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 Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:12 am
Hey, everyone. I absolutely love composing music. It's definitely one of my "fortes"! domokun Anyways, I also really like jazz, but I'm not sure what to put when I want improvisations and when I don't. In lieu of this topic (improvisation), do jazz players generally play what's written, or do they always do whatever they want?
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:23 pm
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you're playing in a group, you have to play what's written unless you're improvising on a solo, in which case most people don't read the written solos. is that what you're getting at?
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:55 am
They read what's written? eek
So that's why I was never good at playing Jazz... redface
On a more serious note.. =p
They usually read the scores. But from most every band I've seen live, they always smuggle a little bit extra here and there. They don't always play straight from the written scores, but never deviate too far either.
Did I make any sense? sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:46 pm
kila_chan I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you're playing in a group, you have to play what's written unless you're improvising on a solo, in which case most people don't read the written solos. is that what you're getting at?
Oh, okay, I thought that one could just put the word "improvise for bars. I didn't know I actually have to write out a solo which will be deviated on anyways!!
Naokix But from most every band I've seen live, they always smuggle a little bit extra here and there. They don't always play straight from the written scores, but never deviate too far either. Did I make any sense?
Ya, that is true. My highschool music teacher told me that jazz musicians are always stealing(or smuggling) ideas they may have heard by other performers, etc. ninja
On another note, why would it be necessary to write out a solo if it's going to be somewhat different when the performer improvises?
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:30 pm
Putting in a solo section? Well you can have it a written solo which is nice for beginners to build upon. As long as you have changes and a certain type of pregression you'll be fine.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:25 pm
I DESPISE written solos, personally. It's better when someone just puts their heart and soul into their music by playing out whatever works for them.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:00 pm
Yeah. You can have a written solo or suggested solo and allow them to decide if they are comfortable enough with the piece to try improv. More the case with more junior bands I believe. Sometimes its nice to have a written solo that you can mess with as you play if you dont know the tune so well, that way, you get a better feel for the piece.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:01 pm
Yeah, you don't have to write a solo out, they are just there for people who aren't quite ready to improvise yet. Just write "Solo" and the chord changes.
As far as playing what's written goes, it depends on the style too. On a ballad I usually add a lot to what's written, and with faster pieces I just add things like vibrato or turns/grace notes here and there.
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:59 am
If you're writing a solo you must do the following:
Improvisation solo
1. You must write chord names
2. You must write slashes (/ / / /) on every beat of the bar to show where the chord names land and to show how long the solo goes for.
Written solo
1. You must write "as written" at the beginning of the solo.
Improv/Written Solo
1. Must write chord names
2. You must write "Solo or ad lib". This states that you can either play the written solo or play improv
If you're still unsure, p.m. me and I'll hook you up with some of my arrangements that you can use as a reference.
Don't worry, you can trust me because I write arrangements and stuff for money.
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:17 pm
Changing a F# to Gb does it reguire a fifth. of Eb because my instructor was talking about resolutions to chord changes and all that stuff. Or does it depend on what key you are in. EX: Entry of the Gladiators (carnival song) uses a D# key for 7 straight eight notes and the last note is a natural D to go back to the Bb singnature. If Ive confused dont worry because I will probably know by the end my assignment is due. stressed
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:18 pm
Sheik mahatma Changing a F# to Gb does it reguire a fifth. of Eb because my instructor was talking about resolutions to chord changes and all that stuff. Or does it depend on what key you are in. EX: Entry of the Gladiators (carnival song) uses a D# key for 7 straight eight notes and the last note is a natural D to go back to the Bb singnature. If Ive confused dont worry because I will probably know by the end my assignment is due. stressed Wow, that's interesting. When's the assignment due? Sounds like you want to do an extraneous modulation. Say I want to go to C# major from C major. There are many ways to do it, but, if you approach C# by its dominant (G#), you need a B# (NOT a C natural!). Did that help at all? (I didn't know D# was a key! It'd been much easier if it was Eb, the subdominant of Bb!!)
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