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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:43 am
That many animals could fit in the ark because God made it and through God all things are possible.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:34 pm
Wrong. The devil made the Bible and God is trying to save the world with atheists.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:49 pm
zealously_incorrigible That many animals could fit in the ark because God made it and through God all things are possible. umm im not sure you know this but Noah made the ark, god just told him too and it is impossible to fit even one of every animal on the ark.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:36 pm
Not to mention the fact that according to creationists, almost every extinct species was still alive back then, and there's no way a man could collect two (or seven) of every species in the narrow Biblical time frame.
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:06 pm
gigacannon Not to mention the fact that according to creationists, almost every extinct species was still alive back then, and there's no way a man could collect two (or seven) of every species in the narrow Biblical time frame. So THAT's where all the dinosaurs went! wink
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:22 pm
Nobody knows what caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. It is believed to be a combination of many disasters. For a long time, many scientists refused to accept that a cataclysm could be the cause of the extinction of the dinosaurs. This is because that kind of phenomenalism was associated with creationism.
It's important to remember that creationism isn't impossible; 'God' may very well have created everything. What makes creationism invalid is that there is no reason to believe that that is true. It is not the fact, but the methodology which is at fault.
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:46 am
Creationism may very well be true, but there is no way young earth creationism as described in the bible can be true. It directly contradicts reality.
A few thousand years ago my a**.
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:29 am
Earth may well have been created by a deity of some form but one thing is sure, it wasn't how it was printed in the bible. Because that means that humans, and every other creature were on earth at the same time as the dinosaurs and that is increadibly unlikely, not impossible. A major planetary change may have moved or destroyed all fossils that wern't dinosaur.
And if you believe that then you'll believe anything. biggrin
By the way, I'm requesting to join the guild. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:19 am
zealously_incorrigible That many animals could fit in the ark because God made it and through God all things are possible. But, the vital thing is that the atheists out there don't believe in a God. So your whole point is redundant immediately, as well as the fact that it's pretty easy to prove that God cannot possibly be omnipotent.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:08 am
redem Creationism may very well be true, but there is no way young earth creationism as described in the bible can be true. It directly contradicts reality. A few thousand years ago my a**. No assertion about the world can ever been known to be true or false. YEC might be true, as might last-Thursdayism. It's precisely because we can't know what's going on that creationism is ludicrous, because we're unjustified in believing any explanation of how the Earth formed, even those ideas accepted by science. Science merely shows us the most likely explanation given the evidence. and yes, YEC does run quite contrary to almost every field of science.
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:21 pm
gigacannon redem Creationism may very well be true, but there is no way young earth creationism as described in the bible can be true. It directly contradicts reality. A few thousand years ago my a**. No assertion about the world can ever been known to be true or false. YEC might be true, as might last-Thursdayism. It's precisely because we can't know what's going on that creationism is ludicrous, because we're unjustified in believing any explanation of how the Earth formed, even those ideas accepted by science. Science merely shows us the most likely explanation given the evidence. and yes, YEC does run quite contrary to almost every field of science. Exactly. Occam's Razor, right? I mean, I could believe that the world is flat and the government is conspiring against us to make us believe that it's round and that the world was created two years ago by an overweight hermaphrodite in a lab, but it wouldn't make sense. Evidence suggests that evolution is true.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:55 am
gigacannon redem Creationism may very well be true, but there is no way young earth creationism as described in the bible can be true. It directly contradicts reality. A few thousand years ago my a**. No assertion about the world can ever been known to be true or false. YEC might be true, as might last-Thursdayism. It's precisely because we can't know what's going on that creationism is ludicrous, because we're unjustified in believing any explanation of how the Earth formed, even those ideas accepted by science. Science merely shows us the most likely explanation given the evidence. and yes, YEC does run quite contrary to almost every field of science. My point was that the exact sequence of events depicted in the genesis story is impossible. Genesis make no mention of God making an Old looking universe, of planting fossils, or any of the others problems with YEC. Which is why I assert that it is impossible. Even though I accept that Last Thursdayism is possible.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:05 am
We don't know that anything is impossible, per se.
It is merely that things seem extremely improbable, given what we have learnt about the world.
Yes, I might be pedantic. However, no harm can be made from trying to make completely accurate statements.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:59 am
redem My point was that the exact sequence of events depicted in the genesis story is impossible. Genesis make no mention of God making an Old looking universe, of planting fossils, or any of the others problems with YEC. Which is why I assert that it is impossible. Even though I accept that Last Thursdayism is possible. Scuse my ignorance but is last thursdayism the idea that the universe could have been created intact, including our memories of supossed events, a milisecond ago? or last thursday?
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:18 pm
Yeah. It could be that this instant is the only way anything can be, and there is no such thing as past and future. It's possible, but there's still no reason to believe either way.
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