as Black Sheep are racist.
Also, Humpty Dumpty is apparently bad as it can cause suicide in children.
No joke.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:37 pm
Racheal Shanks There was actually a controversy around the song Baa Baa Black Sheep. They wanted it changed to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep as Black Sheep are racist. Also, Humpty Dumpty is apparently bad as it can cause suicide in children. No joke. It's about sheep. Sheep aren't racist. Black sheep are generally not valued
as much as white sheep only because you can dye white wool many colours
and it has more uses because of that, than black wool. If anything, rainbow
sheep is racist against real sheep. Are your children going to grow up
thinking that there are ACTUALLY rainbow sheep? I would not subject my
children to such falsehoods.
Humpty Dumpty can be debated whether about Suicide or a quite violent
murder which involves pushing someone off said "wall" and some have even
speculated the cutting up of the body parts afterwards and scattering them to
hide the crime.
...And Jack and Jill is really about a double murder of two children, Ring
Around the Rosie was about the Bubonic Plague.
Nursery Rhymes ARE dark. Let's leave them that way.
P.S: I know it sounded like I was ranting at you, but I wasn't, it's just how I rant at the world in general, lol. Don't take it personally.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:51 pm
WhiteWingtip Racheal Shanks There was actually a controversy around the song Baa Baa Black Sheep. They wanted it changed to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep as Black Sheep are racist. Also, Humpty Dumpty is apparently bad as it can cause suicide in children. No joke. It's about sheep. Sheep aren't racist. Black sheep are generally not valued
as much as white sheep only because you can dye white wool many colours
and it has more uses because of that, than black wool. If anything, rainbow
sheep is racist against real sheep. Are your children going to grow up
thinking that there are ACTUALLY rainbow sheep? I would not subject my
children to such falsehoods.
Humpty Dumpty can be debated whether about Suicide or a quite violent
murder which involves pushing someone off said "wall" and some have even
speculated the cutting up of the body parts afterwards and scattering them to
hide the crime.
...And Jack and Jill is really about a double murder of two children, Ring
Around the Rosie was about the Bubonic Plague.
Nursery Rhymes ARE dark. Let's leave them that way.
P.S: I know it sounded like I was ranting at you, but I wasn't, it's just how I rant at the world in general, lol. Don't take it personally. I know how you feel, thats pretty much what I said. But this is the full Rainbow Sheep rhyme. Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep Have you any Jelly? No Sir No Sir it's all gone smelly. None for the master and none for the dame And none for the little boy who lives down the drain. Yeah, that makes Way more sense.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:12 pm
Racheal Shanks WhiteWingtip Racheal Shanks There was actually a controversy around the song Baa Baa Black Sheep. They wanted it changed to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep as Black Sheep are racist. Also, Humpty Dumpty is apparently bad as it can cause suicide in children. No joke. It's about sheep. Sheep aren't racist. Black sheep are generally not valued
as much as white sheep only because you can dye white wool many colours
and it has more uses because of that, than black wool. If anything, rainbow
sheep is racist against real sheep. Are your children going to grow up
thinking that there are ACTUALLY rainbow sheep? I would not subject my
children to such falsehoods.
Humpty Dumpty can be debated whether about Suicide or a quite violent
murder which involves pushing someone off said "wall" and some have even
speculated the cutting up of the body parts afterwards and scattering them to
hide the crime.
...And Jack and Jill is really about a double murder of two children, Ring
Around the Rosie was about the Bubonic Plague.
Nursery Rhymes ARE dark. Let's leave them that way.
P.S: I know it sounded like I was ranting at you, but I wasn't, it's just how I rant at the world in general, lol. Don't take it personally. I know how you feel, thats pretty much what I said. But this is the full Rainbow Sheep rhyme. Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep Have you any Jelly? No Sir No Sir it's all gone smelly. None for the master and none for the dame And none for the little boy who lives down the drain. Yeah, that makes Way more sense. ...perfect sense O-o
So they see a black sheep as racist, but the word "dame" is completely underogatory?
I will never understand political correctness.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:18 pm
WhiteWingtip Racheal Shanks WhiteWingtip Racheal Shanks There was actually a controversy around the song Baa Baa Black Sheep. They wanted it changed to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep as Black Sheep are racist. Also, Humpty Dumpty is apparently bad as it can cause suicide in children. No joke. It's about sheep. Sheep aren't racist. Black sheep are generally not valued
as much as white sheep only because you can dye white wool many colours
and it has more uses because of that, than black wool. If anything, rainbow
sheep is racist against real sheep. Are your children going to grow up
thinking that there are ACTUALLY rainbow sheep? I would not subject my
children to such falsehoods.
Humpty Dumpty can be debated whether about Suicide or a quite violent
murder which involves pushing someone off said "wall" and some have even
speculated the cutting up of the body parts afterwards and scattering them to
hide the crime.
...And Jack and Jill is really about a double murder of two children, Ring
Around the Rosie was about the Bubonic Plague.
Nursery Rhymes ARE dark. Let's leave them that way.
P.S: I know it sounded like I was ranting at you, but I wasn't, it's just how I rant at the world in general, lol. Don't take it personally. I know how you feel, thats pretty much what I said. But this is the full Rainbow Sheep rhyme. Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep Have you any Jelly? No Sir No Sir it's all gone smelly. None for the master and none for the dame And none for the little boy who lives down the drain. Yeah, that makes Way more sense. ...perfect sense O-o
So they see a black sheep as racist, but the word "dame" is completely underogatory?
I will never understand political correctness. You and me both, my friend, you and me both. We were also told [I worked in nursery, it was political correctness gone mad at one point] not to say 'no' to a child, even when they bite or hurt other kids. You also can't make them say sorry, humiliate them by making them sit out of games if they have done wrong or, and by the gods do I wish I was joking, tell them off at all as it can possibly hurt there feelings.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:19 pm
^The little boy lives down the lane, not the drain haha. A lane is just a road.
*Ahem* Back to the topic. I think calling white paper racist is just pathetic. Its easier to make any medium show up on white paper better than black except white colors. Maui made the point of coming up with new media to color with, but that seems like a lot of work to fix something that isn't actually a problem.
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