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Honestly, I have no interest in your conspiracy stuff. I was raised in it, so I'm familiar with the concepts and the kind of mental gymnastics it takes to believe such things. So, you know. Have fun. Whatever floats your boat and all that.

What did stick out to me, though, was your comment that the prophecies of Revelation are coming true, and the reason this caught my eye is due to the fact that this weird interpretation of Revelation in which there is an Antichrist and a OWG and a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem... This isn't how mainstream Christianity interprets it.

You claim that the prophecies are coming true NOW, but the prophecies made in Revelation have NOTHING to do with us here in the twenty-first century. Revelation was written sometime in the first century to first century people about first century events.

Only a small sect of Christianity believes this nonsense about an Antichrist (which does not appear ANYWHERE in the book of Revelation, might I add), and this minority interpretation didn't arise until the nineteenth century. By claiming that you "respect" the prophecies of Revelation while at the same time completely disregarding them in favor of ******** Darby and Tim LaHaye is mind boggling to me because it forces you to say that hundreds of years of Christian eschatology and biblical scholars were wrong about their own holy book, and that all it takes are a couple of douche bags hyped up on fever dreams to "decode" Revelation by taking it "literally"--and by "literally," I mean "not at all."

To sum up, there are NO prophecies having to do with an Antichrist or a OWG in the Christian Bible. The fact you guys apparently think so means you haven't done your research--which means I can't take you seriously. If you can actually believe Tim LaHaye knows what he's talking about, what other bullshit are you guys falling for?

And what does this have to do with anything I said?


Yep. Anyone opposed to Christ is an antichrist. Notice the lack of a capital letter. What I object to is this weird idea that there is some sort of ultimate Antichrist--which is never mentioned. The term "antichrist" never appears in Revelation.


All these things ALWAYS HAPPEN. There has never been a time in which there haven't been earthquakes or wars or famines. Plus, Jesus was talking in a first century context--hence the reason all his followers believed he would return within their lifetime (and according to the preterists, he did, but that's another story).


None of the gospels mention an antichrist.


The moron who re-popularized Dispensationalism just when it was beginning to die out.


Obviously it's figurative. Even YOU think it's figurative. Or do you actually think Revelation LITERALLY mentions a microchip? Show me the word "microchip" in a first century text, and I'll buy into your eschatology.


Aw, look at you being all figurative and s**t. So much for your literal nonsense, huh?


Show me anything in Revelation that you actually take literally. One-hundred ******** percent literal. I sort of doubt you can. No, what you're doing is assigning your own figurative interpretation to the text and disregarding hundreds and hundreds of years of Christian eschatology and biblical scholarship. You're also disregarding the fact that Revelation was most likely written by a Jew due to the fact it utilizes typical apocalyptic language that the Hebrews often used. This apocalyptic language would have been obvious to the first century Jewish audience. It's only a bunch of ignorant Gentile (anti-Semitic) morons who don't understand the imagery being used and instead choose to impose their own bullshit into the text.

Do you want to try responding to any of my actual points instead of inadvertently proving them?

You notice the trolls recently too? lol

Clearing up a misconception about Revelation--that's it. Also, I don't think you're all "whack-jobs." I do believe some of what the Guild Captain laid out on the front page of this thing is complete and utter nonsense, but at the same time, there are certain points of what you guys believe that I don't dismiss out of hand. It's probably the wannabe-Libertarian in me.

Anyway, I'm also an atheist. That doesn't change the fact that Revelation was written for certain people about certain events. Trying to transplant its symbolism into the twenty-first century (while claiming to take the damn thing literally) is what irks me.

Oh I agree with your point here, but you came into this with an elitist attitude towards everyone in this guild and that is what irks me.

There are a lot of different people in this guild with a lot of different beliefs. What's on the front page is the captains beliefs. We're here because we're looking for the truth, not because we all believe the same things. If you have an issue with the "revelationists", take it up with them. Don't make it about everybody here.

Just like you swipe your credit card with your left hand? Pretty awkward right? You're just looking for an excuse to keep your life as worldly as possible without looking at things from a spiritual stand point. I am confident you'd be paying your tithes with your chip because it makes it far easier when money is obsolete. Do you even understand what money is? Not to mention I can't take you seriously as a believer in this faith because you still say words like Jesus, god, and lord. You're just a follower of Ba'al. You got comfortable without feeling a need to search for truth. You're not led by the spirit clearly because you're fruits show your sarcasm as well as rush to fight. Do you bear the fruits of the spirit because it doesn't seem like it if you're coming in here as you are. Oh I just read you're an atheist! lmao. So really you are just a troll.

I think you missed the part about her being an atheist, kiddo. ninja